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Both clubs having their depth tested.
Hopefully Meek gets up for us. He has been huge both literally and figuratively for us.
Which team out of Adelaide, North and Hawthorn has the better youth? Part 2
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Both clubs having their depth tested.
Hopefully Meek gets up for us. He has been huge both literally and figuratively for us.
Coach has low IQ. Nothing.
He doesn't play meekly
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Must say apart from Lewis we are getting closer to full strength now
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Just him and Blanck who are our best 22 bookends IMO. Hopefully we'll have a bit more luck on the injury front in the second half of the season now that Sicily/Day are back in the 22.
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Fair enough. Didn't watch the game and saw he subbed and assumed he was injured as you normally wouldn't sub one of your best mids so early
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Not even sure Blanck would be there the way Frost and Scrimshaw have stood up
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Frost has been huge. Blanck would help release Weddle/Sicily in a more attacking role though.
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AFL quality, and the best of the 3 teams mentioned here (in my opinion)
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For sure.
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We need to be able to to win with players missing.
Yeah. But we have such huge deficiencies in personnel in the midfield that it does make it hard to cover them all.
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Was actually smart management to rest one of out moat valuable players when the game is won... as opposed to when it's not.
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Rankine is the only huge loss from the midfield.
Pedlar should be, but hasn't been playing midfield hardly all year due to injury.
Schoenberg is back.
Point being more that even with Rankine, the quality just doesn't match the rest of the competition, yet.
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Huh?
You were going on about all out outs impacting our midfield, but only Rankine has played significant minutes this year... & yeah, he is a gun!
Pedlar should be, but he's hardly played much midfield all year with injury & poor management.
Rest have nothing to do with our midfield.
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Yes, but if the point is to assess the two sides future, those five guys are crucial to it. Having them out makes it very hard to assess where we’re at.
Revisiting the above mid-season as promised. Only need 3 more wins in the last 12 rounds (and we have 1 less Blues troll). Tracking as I predicted - in terms of an 8-9 win season (which is just as well after 20+ years on Bigfooty, I don't bet on my account lightly).
Reserves players do seem to have improved us - as I said they would - after all - Massimo with 27 touches on the weekend, Ginnivan with 23 and a goal, Chol with 3 goals and great defensive work, Gunston with 4 and Meek with 40 hit outs.
Fully recognise we are far from the finished product, there will be more bumps in the road and these players won't have good games every week but they remain astute, value pick ups and Hawthorn are not significantly worse and "about to really bottom out in 2024" as some predicted.
(I guess I'm not so delusional after all)
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Going early. I like the confidence.
Something tells me my prediction will be a little bit closer than “finals” and “14 wins” like some of your buddies, but time will tell.
I think winning 8 games and once again avoiding the elite end of the draft would be stupid, but good on the Hawkies for proving me and everyone else wrong by finishing just outside the bottom 4 9 years out from their last finals win. I will lose my account because of it so there’s that
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2 games against Richmond and a game against North to come
Going early. I like the confidence.
Something tells me my prediction will be a little bit closer than “finals” and “14 wins” like some of your buddies, but time will tell.
I think winning 8 games and once again avoiding the elite end of the draft would be stupid, but good on the Hawkies for proving me and everyone else wrong by finishing just outside the bottom 4 9 years out from their last finals win. I will lose my account because of it so there’s that
Firstly, I am not "going early" - I said in an earlier post I would revisit mid-season.
Secondly, I never said 14 wins or finals (barely anyone did) - I said about 8 wins and was mocked and called delusional. You were adamant we would get significantly worse and I was an idiot for thinking 2020 would be our low point (when we won 5 games with a very senior team).
I also provided countless examples of "reserves" players having the capability to improve a team and was laughed at - but here we are.
Finally, I don't think being all time bad and stockpiling picks is a better result (yes, even long term) than winning games with a young team and having your pick a couple of spots lower. Developing talent, learning to win, attracting players, etc are all part of the improvement equation. I don't think many would prefer to be in North's position but again, time will tell.
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On this point something I've been chuffed with for Hawthorn the past month. Go back 12 months and we were so disfunctional without Lewis and Sic. This year Sic has messed 2 in the last month and Lewis most if the season but we have managed. This is huge step forward for our group.
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Based on recent form definitely a few winnable games coming up. The year to come:
Adelaide @ MCG
GWS @ UTAS
Richmond @ MCG
West Coast @ Optus
Geelong @ GMHBA
Freo @ UTAS
Collingwood @ MCG
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Improvement was always a possibility even though I thought otherwise.
It was delusional to think it was guaranteed. There were some Hawks supporters that could not fathom stagnating or going backwards (which still could happen this year or over the next few years).
Time will indeed tell.
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