Which team out of Adelaide, North and Hawthorn has the better youth?

[Roby]

Thanks for the feedback Roby. I get that there are sensitivities after the last couple weeks so I won’t take it to heart.

Sensitives about what? You assuming and making yourself look like a fool. I just pointed out your behaviour in this thread and called you for being a bot. If anyone is sensitive it's you. It's got nothing to do with me how Hawthorn play. The only thing I can control is what I post on here and I'm certainly no where near as bad as you.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Good effort but I have to agree some shuffling of deck chairs need here.

I get why you did it, Day is a very established HB but he should be starting mid in this team. It's a rob Peter to pay Paul situation because he has a claim for both spots, but you have Rachele starting mid who's very much the same but off the HF line. At this stage you're starting Day over Rachele, which is a luxury.

B: Michalanney, Butts, Worrell
HB: Sheezel, Murray, Weddle
C: Soligo, Wardlaw, Scott
HF: Rachele, Fogarty, Thomas
F: Moore, Lewis, Rankine
R: Reeves, Day, Newcombe
I: Pedlar, Phillips, Brockman, Thilthorpe

I do agree with others that Shammy is the choice small defender to choose from but I'm not to sure who he replaces in your team... Possibly Weddle? Because of team balance and maybe going to tall in defence. He has some leg speed as well though....

Who is your 7th defender coming off the bench?

If you insist on Day in the midfield, then you need to consider someone like Thomas in defence.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

If Thilthorpe was given the opportunity to be a full time ruck he would flourish in that role.

I don’t rate his tap work as highly and that’s something for me I rate highly in rucks. I love the ability to get first hands on it and give meaningful first usage.

But he could develop in the mould of a Grundy type but he’s just as valuable forward with his hands, athleticism and footy smarts

 

[VinnieB]

Reeves is a big donkey. Gave the Hawks mids 0 advantage today and I'd go as far to say he was a negative. Rucking against Young and Silvagni the Hawks should've been well and truly ahead in the middle.

Silvagni 1 goal, 17 disposals, 5 marks, 13 hitouts.
Young 13 disposals, 4 marks, 14 hitouts

Reeves 5 disposals, 1 mark, 29 hitouts
Meeks 7 disposals, 1 mark, 32 hitouts.

Mitchell would have been wrapped with the quality performance of his 2 ruckmen.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Reeves is a big donkey. Gave the Hawks mids 0 advantage today and I'd go as far to say he was a negative. Rucking against Young and Silvagni the Hawks should've been well and truly ahead in the middle.

Hawthorn were +35 for hitouts, ya donkey.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I don’t rate his tap work as highly and that’s something for me I rate highly in rucks. I love the ability to get first hands on it and give meaningful first usage.

But he could develop in the mould of a Grundy type but he’s just as valuable forward with his hands, athleticism and footy smarts

Well if you don't watch Thilthorpe, you wouldn't rate him. His tap work is not only decent, but he is like a midfielder when ball hits the ground.

Find me a non-Hawks supporter who would seriously contemplate taking Reeves over Thilthorpe...

 

[HeHateMe]

Who is your 7th defender coming off the bench?

If you insist on Day in the midfield, then you need to consider someone like Thomas in defence.

Yeah not against that, maybe Brocky goes out and Mitchell in. It's very close with alot of these guys so team balance probably dictating a few spots.

 

[SSSSSS]

Well if you don't watch Thilthorpe, you wouldn't rate him. His tap work is not only decent, but he is like a midfielder when ball hits the ground.

Find me a non-Hawks supporter who would seriously contemplate taking Reeves over Thilthorpe...

Reeves first ruck. Thilthorpe as the FWD/2nd ruck.

Boom. Problem solved.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Well if you don't watch Thilthorpe, you wouldn't rate him. His tap work is not only decent, but he is like a midfielder when ball hits the ground.

Find me a non-Hawks supporter who would seriously contemplate taking Reeves over Thilthorpe...

Those 5 hitouts he averages a game must be damn phenomenal for a Crows nuffy like you.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Reeves first ruck. Thilthorpe as the FWD/2nd ruck.

Boom. Problem solved.

I did for my side... but Dom couldn't find a spot for our best young player Thilthorpe in his best 22!

If you could only choose 1 of Reeves & Thilthorpe, who would you choose?

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Well if you don't watch Thilthorpe, you wouldn't rate him. His tap work is not only decent, but he is like a midfielder when ball hits the ground.

Find me a non-Hawks supporter who would seriously contemplate taking Reeves over Thilthorpe...

God it’s rinse and repeat for you? I am having a conversation with someone else and you come in with the same thing every time. Atleast add something meaningful other than potting my opinion and calling me wrong.

I didn’t say I didn’t rate him. I said I don’t rate his tap work. It isn’t his strength. He’s better as an extra midfielder using his body, and his capacity round the ground.

His forward craft is much better.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Those 5 hitouts he averages a game must be damn phenomenal for a Crows nuffy like you.

Only a clueless person would think Thilthorpe was leading our rucks. He plays less than 25%!

Guess you have never heard of Reilly O'Brien...

If could choose 1 of Reeves & Thilthorpe, who would you choose?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I did for my side... but Dom couldn't find a spot for our best young player Thilthorpe in his best 22!

If you could only choose 1 of Reeves & Thilthorpe, who would you choose?

