Wheel of Time

[gaskin]

Finished the series earlier this week. Was a cracking finish. However, a lot of unanswered questions about what happens next. Would like a Mat follow up with him and Tuon going back to seanchan for example.

IIRC there has been some info released on that based on RJ's notes but there will be no books written about it.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

IIRC there has been some info released on that based on RJ's notes but there will be no books written about it.

Shame the estate don’t open up the world to chosen writers. Could have been interesting with plenty of stories to be found.

 

[gaskin]

Shame the estate don’t open up the world to chosen writers. Could have been interesting with plenty of stories to be found.

It was agreed upon by RJ and Harriett. Sanderson has also been asked about it numerous times in the past and he flat out refuses to entertain the notion. As much as we would all like more stories in the WoT world, it really is better off staying how it is.

 

[Andre]

Reading Egwene’s first point of view chapter in Lord of Chaos and while I’ve never liked Gawyn (except for like book 1), I honestly don’t remember him being this pathetic. Lol

Oh boy, have you got a ride ahead. Without saying anything he does, lets just say he's the character topping my 'You are an idiot' list with a fair gap to the next.

 

[Andre]

IIRC there has been some info released on that based on RJ's notes but there will be no books written about it.

Yeah, it was planned that once the main series was finished, that there were going to be another two prequel's, set between New Spring and The Eye of the World, with the second of those just before Moraine goes to The Two Rivers. The other planned one, as noted, was there was going to be a series of outrigger novels covering Mat and Tuon and the reconquest of the Seanchan continent.

 

[SM]

About halfway through book 1, enjoying it but feel like it'll be a huge trek working my way through all 14. Worth taking my time on them or just plow through?

 

[TRUMAN#1]

About halfway through book 1, enjoying it but feel like it'll be a huge trek working my way through all 14. Worth taking my time on them or just plow through?

I just picked up Book 1 - plan to read it all again.

 

[SM]

I just picked up Book 1 - plan to read it all again.

It's a lot of pages!

 

[Happy Mastenator]

There's some books in the middle of the series where you could get away with reading an online summary of them and otherwise skip.

Sorry, can't remember what book numbers they are though! Gets cracking again towards the end.

Edit: ahhhh it appears there's even a term for this. Books 7-10 are referred to as "the slog" Let's Talk About "The Slog" - Is It Real?

 

[mickelboy182]

About halfway through book 1, enjoying it but feel like it'll be a huge trek working my way through all 14. Worth taking my time on them or just plow through?

They get better, then get worse, then get better again. It is a huge task so if you're not enjoying yourself after the first few books I'd call it a day there.

 

[SM]

They get better, then get worse, then get better again. It is a huge task so if you're not enjoying yourself after the first few books I'd call it a day there.

I'm enjoying the first book, but may well be because I have vague memories from the show to help me along. I'll see how I go with book 2. Might space it out with some other books so I don't get fatigue.

 

[BEaston]

I personally wouldn't take breaks with a series like this as I'd need momentum to keep me going. If I took a break then it'd be gg.

I think it's a really good series. Has some low points and some very high points, but overall the world building/lore and writing quality (for the Jordan at least) is very good I feel. Dialogue and at times plot development are not as strong.

 

[joelsyt]

About halfway through book 1, enjoying it but feel like it'll be a huge trek working my way through all 14. Worth taking my time on them or just plow through?

I reckon take your time. I enjoy the books but I’ve never finished because I burnt myself out when book 9 came out, only the last three or so years when I could bring myself to reread and try and finish and I’m still only on book 6, despite it being my favourite.

 

[gaskin]

I burn straight through a series as I am not someone that likes to deviate onto something else and come back- especially on long series. I find I forget too much of what has happened. I would recommend just reading through them but it also depends on you and how you read.

 

[a_shot_on_ehlo]

Trailer for Season 2

 

[joelsyt]

So rumours going around that there’s a new scene,

Spoiler

teaser for the prologue of The Great Hunt

, at the end of season 1 episode 8. Not sure if true, but it might be worth having a look. That’s one of my favourite parts of the Wheel of Time Series, I really hope the rumours are true.

 

[joelsyt]

Apparently

Spoiler

Barthanes party is in season 2, it’s been awhile since I’ve read The Great Hunt, so I barely remember it, but my god this season looks expensive! They released some screenshots of the party on a Livestream earlier today. Season 1 must have some pretty well considering.

 

[gaskin]

Spoiler: Episode 3

The older woman "Anvaere" Rand speaks to is Moiraine's sister who only gets a passing mention in New Spring.

Killing Uno is going to piss people off as he is a fan favourite. I'm neither here nor there as they can put any odd character in his position.

