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Deeman deciding between Hassan Whiteside and Jamal Crawford...
im trying to decide between going win now and BPA to pair w SGA or go a young guy i rly rly want just coz hes fun af and he wont last to my next pick but he isnt the best pick to go w SGA. Its tough trying to decide overall direction...
 

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After Helios submits his next pick, I'm up .... but it's a damned important pick for me at 33. I then have to wait until pick 64! This order flip sucks (for me).

POLL: If you could choose, pick one of the following:
(A) Pick 1, 32, 48, 49
(B) Pick 8, 25, 41, 56
(C) Pick 16, 17, 33, 64
 
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After Helios submits his next pick, I'm up .... but it's a damned important pick for me at 33. I then have to wait until pick 64! This order flip sucks (for me).

POLL: If you could choose, pick one of the following:
(A) Pick 1, 32, 48, 49
(B) Pick 8, 26, 42, 55
(C) Pick 16, 17, 33, 64
Put the fifth Pick on those sequences...
 
Put the fifth Pick on those sequences...
I was interested on the first 4 as the end point due to the switch effect and where people perceive the value (good or bad) to be.

For me, there is no doubt that if offered to take the # 1 pick (and 3 others in the top 50) vs the # 16 pick and (3 others in the top 65) that I'd go pick # 1.

Ok, I've added that below for reference.
(A) Pick 1, 32, 48, 49, 80
(B) Pick 8, 25, 41, 56, 72
(C) Pick 16, 17, 33, 64, 65

Ps - not having a whinge. Just curious :thumbsu:
 
The 3rd round reversal is really designed as a counter to the significantly greater value of the top 4-5 picks.
Obviously we are set with this structure but real question is... are picks 16, 17, 33 & 64 (our draft order) preferable to 16, 17, 48 & 49 (tradional snake draft) I would argue exponentially better which is why we structured it that way.
Hey, 1st pick is always preferable to 16th regardless.
 
The 3rd round reversal is really designed as a counter to the significantly greater value of the top 4-5 picks.
Obviously we are set with this structure but real question is... are picks 16, 17, 33 & 64 (our draft order) preferable to 16, 17, 48 & 49 (tradional snake draft) I would argue exponentially better which is why we structured it that way.
Hey, 1st pick is always preferable to 16th regardless.
Agree with all that 👍🏼
My first experience with a reversal so good to hear the reasoning
 
I was interested on the first 4 as the end point due to the switch effect and where people perceive the value (good or bad) to be.

For me, there is no doubt that if offered to take the # 1 pick (and 3 others in the top 50) vs the # 16 pick and (3 others in the top 65) that I'd go pick # 1.

Ok, I've added that below for reference.
(A) Pick 1, 32, 48, 49, 80
(B) Pick 8, 25, 41, 56, 72
(C) Pick 16, 17, 33, 64, 65

Ps - not having a whinge. Just curious :thumbsu:
Pretty tough tbh, dont think its as straight forward as you make it. The 3 rd reversal def evens it out a fair bit for the early rounds. It also kinda changes depending how ppl pick. Had people picked closer to what most dynasty boards looked like with the likes of Steph and kd etc. In the top 30 I would take B or A.

However given the fact that all the good young guys came off the board top 30-35, I think I might go C and take 3 young guys. I would trade a top 3 guy for the chance to get 2 good young guys like for instance give me Garland and Chet & one of the guys available at the top of my board here (had I been picking 16 it's what I would've taken) over jokic and pick 32 and 48. But I really think this changes quite a lot depending on people's strategies, your own strategy and who's available. If youre going super young and the draft had been as this has been I just think the 3 top 35 young guys are better.

If you're going win now then perhaps pick 1 or even 4 was better. For instance Haliburton and Davis is prob the best 2 guys for next season taken assuming Davis gives you 50-65 games. But it's all so difficult to think about in dynasty where you're judging things over 10 years.
 

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Pretty tough tbh, dont think its as straight forward as you make it. The 3 rd reversal def evens it out a fair bit for the early rouns. It also kinda changes depending how ppl pick. Had people picked closer to what most dynasty boards looked like with the likes of Steph and kd etc. In the top 30 I would take B or A.

