Where do you rate Mark Ricciuto?

[Bob Fossil]

I saw more of Hird and Voss play. My order would be;

Hird, he seemed to turn a few more games for mine, I perceived him as a little more polished and skilful.

Voss and Ricciuto, sit level with me and Buckley only slightly behind mostly because of injury for me, the others seemed to sustain their best for longer.

 

[iluvparis]

The very best of Hird & Voss was slightly better than that of Buckley & Riccuito IMO; it seemed like they could will their teams to victory themselves at times. They were both cruelled by injury though, so Buckley & Riccuito played at a very high level for longer (though didn't hit as high a peak).

I would go Hird JUST over Voss, then Riccuito then Buckley.

Imagine how many weeks Riccuito would get for the hit on Kemp these days. A Gazillion?

What year was the Kemp hit? Could argue the best bumps of the 90s and 00s were both against eagles players as the other classic for me is Earl Spalding's at Subi in 1995.

 

[Superfist]

What year was the Kemp hit? Could argue the best bumps of the 90s and 00s were both against eagles players as the other classic for me is Earl Spalding's at Subi in 1995.

Around 97. Don't know how to post videos, but you can watch it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk6jpckvuuE

Don't remember much of 95. Premiership hangover.

 

[Sekaj]

Where will Goodes rate among Hird, Voss, Buckley and Ricciuto when he retires?

 

[iluvparis]

Below them all for mine.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Where will Goodes rate among Hird, Voss, Buckley and Ricciuto when he retires?

Sits alongside them IMO.

 

[smasha]

My fav Crows player.Still is.

 

[1990crow]

I think its Hird and Ricciuto at the top, then Voss, then Buckley. Had he had played for a Vic club, would be in this order in most people eyes. McLeod derserves to be in this conversation.

 

[underthestars]

Arrived back in Oz in mid 96 after years away.
In chronological order what i've seen as the elite players - separating them ain't easy, but Carey just. As a captain, Voss. Over the 16 years, Harvey.

Carey
Harvey
Roo
Hird
Voss
Bucks
Goodes
Cousins
Judd
Ablett

 

[Coldacre]

I think Voss' reputation gets elevated because of the premierships.

and rightfully so. after all, that is why every player plays the game. Voss led his team to 3 back to back to back flags through sheer force of will. he demanded that his team-mates run through a brick wall because that's exactly what he was willing to do, every week. he was the most intimidating player going around - he had the X factor. that's why I rate Hird & Voss above Buckley & Ricciuto.

 

[Macca19]

Buckley > Voss > Hird > Riccuito

Roo I have on that half a rung below the top 3 alongside Black, Judd, Goodes, Harvey, Crawford, West, Cousins

 

[Stevie_Crow]

What year was the Kemp hit? Could argue the best bumps of the 90s and 00s were both against eagles players as the other classic for me is Earl Spalding's at Subi in 1995.

It was 1996

 

[King Elvis]

A pretty fair assessment and very similar to my thoughts, although I think of Hird more as courageous than tough. He couldn't deal out punishment like Ricciuto. Ricciuto would punish the body of the opponent and come out with the ball. Hird would come out with the ball by putting his body on the line. A fine distinction I know, but they were very different players.

I find these things difficult to compare as all 4 had qualities that any club would want.

Put it well, I think.

Hird was as brave as they come, never shirked anything - but Roo thrived on it; he wanted the physicality of the contest. If you had Hird and Roo running at you, Roo is the one you'd fear the most.


His suspension and then ****ing parvo arguably cost us a flag in 05/06.

 

[Prem87]

TBH I think Voss as a player is a tad overrated. Buckley, although doesn't have the premiership medallions is a far better player, as was Ricciuto.

Hird>Buckley>Riccuto>Voss

 

[scomac]

Footy needs more bogans,great player tough as old boots, no BS! geez i miss the 90s. Ps Roo was as good as Buckley with more silverware.

 

[headache1]

It's not an argument, just an observation. Of course they were all tough, but in my view Roo was a true hardnut.

I'd imagine if you had your head over the footy or were dropping into a hole, the last one of those 4 you'd want to run into would have been Ricciuto. I reckon more people talk short steps around Roo than the other 3.

As far as ratings go, seems you have them pretty much the same as me.

I was told basically exactly this by a bloke who was on Collingwood's list for a number of years. Shortly after arriving at the club, Buckley told him if there is one player in the league you should try and avoid being tackled or hit by, it's Mark Ricciuto.

 

[Burzum]

Hird > Ricciuto = Voss > Buckley

 

[Superfist]

TBH I think Voss as a player is a tad overrated. Buckley, although doesn't have the premiership medallions is a far better player, as was Ricciuto.

Hird>Buckley>Riccuto>Voss

Sorry but no. I don't think you can overrate Voss in his prime, as a player, and then he brought more as a captain. His coaching is diminishing his stature, which is sad.

 

[Natho]

Hird, Voss, Roo and Buckley.

 

[Bollox]

Not this shyt again.
Nothing changed.
As pure footballers...
1. Hird
2. Harvey
3. Buckley
4. Ricciuto
5. Voss

Not interested in team spirit, club size, flags won, vic bias etc...thats all crap. List is just what i saw as footballers.

 

[headache1]

Despite the two Brownlow's, I don't rate Harvey up there with the other four. Great footballer, tireless worker and a ball magnet no doubt, I just don't think he was as damaging with the ball as the others were.

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

Despite the two Brownlow's, I don't rate Harvey up there with the other four. Great footballer, tireless worker and a ball magnet no doubt, I just don't think he was as damaging with the ball as the others were.

Tend to agree, no doubt a champion of our club and the game but Harvey didn't dominate matches as often as Riccuito or Hird (he had a few blinders to be sure, but I remember Roo "resting" forward and kicking bags)

I almost place Hird in a different category to the other three as well, saw him more as a half forward than a midfielder

I rate Riccuito almost higher than the other three, reckon he was shielded from the Melbourne media being an Adelaide player

If he played for a successful Victorian club over his career, I reckon he would be well considered at least equal to Buckley

As a genuine footballer I see Hird as the best player of this group
Then Riccuito / Buckley / Voss

 

[00Stinger]

Actually none of those guys are Victorian.

And thats why I never said any of them were Victorian

 

[Monkey King]

Great player, a fair way off Hird, little way off Buckley, pretty close to Voss.

1. Hird
2. Buckley
3. Voss
4. Ricciuto

Nicely put. This is pretty much my opinion as well. Not as good as Hird or Bucks. Perhaps a tad behind between Voss and Harvey. Aside from Hird though, I reckon he's the most versatile out of that group. All champions of the game, all with a shit load of accolades.

 

[Monkey King]

Actually none of those guys are Victorian.

I think his point was that they played in Victoria. Still, you're not quite right with your claim. Micheal Voss was originally a LaTrobe valley boy; his family moved to Queensland when he was a tween.