 

[joelsyt]

Spoiler: Episode 3

The older woman "Anvaere" Rand speaks to is Moiraine's sister who only gets a passing mention in New Spring.

Killing Uno is going to piss people off as he is a fan favourite. I'm neither here nor there as they can put any odd character in his position.

Spoiler

He is a fan favourite and I like him a lot, but I am ok with the way he went out, dude went out a legend telling Lady Suroth to eff off and the horse she rode in on.

 

[joelsyt]

So apparently the sign for

Spoiler: wot show

Selene’s inn has a moon and stars on it, you can see it above her in the foregate when she’s having a drink as Rand makes his way to her, cute little Easter egg for book readers that I completely missed lol

 

[SM]

I'm enjoying the first book, but may well be because I have vague memories from the show to help me along. I'll see how I go with book 2. Might space it out with some other books so I don't get fatigue.

Lol almost two years to the day and I just finished Book 4. Been reading on and off with other series. Think with the show being cancelled I'll leave it there for the time being but may well return to it. I don't mind the books but do find them a bit of a slog at times. The pacing seems a bit all over the place with some plots, but then gets quite good in patches. It feels like he likes to meander through a story with a clear end for each book in mind, but seems to rush into the conclusion sometimes and leaves other threads to be picked up in the next book. As someone said, I think dialogue and action aren't necessarily his strong suit but the world building is quite rich almost to a point of making it hard to keep track of everything.

 

[gaskin]

Lol almost two years to the day and I just finished Book 4. Been reading on and off with other series. Think with the show being cancelled I'll leave it there for the time being but may well return to it. I don't mind the books but do find them a bit of a slog at times. The pacing seems a bit all over the place with some plots, but then gets quite good in patches. It feels like he likes to meander through a story with a clear end for each book in mind, but seems to rush into the conclusion sometimes and leaves other threads to be picked up in the next book. As someone said, I think dialogue and action aren't necessarily his strong suit but the world building is quite rich almost to a point of making it hard to keep track of everything.

Don't forget that it was originally intended to be a trilogy so the early books can feel a bit disjointed at times.

 

[SM]

Don't forget that it was originally intended to be a trilogy so the early books can feel a bit disjointed at times.

Yeah no doubt. I'm sure I'll come back to them at some point, there's good stuff.

 

[Andre]

Good to see this fanfic 're-imagining' of the Wheel of Time has died the death it so deserved. Another victim of the Showrunners wanting to tell their story rather than make the changes required to the original, to bring it to TV / movies.
Witcher, Rings of Power, The Wheel of Time the big 3, of disliking the fans of the books, that they 'aren't the intended audience' and the books are 'problematic' and need 'adapting for modern audiences', seeing fans of the books go and wondering why their shows tank.

All suffered badly from that modern Hollywood curse of 'The girl boss'. Where no man can possibly overshadow the main female cast and they are Mary Sues with minimal challenges overcome. The Witcher and The Wheel of Time especially suffered this. The main character of the Witcher, is shockingly, Geralt. He's not a side kick or prop. The Wheel of Time has a clear hierarchy of character importance - Rand, then Mat and Perrin, then Egwene, Elayne and Nynaeve. Moraine is the Gandalf character and is a second tier below those by Book 2 onwards. The books still split around 50-50, but the show stuffed it up badly. The irony being most of the female characters in the books show real growth from adversity. Two of my favourites in the books are Nynaeve, growing from the stubborn Wisdom, to an Aes Sedai worthy of respect and Siuan, who switched for me, from yet another arrogant Aes Sedai, to one of my favourite characters after she'd been Stilled, tortured and on hearing someone at the cell door, was expecting more torture or death, but stood up refusing to let them see her cowed.

Though I'd go with it's three biggest flaws, in no particular order, 1) Jordan was very good at show don't tell. Given this was now adapted to a visual medium, blurting out 'We're off to find the Dragon, the wonderful Dragon of Oz!' from the start and 'Hi, I'm Moraine, I'm Aes Sedai, which you all already know even though you're country bumpkins' immediately showed Rafe misunderstood how the story was meant to be told. 2) Introducing new characters / plotlines when you had limited episodes and could have used them on the masses of book hacked out. 3) Tying into point two, the character changes. Lan from a stoic warrior, whose twitching eyebrow was a sign of surprise, to leading a blubbering group cry over a dead Warder. Perrin with a wife, the drunken Cauthon's, Siuan and Moraine as a couple. The list was extensive.

 

[gaskin]

I didn't mind Siuan and Moiraine as a couple that much considering they were pillow friends as novices.