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Traineeship?Because it really is just that easy to not only get a job, but do it while studying full time.
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Traineeship?Because it really is just that easy to not only get a job, but do it while studying full time.
Traineeship?
So If I got a bachelor degree in garden soils and I couldn't get a job as an environmentalist - whose fault is it?Neoliberal tripe
WTF is this?So If I got a bachelor degree in garden soils and I couldn't get a job as an environmentalist - whose fault is it?
liberal tripe that's cute - Pretty interesting for someone who can't accept the consequences for their own decisions.
I suppose rape is acceptable too?
Interesting comment . No single degree or even double degree takes that long, so the only way people would be graduating that late is if they were mature age, took multiple years off (probably spent establishing a financial safety net). , or opted to do postgraduate degrees (which provide more earning opportunities than undergraduate ones anyway). I feel more sorry for those of us who graduated in our early 20s "straight from school"- with no fun or safety net but still the hecs debtFeel sorry for you bastards that are going to leave uni between age 25 and 30 and have no financial safety net until you find work.
Took me a year after I graduated before I got a graduate role with Queensland Treasur y.
Speaking from a mining background....
Engineering isn't that difficult and allows you to pretty much earn what you want where you want.
Safety science, and to a lesser extent environmental science (my degree) is also going through a massive boom at the mo. Both will earn you 70's straight out of uni and into 6 figures before too long.
Safety and Environmental degrees are also majors pretty much anyone can do with minimal prerequisites
It's not the absolute megabucks or anything, but for the everyman who is daunted by law/medicine i think it's a reasonable choice
Unless there's a downturn. At the particular mines that I'm at, the first places that were gutted were Enviro and the same has just happened to HSEC. Having those departments chock a block in goods times is the cream on top.
Interesting comment . No single degree or even double degree takes that long, so the only way people would be graduating that late is if they were mature age, took multiple years off (probably spent establishing a financial safety net). , or opted to do postgraduate degrees (which provide more earning opportunities than undergraduate ones anyway). I feel more sorry for those of us who graduated in our early 20s "straight from school"- with no fun or safety net but still the hecs debt
This is a pretty insular post. It assumes that everyone has the same privileges and opportunities to follow the linear route of school, university, employment.
Well, no. Many people can't go straight to uni. And it's not because they're setting up a safety net - it's because they don't have parents who handed them everything, and they're just trying to survive. Other people don't have the marks for their chosen course and have to wait until they're 21 to go to uni (admittedly, you'd hope they'd do something in between). Some people straight out of high school have to take gap years because, when you think about it, it's actually pretty unreasonable that we expect 18 year olds to know what they want to do for the rest of their lives. And then you have people like me who got a good way through a degree, realised they were on the wrong track, and then pretty much had to start again.
I'm not complaining about the HECS - I made my bed.
But the increase in interest rates is a disgrace and will particularly hurt people who graduate to low paying jobs and women who take a break to have kids.
I also feel strongly for the people who will go to uni, not be able to get a job immediately, and then be left with nothing. Because I was that person - I did casual jobs in the year after I left uni (I was 24), but also didn't get a job for a year after I'd finished. So no, I'm not the 25yo that the Govt is talking about - but only cos of good luck, not good management.
I'm a good example of why welfare exists. It gave me the hand up, it allowed me to survive... and it allowed me to go on to become the high-functioning, well-paid, high-tax paying worker that I am today. The changes proposed by the Government are about a conservative ideology that doesn't like to see people rise above their class - and that's all it is.
Engineering seems to be a licence to print money, could be a reflection of the period I join the workforce though (2007).
I haven't found the same since starting work as an engineer in 2010, what discipline of engineer are you? Do you work in the mining industry?
Unless you want to work in mining, (relatively) there is not much money in engineering.Im not an Engineer, just used to have Engineer regret. That has since changed after realizing the international opportunities a commerce degree provides.
Engineering is also in the toilet at the moment compared to 4-5 years ago
Not much demand for completed psych honours graduates. People thought it was a easy step into good money so more and more went for it, driving entry scores up, people keep on jumping on board. At mercy of trying to find masters research post degree.How much in demand is psychology - everyone seems to do it?
Also why do people want to kill themselves in their last year of an architect degree
Lamen terms for that last part in regards to architecture? haNot much demand for completed psych honours graduates. People thought it was a easy step into good money so more and more went for it, driving entry scores up, people keep on jumping on board. At mercy of trying to find masters research post degree.
Just final year? I've been dying for 3 years it's the blind belief that it's applicable, valuable real life creativity when were just subsets of the larger capitalist economy for the most part...
People think it lets them be creative for something functional, rather than 'just' art.Lamen terms for that last part in regards to architecture? ha