If you want a ruckman, it's a pretty easy decision.
If you want a forward, it's pretty easy too.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

God it’s rinse and repeat for you? I am having a conversation with someone else and you come in with the same thing every time. Atleast add something meaningful other than potting my opinion and calling me wrong.

I didn’t say I didn’t rate him. I said I don’t rate his tap work. It isn’t his strength. He’s better as an extra midfielder using his body, and his capacity round the ground.

His forward craft is much better.

You didn't have him in your 22, yet he is our best young player.

How is that rating him?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Hawthorn were +35 for hitouts, ya donkey.

And got beaten in the clearances (your favourite Hawkies metric) despite the "dominance"

Meek was even worse

Pittonet would've eaten the little fella for breakfast. And he's a bog average ruckmen.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

I did for my side... but Dom couldn't find a spot for our best young player Thilthorpe in his best 22!

If you could only choose 1 of Reeves & Thilthorpe, who would you choose?

Again you decide to pot me and my opinion. Instead of having a civil conversation and discussion. Relax man.

 

[SSSSSS]

Combined 22.

B. Michalanney Butts Mitchell
HB. Sheezel Murray Weddle

C. Soligo Wardlaw Ward

R. Reeves Day Newcombe

HF: Rachele Lewis Moore
F: Rankine Fogarty Pedlar

I/C: Thomas Thilthorpe Brockman Phillips


9 Crows
9 Hawks
4 Roos

 

[SSSSSS]

I did for my side... but Dom couldn't find a spot for our best young player Thilthorpe in his best 22!

If you could only choose 1 of Reeves & Thilthorpe, who would you choose?

As a genuine first choice ruck to play a game tomorrow and win. Reeves. Anyone that says otherwise is taking the piss.

As a player to build your team around. Thilthorpe. Anyone that says otherwise is taking the piss.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

And got beaten in the clearances (your favourite Hawkies metric) despite the "dominance"

Meek was even worse

Pittonet would've eaten the little fella for breakfast. And he's a bog average ruckmen.

Yeah, we've already gone over this. Our midfield was poor. They were -11 for first possession, that's literally what that stat means on the back of having the ruck ascendency.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Those 5 hitouts he averages a game must be damn phenomenal for a Crows nuffy like you.

I appreciate your passion and defence of your footy club and the Hawks players, but I feel like for a moderator, you should dial down the insults and condescending retorts to other club posters whose views you disagree with. You're better than that..

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Good effort but I have to agree some shuffling of deck chairs need here.

I get why you did it, Day is a very established HB but he should be starting mid in this team. It's a rob Peter to pay Paul situation because he has a claim for both spots, but you have Rachele starting mid who's very much the same but off the HF line. At this stage you're starting Day over Rachele, which is a luxury.

B: Michalanney, Butts, Worrell
HB: Sheezel, Murray, Weddle
C: Soligo, Wardlaw, Scott
HF: Rachele, Fogarty, Thomas
F: Moore, Lewis, Rankine
R: Reeves, Day, Newcombe
I: Pedlar, Phillips, Brockman, Thilthorpe

I do agree with others that Shammy is the choice small defender to choose from but I'm not to sure who he replaces in your team... Possibly Weddle? Because of team balance and maybe going to tall in defence. He has some leg speed as well though....

Simplified with discussions this would be my new team

B: Michalanney, Blanck, Worrell
HB: Sheezel, Murray, Weddle
C: Soligo, Wardlaw, Ward
HF: Rachele, Fogarty, Thomas
F: Moore, Lewis, Rankine
R: Reeves, Day, Newcombe
I: Brockman, Phillips, Thilthorpe, Mitchell, Pedlar (sub)

Still rate Blanck highly, but you could shuffle him out for Worrell as CHB, Murray at FB, Weddle in the pocket & Seamus on HBF with Pedlar into the starting bench.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Combined 22.

B. Michalanney Butts Mitchell
HB. Sheezel Murray Weddle

C. Soligo Wardlaw Ward

R. Reeves Day Newcombe

HF: Rachele Lewis Moore
F: Rankine Fogarty Pedlar

I/C: Thomas Thilthorpe Brockman Phillips


9 Crows
9 Hawks
4 Roos

Soligo shouldn't be in that side. He's having a similar year to Cmac, yet somehow gets hyped in this thread.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I appreciate your passion and defence of your footy club and the Hawks players, but I feel like for a moderator, you should dial down the insults and condescending retorts to other club posters whose views you disagree with. You're better than that..

Calling someone a Crows nuffy or a Hawks nuffy isn't an insult. We're all biased nuffies on here.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Combined 22.

B. Michalanney Butts Mitchell
HB. Sheezel Murray Weddle

C. Soligo Wardlaw Ward

R. Reeves Day Newcombe

HF: Rachele Lewis Moore
F: Rankine Fogarty Pedlar

I/C: Thomas Thilthorpe Brockman Phillips


9 Crows
9 Hawks
4 Roos

The common theme is clearly Roos last with 4. But they’re a really good 4.

Hawks and Crows similar with different opinions having one side greater than or even.

 

[SSSSSS]

Soligo shouldn't be in that side. He's having a similar year to Cmac, yet somehow gets hyped in this thread.

I like Soligo. Agreed it's pretty close between Soligo and CMac stats wise, but I think he genuinely plays the wing role a bit better than CMac does. CMac more of a high half forward type.