Which History would you prefer?

Which history would you rather have?

  • 2 AFL premiership flags

    Votes: 116 68.2%
  • 1 AFL premiership flag and 35 SANFL flags

    Votes: 54 31.8%

  • Total voters
    170

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14 AFL flags :)

But since this is about Port and the Crows, I'm going to say that AFL flags out do the SANFL ones, but at a local level, I'd sure like to see my local club with the 35 premierships. That's still a hell of an effort.
 
1 flag and 36 SANFL. The 36 SANFL flags make up for the one afl flag i reckon. Those flags have made our club recognizable as one of the greatest clubs in Australian Football no matter what leauge. There have been more highs and lows aswell as our own tradition at Port Adelaide then Adelaide Crows. Id much rather our history. Looking to the future though, as we all should im liking ours alot better then the crows aswell.
 
If we took out the votes of OBJ's 15 alias's the count would be a bit closer.

Exactly. Whocares, i know underneath all the Adelaide fans want a long hitory and club sense, but they just dont have it. Years and years of watching Port Adelaide defeat there SANFL clubs has scured them i think.
 
Exactly. Whocares, i know underneath all the Adelaide fans want a long hitory and club sense, but they just dont have it. Years and years of watching Port Adelaide defeat there SANFL clubs has scured them i think.

You don't honestly believe that do you?

I know we all love giving each other stick on here, but do you honestly think we care about not having years of history?

Why can't you be proud of your 100 year history, and we can be proud of our short, successful history?
 
I'll take the 2 AFL flags.

You can keep the 35 B-Grade titles. They were won by the Port Adelaide Magpies anyway....Not the Port Power Teal-boys.
 
Is the Crows 2 AFL flags better than Collingwood's 1 and 13 in a B grade state competition?


You just don't get it do you.

It's not a state rivalry thing. The fact is the best footballers from all over Australia always played footy in the VFL, making the VFL football's pinnacle comp.

How many SANFL grand finals were shown live on T.V Australia-wide?

How many average Aussie footy fans (outside of S.A) can tell you about there favorite SANFL grand final?

I'm not having a go at Adelaide the place or South Australia....it's just the way it is.

Oh, by the way. West Coast and Brisbane played in the VFL for 3 seasons....was it still a state comp then?
 

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Whatever mate......I think M.Blight, J.Platten, S.Kernahan, P.Farmer, J.Hird, N.Buckley, J.Dunstall, D.Jarman, W.Carey, G.Cousins (do you want me to go on?) would disagree with you there.

Give me 10 names of players from any state in Australia that opted to play their football in SANFL rather than VFL. They have to be as good as the 10 non-Victorians (who all played VFL footy) I have listed above.......GO!
 
It's not a state rivalry thing. The fact is the best footballers from all over Australia always played footy in the VFL, making the VFL football's pinnacle comp.

The VFL might have been the strongest cop at the time, but it didn't always attract the best footballers. There were plenty of footballers who didn't want to leave family and friends to go and play in Victoria because they were happy to play in their own state league

e.g
Stephen Michael
Barry Robran

Legends of the game who didn't feel the urge to make the trek to Victoria
 
Whatever mate......I think M.Blight, J.Platten, S.Kernahan, P.Farmer, J.Hird, N.Buckley, J.Dunstall, D.Jarman, W.Carey, G.Cousins (do you want me to go on?) would disagree with you there.

Give me 10 names of players from any state in Australia that opted to play their football in SANFL rather than VFL. They have to be as good as the 10 non-Victorians (who all played VFL footy) I have listed above.......GO!

Off the top of my head i just gave you two

Stephen Michael
Barry Robran
John Todd (Won a sandover medal at 16)


and i'm sure if i delved back with a bit of effort you can find plenty of other examples
 
Whatever mate......I think M.Blight, J.Platten, S.Kernahan, P.Farmer, J.Hird, N.Buckley, J.Dunstall, D.Jarman, W.Carey, G.Cousins (do you want me to go on?) would disagree with you there.

