Where does the RFC sit in the coaching merry go round

[tony_montana]

If the one we want goes elsewhere, then he isn't the one for us is he. I want a coach who wants to be here not one who just wants a job.

Just like the way bomber thompson and others all rejected us so we were left with the spud? he wanted to be here pity the top candidates didn't

 

[Tigersman]

Richmond - Lots of young talent that are showing alot. One elite player (Cousins), lots of KPPs to work with. Good draft pick this year. Chance at glory!

Port - No draft picks. Undersized unit, with no chance at KPPs, no money. Low support base.

Kangas - Average draft pick at best. No money. Low supporter base.

You dont think Richo is elite?

I dont think there will be much between our first draft pick and Norths at the of the year.

I would have thought most unbiased afl fans would have Ports list stronger than both North and Richmond. Plenty of upside in our list though and I think over all the best job on offer by far.

 

[tigerdan]

It remains to be seen whether we will publicly state who we want.

Surely we'll interview a number of candidates. Just because we think coach A is the best doesn't mean North will.

Some interesting signals coming from Sheedy at the moment. Someone said we could get an extra 5k members if we signed Buckley (I think it was). I'll wager we could get that same 5k if we signed Sheedy. Wouldn't take much 'spin' at all to drum up a huge amount of publicity.

Having said that, I have mixed feelings on Sheedy. Great coach and great record but prone to too many brain fades in the last few years. I'm sure he would see it as a great way to finish off his career though. That must be very tempting for him to tie up loose ends.

 

[Roachy8]

not really, they'll circle one name only if in fact they do move and I still think they will , lets not forget their return to form has been v WC and Melbourne

Yeah fair enuf Bo...

As you say though, assuming it is made known at some stage in the next few weeks that Malthouse will not be at Collingwood next year, then if The Pies basically want Buckley & no-one else, then one of the percieved "A" grade candidates for The Tigers, North, Port & possibly Fremantle will drop out of contention.

Will put heaps of heat on the chase for Hardwick & the others for the rest of the vacancies.

That's when I reckon it will potentialy come down to a game of chicken...

Will we hold our nerve?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

We are not 2 weeks ahead of Nth in regards to due process.We are 10 weeks ahead of.
North have Buckley,s chance of getting Buckley!

 

[Madtiger2006]

I think we'll stick with someone at the club who knows every player on the list and who knows exactly what game plan we play well. If Rawlings shows good signs this year then there's no reason why we should go for someone else. Rawlings will continue with what has worked and he'll take away parts of our game which doesn't. If we push the Saints we'll probably win a few games from now on.

 

[_RT_]

Just like the way bomber thompson and others all rejected us so we were left with the spud? he wanted to be here pity the top candidates didn't

10 years ago we were a basket case, no money, no facilities and instability at board level. Basically we couldn't offer a coach anything to entice them.

10 years on we're a club with new facilities not only at Punt Rd, but also at Craigieburn, we are able to spend money on the football dpet now to give a coach all the support they need, i.e development coaches & recruiters.

As I said last night the perception we are a joke of a club is nothing more than that and is played on by the media to sell papers and get ratings. As such I am not as concerned as you are that we will miss out on getting who we want.

 

[SolidTiger]

The Kangaroos are going to spend up to $800,000 a year for a potential new coach ( Buckley's their favourite) according to the Herald Sun today.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25647655-19742,00.html

I just hope Richmond understands our position in the merry-go round and not get into a bidding war. I am keen on either Buckley or Hardwick at the moment but I don't think their would be a $400,000 gap in thier worth. Richmond must understand that the club itself is more of an attractive place to coach then Kangaroos. We have a large supporter base, a better group of younger players than the Kangaroos, having the facilities developed so it will be comparable to the richer clubs and importantly the club is doing extrememly well off field (close to 1 million profit dispite poor season on field and economic downturn). The Kangaroos are struggling to survive. If we pay for example $450,000 a season for Buckley then the Kangaroos will have to offer at least $700,000 in order for Buckley to consider thier offer.

