Prediction Who finishes highest out of Tigers, Cats, Giants, Eagles & Lions in 2020

Who finishes highest out of

  • Tigers

    Votes: 73 47.4%
  • Cats

    Votes: 7 4.5%
  • Giants

    Votes: 9 5.8%
  • Eagles

    Votes: 56 36.4%
  • Lions

    Votes: 9 5.8%

  • Total voters
    154

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How come WC got such a tough draw in 2020? They play Richmond, Geelong and Collingwood twice. No one else has so many games against last year's top 4.

Brisbane, for example, who finished higher than WC, play Geelong, Collingwood, Hawthorn, North Melbourne and Gold Coast twice. Why do they get an easier draw after finishing higher?
 

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mate they won the f***en comp
Yet he seems so concerned about us?

Embarrassing? I’d say your guns finals effort in 2019 was what is embarrassing.

I think it’s I who are your head , as your stalking proves .

Go change your club song .



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I wouldn't call our finals efforts embarrassing, we smashed Essendon and after a slow start against Geelong tied the scores at 3 quarter time only to run out of gas in the last quarter, it happens. Luckily we've improved our team and are as good a chance as any for another flag to go with 2018's. I don't need to stalk to see your sig, profile picture, and reply to the comment you posted in the thread that I'm reading. Odd thing to say?
 
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Embarrassing? I’d say your guns finals effort in 2019 was what is embarrassing.

I think it’s I who are your head , as your stalking proves .

Go change your club song .



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Haha, the only thing embarrassing here are your posts!

Everyone knows that eags need to be better than they were in 2019 if they want a crack at the flag this year. Given developments since the Geelong game it is easy to see where that development comes from.

Some Richmond fans are very keen to exaggerate the Eagles 2019 finals performance.

Reeks of fear.


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Yet he seems so concerned about us?


I wouldn't call our finals efforts embarrassing, we smashed Essendon and after a slow start against Geelong tied the scores at 3 quarter time only to run out of gas in the last quarter, it happens. Luckily we've improved our team and are as good a chance as any for another flag to go with 2018's. I don't need to stalk to see your sig, profile picture, and reply to the comment you posted in the thread that I'm reading. Odd thing to say?
Defeating Essendon in a final and doing nothing else is embarassing, and this being a pass mark in your eyes is an odd thing to imply.

Good thing to know if its more of the same for 2020 that you will be content.
 
How come WC got such a tough draw in 2020? They play Richmond, Geelong and Collingwood twice. No one else has so many games against last year's top 4.

Brisbane, for example, who finished higher than WC, play Geelong, Collingwood, Hawthorn, North Melbourne and Gold Coast twice. Why do they get an easier draw after finishing higher?
And why do you have to travel so much too? Its almost like hidden forces based your team as far away as possible from the majority of every other teams home ground. Why does every other team get it easy?
 
And why do you have to travel so much too? Its almost like hidden forces based your team as far away as possible from the majority of every other teams home ground. Why does every other team get it easy?
Why pretend I said something I didn't say?

Of course we have to play 10 games outside WA. That's obvious. That said, away games in Melbourne would be preferable to Geelong or Tasmania.

Regardless, that has nothing to do with playing more games against last year's top 4 than anyone else. Why does WC get that ostensibly tougher draw, having finished 6th? Why do Brisbane, for example, have an easier draw, despite finishing higher? If anything their double-ups should be tougher because they're already guaranteed two games against the Suns every year.

When the AFL sits down to build their weighted draw, do they not say "hang on, we've given the 6th side the most games against the best teams and that's not really the objective"?
 
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I don't rate West Coasts chances due to interstate travel. I thought they were extremely lucky to win 2018. Definitely have the list though
I don't think people understand how perfect everything has to go to win it outside Victoria, form...injuries...lots of luck. This current list is good but not good enough to win 2 I'm afraid. Richmond to win it all again.
 

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pure speculation ---
1) Richmond - gun team, gun coach without doubt the team to beat, no one wants to face them in September.
2) West Coast - Choked at a critical time in 18 and with Barrass not playing well Gov was less effective.Addition of Tim Kelly will have a big impact and Nic Nat if fit will give the mids first clean use of the ball, if not then anywhere from 3rd to 8th
3) Bulldogs - Gun Team and the addition of Bruce will score big, Bont is a a star
4) GWS - made the GF last year and are coached well and their midfield is very very good
5) Geelong - Over-achieved a bit last year
6) Brisbane - Over achieved a bit last year
7) North Melbourne - Under Achieved last year
8) Collingwood - are falling but not fallen
9) Carlton - Charge up the ladder, Cripps wins the Brownlow in a three way tie with the Bont and T Kelly.
10) Hawthorn - Patton breaks down and will struggle to kick consistent scores, If Patton manages to put together a whole season they will finish top 8
11) Essendon - Can't see them any higher without a decent ruck
12) Adelaide - meh...... apart from Crouch's and Talia, they are a middle of the road team.
13) St Kilda - Bruce will kick 60 for the dogs
14) Melbourne - good list but the coaching is not really up to it
15) Port - perennial underachievers
16) Fremantle - good recruiting but will get worse before they get better. Where will they get their goals from ? Fyfe and Walters cannot do it all.
17) Sydney - a few good young players but a broken buddy and an ageing list
18) Gold Coast - Some great young talent but the coaching is just not there and will not get the best of of them
 
Defeating Essendon in a final and doing nothing else is embarassing, and this being a pass mark in your eyes is an odd thing to imply.

