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Sounds like last rites material, The Dill Gill is appealing.
GWS could have just given authorities carte blanche to cut off the surplus bad-press at the pass, 3 weeks extra (the full 6 requested) at the start of the season , so he may miss 1 two or three this season, the first games of next season don't r.e.a.l.l.y count unless their stake on the finals is perilous
 
How he could think that bumping an umpire or getting into a position to make contact is beyond me. The whole season on the line and he did that. The Giants would be filthy. Appeal and hope for 2.

My favourite part about the whole thing is that it all started because Toby went out of his way to stick his forearm in a blokes throat whilst he had the free kick

So dumb
 

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Late breaking news, Toby Greene under investigation for being responsible for covid world wide, he will be burnt at the stake as soon as investigation is over.
 
He wasn't a Hawks player then but yes dog act.
human act
in the wide zero's paradox spectrum of not-normal acts, i put it to you we would be a duller species of automatons if we all act like kade simpson this is NOT to disparage KS

I stress, I am not referring to Dermie Barry Hall Toby Greene , but the freedom advantaged by the middle-bloc will be warped behaviour as tiny subset on the extremity , that is why one needs to support TG, I would support GWS conspiring with the tribunal to give TG the diesel Williams.s suspension + 3 games (to confirm that was plus three games on fop of the Williams suspension) make him captain , pay him full salary through the suspended games , support his game-day performance , let TG deal with the ramifications, cos don't think this is not a headache and nuisance for Leon Cameron and the backoffice support

my stategy: control TG by NOT controlling him , but revel in the mastery , everyone bought into Brereton in retirement iteration , square that paradox . You cant, its a paradox. This is Rene Girard
 
...or, deadshits could face the consequences of their actions. Being ridiculously immature is not having a personality.

Elbowing blokes in the throat is bad for the game. Disrespect for umpires is bad for the game. Greene is bad for the game. He can shape up or keep getting rubbed out.
 
Toby fits the talented but wrathful psych model...

1) A bit thick
2) Shit dad
3) Working class to povo economics
4) Natural talent

Simmering resentment with the world and the hand it dealt him, probs **** all intervention and meaningful role modelling along the way.

He doesn't just need to beat "you" in the contest, he has to "make you pay" overs in other ways. Will not reform, will probably be everyone's favourite commentator after retirement
 
...or, deadshits could face the consequences of their actions. Being ridiculously immature is not having a personality.

Elbowing blokes in the throat is bad for the game. Disrespect for umpires is bad for the game. Greene is bad for the game. He can shape up or keep getting rubbed out.
I said give him <Greg Williams umpire iteration>PLUS EXTRA three weeks , his career doomed to be constrained 25% of pontial games , so Williams gets nine games , give TG a dozen , GWS erred by attempting to game tribunal on this matter

I maintain that those who deem loose-cannon cannot comprehend the kernel where his mercurial game resonates from , and the genius of cyrilR may not manifest with warped behaviour, its a spectrum and TG is an outlier
 
Yes blackie. You’re wise beyond your years.

Perhaps people can comprehend where his skill comes from, but don’t want that in the game.

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Yes blackie. You’re wise beyond your years.

Perhaps people can comprehend where his skill comes from, but don’t want that in the game.
This is getting weird, you think Greene's footy ability comes from his shit behaviour? "Glad I elbowed that bloke in the face and bumped an ump, my next kick for goal is sure to score!" :oops:

Footy ability is footy ability. Personality is personality. Being a shit bloke is being a shit bloke. There's no magic here, he's a shit bloke.
 

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Grade 9 level history? You think too little of other people.
This is Australia, a land in which being called 'an intellectual' is intended as a calculated and grievous insult. It is not just confined to these boards. To all in tents and porpoises, in schools at all levels, history is is exactly that, history.
 
This is Australia, a land in which being called 'an intellectual' is intended as a calculated and grievous insult. It is not just confined to these boards. To all in tents and porpoises, in schools at all levels, history is is exactly that, history.
save the dolphins 🐬 or #SeaWorld killer whales , I prefer orcas
 
This is getting weird, you think Greene's footy ability comes from his sh*t behaviour? "Glad I elbowed that bloke in the face and bumped an ump, my next kick for goal is sure to score!" :oops:

Footy ability is footy ability. Personality is personality. Being a sh*t bloke is being a sh*t bloke. There's no magic here, he's a sh*t bloke.
no , false dichotomy , it has some relationship but not axiomatic and the syllogism =\= flawed on close inspection

a tell: does TG ever 'e.n.g.a.g.e" visual eye-contact* , refer to interviewer/journalists by their professional name(standing) and not call them "mate"
- even when the PR/communications department at GWS would have had him for weeks of communications comportment t.r.a.i.n.i.n.g

Chris Gayle x Mel McL - yet TG is infinitely worse

Make him captain , give him Greg Williams 9 weeks PLUS three weeks on top = a twelve week suspension

what do Gary Ablett SNR get for Kristian Bardsley's nose or Tony Lockett for Peter Craven's teeth/mandible , receive as their suspensions(/pleonasm)
*am I conflating Barry Hall St Kilda ressies with Ablett ?

PS nb. I would not call TG a $h!t bloke I would say he joins the people including the entire panoply of human behaviour, and one may acknowledge this full spectrum and see no reason to make him one of your "friends".

*the eye-contact/gaze thing , I won't give u a pop-psychology assessment from a lay-person , altho' I half did
 
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Surely he has done enough now to go straight to suspension? Guy has more “let offs” than John Gotti ffs.

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PS nb. I would not call TG a $h!t bloke I would say he joins the people including the entire panoply of human behaviour, and one may acknowledge this full spectrum and see no reason to make him one of your "friends".

my point or thesis is , without TG's outlier , or outlaw and pariah behaviour we do not have norms defined and folks are relegated to a.u.t.o.m.a.t.o.n.s

your freedom will allow for renegade acts

you freedom will provide leeway for poor speech or thought

these are good tenets , thus TG must be an avatar for such freedom whilst slapping him with a twelve week ban for transgressing the umpire's physical autonomy
 
probably just below top tier thugs like Jordan Lewis, Luke Hodge and any Hawforn player from the 80's
 

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