What would a Dutton Liberal leadership mean for the Liberals and the country?

[nut]

Great..... More government cherry picking of macro economic numbers to suit the party spin, just like sycophants on big footy.

How about they address the continually declining disposable income per household in their watch?

Which specific policy has caused the decline? I’m guessing you know the answer to something you want fixed, am I right?

 

[Skeppersap]

Which specific policy has caused the decline? I’m guessing you know the answer to something you want fixed, am I right?

If you think it is just one policy resulting in it, then maybe this topic ain't for you.

 

[nut]

If you think it is just one policy resulting in it, then maybe this topic ain't for you.

Ok name the policies that you think has caused the decline….. I’m guessing you have no idea Zzz

 

[Gough]

All the Trumpies in the Liberals are going to pretend that they're very upset his mate might have killed an Australian.

 

[Saint]

Ok name the policies that you think has caused the decline….. I’m guessing you have no idea Zzz

That's the problem with the current conservative movement.

They've disconnected policy from outcome. It's vibe and only vibe which matters.

Having a plan doesn't matter.
Criticising policy doesn't matter.

The more they disconnect policy from the debate, the better chance they stand.

Any time they're asked a policy question, from the Opposition leader to the average supporter in the street (and POTUS), they look at you like you've sworn at them. They have zero idea about policy.

 

[QuietB]

How about they address the continually declining disposable income per household in their watch?

Do you really believe Dutton is going to fix that? Do you believe Dutton even cares about that?

 

[Saint]

Do you really believe Dutton is going to fix that? Do you believe Dutton even cares about that?

Last time they were in power, they had the stated position of suppressing wages to prevent inflation. Then inflation took off because of other factors while the handbrake remained on wages.

That is what caused the current problems. Only people who don't understand policy do not understand this, and it's what the conservatives rely on.

 

[Deliverance]

Definitely declining trend since 08

 

[peetoo]

That's the problem with the current conservative movement.

They've disconnected policy from outcome. It's vibe and only vibe which matters.

Having a plan doesn't matter.
Criticising policy doesn't matter.

The more they disconnect policy from the debate, the better chance they stand.

Any time they're asked a policy question, from the Opposition leader to the average supporter in the street (and POTUS), they look at you like you've sworn at them. They have zero idea about policy.

Call it a wedge and they understand it well

 

[Bunk Moreland]

That's the problem with the current conservative movement.

They've disconnected policy from outcome. It's vibe and only vibe which matters.

Having a plan doesn't matter.
Criticising policy doesn't matter.

The more they disconnect policy from the debate, the better chance they stand.

Any time they're asked a policy question, from the Opposition leader to the average supporter in the street (and POTUS), they look at you like you've sworn at them. They have zero idea about policy.

They’re in their death throes. It’s the last days of Rome.

Every piece of data tells you that their base is dying off and younger people aren’t coming across to them in sufficient numbers to replace them.

Albanese is so incredibly shithouse that he might hand them another term or two, but that will be it - hopefully the wreckage they cause is reasonably contained.

 

[peetoo]

They’re in their death throes. It’s the last days of Rome.

Every piece of data tells you that their base is dying off and younger people aren’t coming across to them in sufficient numbers to replace them.

Albanese is so incredibly shithouse that he might hand them another term or two, but that will be it - hopefully the wreckage they cause is reasonably contained.

But but the mega is telling me stridently that there’s a world wide right wing renaissance against progressive?

 

[Saint]

Definitely declining trend since 08

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Your chart just shows where inflation affected wages. The real problem is that wages are stagnating relative to profits (chart below). And profits aren't being taxed at a greater rate to build the Commonwealth. So those with wealth (shares, businesses, property) are getting wealthier and wage-earners are not.

The difference between the two major parties is that they both don't want to tax runaway profits, but one works slightly harder than the other to increase wages.

The chart below shows that profits are ~6x higher than in 2001, while wages are ~3x higher.

The coincidence in these charts is that inflation was high because there were massive profits being made. That drove inflation, but wages were suppressed to "prevent inflation".

So according to the major parties, it doesn't matter if Profits drive massive inflation, you just have to let them. But we couldn't possibly let workers get higher wages, that might lead to inflation!