However given the fact that all the good young guys came off the board top 30-35, I think I might go C and take 3 young guys. I would trade a top 3 guy for the chance to get 2 good young guys like for instance give me Garland and Chet & one of the guys available at the top of my board here (had I been picking 16 it's what I would've taken) over jokic and pick 32 and 48. But I really think this changes quite a lot depending on people's strategies, your own strategy and who's available. If youre going super young and the draft had been as this has been I just think the 3 top 35 young guys are better.

If you're going win now then perhaps pick 1 or even 4 was better. For instance Haliburton and Davis is prob the best 2 guys for next season taken assuming Davis gives you 50-65 games. But it's all so difficult to think about in dynasty where you're judging things over 10 years.
All true deeman87
A young player is next up for me ... watch this space 🤣
 
I was interested on the first 4 as the end point due to the switch effect and where people perceive the value (good or bad) to be.

For me, there is no doubt that if offered to take the # 1 pick (and 3 others in the top 50) vs the # 16 pick and (3 others in the top 65) that I'd go pick # 1.

Ok, I've added that below for reference.
(A) Pick 1, 32, 48, 49, 80
(B) Pick 8, 25, 41, 56, 72
(C) Pick 16, 17, 33, 64, 65

Ps - not having a whinge. Just curious :thumbsu:
If it's me, I'm taking C.

Depends on how you look at it though.
A gets you four picks in the top 50.
B gets you about three in the same space.
C gets you five picks inside 65 for a more-rounded team.

Again, it comes down to who's picked ahead of you, but I feel like C would be my preferred option.
 
The biggest advice I can give when it comes to Roto is if you want to compete you need a deep roster. Stars and scrubs doesn't work like it might do in H2H.
Your best players can only play 82 games at most, 1/12 your total games played. And with the average modern nba player in around 65 games a season, even your 3 bench guys will be rotated in.

Ah the strategy of Roto, and of dynasty. So interesting don't you think?
 
While we are on the subject of draft order, is everyone in understanding of, and comfortable with, the rules for all subsequent year's drafts?
It is quite a departure from regular methods, as it is based on player production not team record.
I believe it will work brilliantly, but it will influence strategy, particularly when it comes to trading.
 
I was interested on the first 4 as the end point due to the switch effect and where people perceive the value (good or bad) to be.

For me, there is no doubt that if offered to take the # 1 pick (and 3 others in the top 50) vs the # 16 pick and (3 others in the top 65) that I'd go pick # 1.

Ok, I've added that below for reference.
(A) Pick 1, 32, 48, 49, 80
(B) Pick 8, 25, 41, 56, 72
(C) Pick 16, 17, 33, 64, 65

Ps - not having a whinge. Just curious :thumbsu:
Is that order correct?

With a 3rd round reversal will A not have the following picks?

1, 32, 48, 49, 65

C will have:
16, 17, 33, 64, 80
 
Is that order correct?

With a 3rd round reversal will A not have the following picks?

1, 32, 48, 49, 65

C will have:
16, 17, 33, 64, 80
I think mines correct. The snake format continues, it just flips at r3
 
I think at the end of the day, a 16 team roto dynasty league is bloody hard to win and good drafting, a set strategy, good scouting/waiver management and good use of your position slots is gonna define success in this thing as opposed to draft position. (though ofc draft position has a minor impact on individual players) It also isnt like H2h where you can finish 6th in the season and just luckbox your way through the playoffs while your opponents are hit with injuries/rested during the playoffs ;)
 
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I think at the end of the day, a 16 team roto dynasty league is bloody hard to win and good drafting, a set strategy, good scouting/waiver management and good use of your position slots is gonna define success in this thing as opposed to draft position. (though ofc draft position has a minor impact on individual players) It also isnt like H2h where you can finish 6th in the season and just luckbox your way through the playoffs while your opponents are hit with injuries/rested during the playoffs ;)
You've triggered some ptsd for me here ... i was the #1 dominant player in my h2h last year and went out straight sets in the finals. 🤣
 
Man save some blocks for the rest of us Billy. Where am i gonna find some blocks now. Was really hoping for one of Fox, Claxton or Bridges next, i might have to get creative or something. Perhaps i shouldnt have made such a gamble with my 2nd pick and just taken Turner. What to do next, hmmmmmmm :think:
 

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