 

[foley4brownlow]

The Kangaroos are going to spend up to $800,000 a year for a potential new coach ( Buckley's their favourite) according to the Herald Sun today.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25647655-19742,00.html

I just hope Richmond understands our position in the merry-go round and not get into a bidding war. I am keen on either Buckley or Hardwick at the moment but I don't think their would be a $400,000 gap in thier worth. Richmond must understand that the club itself is more of an attractive place to coach then Kangaroos. We have a large supporter base, a better group of younger players than the Kangaroos, having the facilities developed so it will be comparable to the richer clubs and importantly the club is doing extrememly well off field (close to 1 million profit dispite poor season on field and economic downturn). The Kangaroos are struggling to survive. If we pay for example $450,000 a season for Buckley then the Kangaroos will have to offer at least $700,000 in order for Buckley to consider thier offer.

how can you justify spending 800k on a new untried coach. i dont think you can give that much to a new coach. i wouldnt want to give him more then 500k for the tigers job

 

[emperor]

I think we are pretty well placed. A club that is generating profits, is looking at further improvements to the football department, getting the Punt Rd re-development, Craigieburn too, with a list that would provide a prospective coach plenty to work with and a seeming stabilisation in the off-field antics of the administration.

Nothing is guaranteed though, NFI really what will eventuate but our prospects don't leave me in a huddling in the corner in fetal position in a cold sweat like in past years ... I give some weight to that

 

[TheFridge]

Richmond - Lots of young talent that are showing alot. One elite player (Cousins), lots of KPPs to work with. Good draft pick this year. Chance at glory!

Port - No draft picks. Undersized unit, with no chance at KPPs, no money. Low support base.

Kangas - Average draft pick at best. No money. Low supporter base.

As a Port supporter, I'd suggest you were somewhat one-eyed except that you nominated Cousins as you're sole elite player. I'd have Richo and even Nathan Brown right up there if you are looking at super players on the wrong side on 30, although I believe the Tiges have several very valuable players who are entering the elite phase such as Deledio and Tambling. In terms of KPP, Richmond are in much the same boat as Port and North... Some good, some not so good, some raw, but no clear elite KPFs of the future.

Back on the OP - I'd suggest Richmond shouldn't be too concerned about who North or possibly Port may chase. Port are in a very different basket wrt to geopgraphy (I can't see Buckley returning to Adelaide at all, nor could I see someone like Malthouse being keen to move should he and Collingwood part).

Equally, if Port are on the market, then I'd suggest that Chocco should be high on the list of prospectives for Richmond, so naturally Richmond wouldn't be in competition with Port for his services....

 

[Gary17]

It seems that NM, Richmond and possibly Port are locked in the classic negotiation stand-off: each club would definitely benefit by taking their time to do a full review and selection process, but each is also concerned that one of the others will blink first and jump into getting someone good quickly..which then makes each of them more likely to do exactly that!

FWIW I would think that Richmond are an attractive club to most coaches looking for a club. And as a Tigers (Glenelg) supporter here in SA, I hope it turns out well for RFC and will watch developments with great interest.

 

[Bojangles17]

As a Port supporter, I'd suggest you were somewhat one-eyed except that you nominated Cousins as you're sole elite player. I'd have Richo and even Nathan Brown right up there if you are looking at super players on the wrong side on 30, although I believe the Tiges have several very valuable players who are entering the elite phase such as Deledio and Tambling. In terms of KPP, Richmond are in much the same boat as Port and North... Some good, some not so good, some raw, but no clear elite KPFs of the future.

Back on the OP - I'd suggest Richmond shouldn't be too concerned about who North or possibly Port may chase. Port are in a very different basket wrt to geopgraphy (I can't see Buckley returning to Adelaide at all, nor could I see someone like Malthouse being keen to move should he and Collingwood part).