Give me 10 names of players from any state in Australia that opted to play their football in SANFL rather than VFL. They have to be as good as the 10 non-Victorians (who all played VFL footy) I have listed above.......GO!

Gary MacIntosh
Russel Ebert reluctantly went over late in his career. Actually flew back and forth for games - still managed to be North's highest possesion winner that year.
 
Off the top of my head i just gave you two

Stephen Michael
Barry Robran
John Todd (Won a sandover medal at 16)


and i'm sure if i delved back with a bit of effort you can find plenty of other examples

O.k, but are these guys South Aussies? Remember everyone I listed was a NON-Victorian who came to Victoria to play.
For example, I want Victorians or Tasmanians who left their state to play in the SANFL....and they have to be pretty friggin' good too, everyone I mentioned was pretty friggin' good in their day.

Surely you see my point??
Look, don't worry about it.....You won't be able to do it.

GO POWER!! I hope you beat the Crows by 12 goals next time you play..Happy now?:) ....now go away, the cricket's on
 
SANFL flags are worth zero compared to the AFL. The AFL is a national sport. Only Port and the Crows were in it to win them.

VFL flags are worth something because eight teams were gunning for it and nine if you count old Fitzroy.


Ignorance is bliss. Lion master the crows never played in sanfl. The sanfl was comprised of ten local teams (now nine).

The N in sanfl means "national" football league.
 
You just don't get it do you.

It's not a state rivalry thing. The fact is the best footballers from all over Australia always played footy in the VFL, making the VFL football's pinnacle comp.

How many SANFL grand finals were shown live on T.V Australia-wide?

How many average Aussie footy fans (outside of S.A) can tell you about there favorite SANFL grand final?

I'm not having a go at Adelaide the place or South Australia....it's just the way it is.

Oh, by the way. West Coast and Brisbane played in the VFL for 3 seasons....was it still a state comp then?


I recall watching the 84 sanfl grand final in the united states (worst game in my life). Sanfl grand finals used to be broadcast nationally and internationally on abc tv. Alot of people in fiji follow port because of the all the sanfl grand finals broadcast into the south pacific via the abc.

Robran, ebert, redden, macintosh, hodges, davies, cunningham, etc, etc. Every sanfl footy team had at least 5-6 players who could have walked into a vfl teams in those days.

The sanfl was never as big a competition as the vfl but to write it off totally as having no significance only highlights your ignorance.
 
O.k, but are these guys South Aussies? Remember everyone I listed was a NON-Victorian who came to Victoria to play.
For example, I want Victorians or Tasmanians who left their state to play in the SANFL....and they have to be pretty friggin' good too, everyone I mentioned was pretty friggin' good in their day.

Surely you see my point??
Look, don't worry about it.....You won't be able to do it.

GO POWER!! I hope you beat the Crows by 12 goals next time you play..Happy now?:) ....now go away, the cricket's on

Firstly, no-one left states to move interstate to play football until the 50's (I think Bernie Smith was the first big name to do so - probably wrong).

So, prior to 1950, players played in their home comps.

Now, if Victorians can seriously believe that the best 360 players in Australia (12 VFL teams x 30 players each) all came from Victoria, then no wonder your teams can't adapt to a national competition...

In addition, prior to 1950, Port Adelaide won 4 Champions of Australia titles (yes, Australia unfortunately includes Victoria) - that means that in those years they were a better team than anything that Victoria could throw at it.

So to say that (up to the 50's at least), VFL flags meant something and SANFL flags mean nothing, is just plain wrong.

That the quality of VFL football was better than the VFL from the late 50's onwards is not in dispute. Indeed, noting Port Adelaide's continued outstanding success in the SANFL from that point, and Collingwoods premiership struggles from that point, seem to support that conclusion.
 

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