Good thing to know if its more of the same for 2020 that you will be content.
I'm not sure where I implied that it was a pass mark from me, I simply said it happens. It happened to Richmond in the 2018 PF, you should be familiar. A pass mark for me will be nothing short of a flag, and anyone with 2 eyes and a brain can see where the potential improvement for west coast might come from. Exciting year ahead.
 
I'm not sure where I implied that it was a pass mark from me, I simply said it happens. It happened to Richmond in the 2018 PF, you should be familiar. A pass mark for me will be nothing short of a flag, and anyone with 2 eyes and a brain can see where the potential improvement for west coast might come from. Exciting year ahead.
Draw sucks balls, though.
 
I voted eagles, but I could make an argument for every team except Geelong.
 
I'm not sure where I implied that it was a pass mark from me, I simply said it happens. It happened to Richmond in the 2018 PF, you should be familiar. A pass mark for me will be nothing short of a flag, and anyone with 2 eyes and a brain can see where the potential improvement for west coast might come from. Exciting year ahead.
Does the sum of factors for improvement out weigh the sum of factors for stagnation or dropping off?

Factors such as Kelly are an obvious plus but then theres the draw, fitness of key forwards and Natinui, Rioli and the seemingly increasing problem of travel for example, which have alot of people sceptical.

Feel free to add positives to the list though (and for that matter any negatives ive missed)
 
pure speculation ---
1) Richmond - gun team, gun coach without doubt the team to beat, no one wants to face them in September.
2) West Coast - Choked at a critical time in 18 and with Barrass not playing well Gov was less effective.Addition of Tim Kelly will have a big impact and Nic Nat if fit will give the mids first clean use of the ball, if not then anywhere from 3rd to 8th
3) Bulldogs - Gun Team and the addition of Bruce will score big, Bont is a a star
4) GWS - made the GF last year and are coached well and their midfield is very very good
5) Geelong - Over-achieved a bit last year
6) Brisbane - Over achieved a bit last year
7) North Melbourne - Under Achieved last year
8) Collingwood - are falling but not fallen
9) Carlton - Charge up the ladder, Cripps wins the Brownlow in a three way tie with the Bont and T Kelly.
10) Hawthorn - Patton breaks down and will struggle to kick consistent scores, If Patton manages to put together a whole season they will finish top 8
11) Essendon - Can't see them any higher without a decent ruck
12) Adelaide - meh...... apart from Crouch's and Talia, they are a middle of the road team.
13) St Kilda - Bruce will kick 60 for the dogs
14) Melbourne - good list but the coaching is not really up to it
15) Port - perennial underachievers
16) Fremantle - good recruiting but will get worse before they get better. Where will they get their goals from ? Fyfe and Walters cannot do it all.
17) Sydney - a few good young players but a broken buddy and an ageing list
18) Gold Coast - Some great young talent but the coaching is just not there and will not get the best of of them
Overall i like your thinking, with some minor tweaks:-

Wc a bit lower
Stk a bit higher
 
Richmond nuffie creates post telling everyone how good Richmond is.

bIgFoOtY
Yes a post about the ladder this season with a bit about Richmond and every other team is hardly telling everyone how good Richmond are..... considering they are flag favourites or there about it's hardly shocking that he had his own team on top.
 
Does the sum of factors for improvement out weigh the sum of factors for stagnation or dropping off?

Factors such as Kelly are an obvious plus but then theres the draw, fitness of key forwards and Natinui, Rioli and the seemingly increasing problem of travel for example, which have alot of people sceptical.

Feel free to add positives to the list though (and for that matter any negatives ive missed)
From where I'm standing it definitely does. JK and NN at full health have probably been our 2 most impactful players over the last decade, having full pre seasons for both of them is absolutely massive. Add an elite mid in Kelly to the same midfield that now has a healthy Naitanui tapping to it, that allowed us to take a slow and defensively weak Masten out of the side and put Gaff back to full time wing where he plays his best football. That also allows Shuey and Yeo to get off the chain more. Losing Rioli stings, but if Cameron can continue to develop after the promise he showed last year then it will at least partially mitigate his loss.

The draw is difficult but we also copped the hardest draw based on pre season expectations last season after we won the flag as well, and only finished one game short of our flag year. None of us will really know who had the toughest draw until the end of the season anyway, if we're good enough the draw won't be an issue. I'm not sure what you mean about the seemingly increasing problem of travel, we've always been the club that travelled the most, which is odd really, you'd think that it would be 50/50 us or Fremantle every other year but apparently not.

Barrass had a bad second half to the year after missing half of the home and away season, he never recaptured form and particularly struggled towards the end of the season where he had a few shockers which directly resulted in goals at crucial times which had a big impact on winning or losing games. He's a young and developing, but talented KPD and I'd expect him to have learnt from those mistakes and that will hopefully help the backline as a whole.
 
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