Equally, if Port are on the market, then I'd suggest that Chocco should be high on the list of prospectives for Richmond, so naturally Richmond wouldn't be in competition with Port for his services....

i agree to an extent , there is a great depth of young coaching aspirants which appear to be the go...my tip is that collingwood will also enter the fray which will rule buckley out of the equation, leaving Hinkley, Cameron& hardwick and others to raffle remaining gigs

 

[tigerpremiers]

we will just choose either campbell or rawlings for our next coach.i hope we dont i want us to go through the proper proccess and get the best person but my gut feeling is we will end up with one of our current assistants.

 

[IDGAF]

My gut instinct is ...(nothing more than that) ... that there is a hell of a lot more to the North Melbourne story than they are letting on about .

# - i don`t reckon Laidley jumped i reckon he was pushed , why was Brayshaw so emotional about it ?

# - the reason he was pushed is that they have already locked in thier successor ...

The word around the campfire is its Buckley ... pure rumour but its a solid one .

If you were Laidley .. how would you feel about the headlines the following day that they are going to ramp up their football dept. and could spend 800,000 grand on a head coach ? ... do you reckon they came up with that overnight ? ... of course not .

 

[Mario Speedwagon]

Few coaches are worth 800 grand, let alone unproven ones. Buckley's a greedy fool and an egotistical w***er if he goes to that train wreck for that money...a fee that will no doubt comprimise his resources. If he does that, then he's not the kind of person we want.
The real issue is how a club like North can be allowed to use subsidies they get effectively from other clubs who pay their own way (like us) to outbid them.

 

[IDGAF]

Few coaches are worth 800 grand, let alone unproven ones. Buckley's a greedy fool and an egotistical w***er if he goes to that train wreck for that money...a fee that will no doubt comprimise his resources. If he does that, then he's not the kind of person we want.
The real issue is how a club like North can be allowed to use subsidies they get effectively from other clubs who pay their own way (like us) to outbid them.

quite the conundrum

 

[Toadvine]

I think it's funny that all we (tigers) wanted was finals and when we saw we wouldn't get them we canned Wallace. Whereas North have made finals 5 out of 7 years with very little to work with list, financial and facility wise and they canned Laidley anyway or pressure him into feeling like he's done anything but acceptable. Apparently he was only allowed to use 92% of the salary cap! How could they think on field wouldn't suffer when things like that are in place?

 

[Mario Speedwagon]

quite the conundrum

Yeah I know, but it's more the principle than whether or nor we get Buckley. It's disgrace if they're allowed to throw that kind of money at one person, given their recent history. I'm sick of this club being effectively penalised because we actually have more than 15 fans.

 

[IDGAF]

Yeah I know, but it's more the principle than whether or nor we get Buckley. It's disgrace if they're allowed to throw that kind of money at one person, given their recent history. I'm sick of this club being effectively penalised because we actually have more than 15 fans.

... especially when you consider the incumbant has effectively been remunerated to the effect of a hot pie and a can of pepsi for his troubles per week .

... and then they pull this figure of 800K out of thier @rse

I`m no mathematician ... but those sums don`t add up .

 

[Mario Speedwagon]

... especially when you consider the incumbant has effectively been remunerated to the effect of a hot pie and a can of pepsi for his troubles per week .

... and then they pull this figure of 800K out of thier @rse

I`m no mathematician ... but those sums don`t add up .

What's funny is how Barrett -A Norf supporter I believe- wrote the article (so the figure's probably bollocks anyway) ,without a hint of questioning anything, yet queried whether Richmond could afford to pay 600k for a coach. Tosser.

 

[IDGAF]

What's funny is how Barrett -A Norf supporter I believe- wrote the article (so the figure's probably bollocks anyway) ,without a hint of questioning anything, yet queried whether Richmond could afford to pay 600k for a coach. Tosser.

Yes ... amazing selective journlism