Who has the worst list? Collingwood or Essendon?

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Just keep it simple. Tough call really but I would probably say Essendon, but only just.

Both will have no spine in another year or so with retirements and have shizen midfields.

Even in the Hawks deep dark days (2003), we still had Thompsons, Croads, McPharlins etc coming through in the spine.

I know the Pies have Pendlebury and Cloke which is why I put them slightly ahead but there is GAPING holes in both lists, that will only get worse in 2008.

I like Dale Thomas, think he will be a star which is another reason I put them ahead but I am not convinced either team will make the finals for at least 3 - 5 years.

Gotta be Collingwood? Why? Coz it's Collingwood.
 

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Lists don't mean s h i t
If you glance over the lists of WCE and Sydney you'll find that WCE in terms of talent and class >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney but why do you think Sydney have beaten WCE numerous times?

Hunger, determination and commitment are just as important to class and quality.
On paper Essendon in 1999 should have beaten Carlton by 10+ goals in the PF (we did it during the H&A season) but we bloody lost by one point.
 
Your intellectual ability, or lack of it is astounding.

Do you really want to come across as a moron?

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Why haven't Carlton got the worst list?

5 years, 3 spoons. Seems like a pretty sh*tty list to me.

And I know you're all "Gibbs Gibbs omg Gibbs i wanna boof him" but one player doesn't make a team. I know you're pinning your hopes on the Adelaide born and bred youngster but inevitably it's a team game, and your list is, well, crap.
 
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Why haven't Carlton got the worst list?

5 years, 3 spoons. Seems like a pretty sh*tty list to me.

And I know you're all "Gibbs Gibbs omg Gibbs i wanna boof him" but one player doesn't make a team. I know you're pinning your hopes on the Adelaide born and bred youngster but inevitably it's a team game, and your list is, well, crap.

On the contrary, Adelaide is the one pegging their hopes on Gibbs-you are pathetic, and realise your youth is horrible. You needed an injection of youthful talent, which is why you are hurting so much about Gibbs.

We know we will be back up the ladder in a few years time. If you knew anything about football you would see we are collecting some of the best kids int he country, and have one of the best lists of kids in the AFL. Gibbs is just adding to the depth.

When we are on the up, you willbe on the slide down as your older champs retire, and the kids are just not good enough to keep you up there.
 
Are Carlton supporters the biggest morons to grace the earth?

Your team is one of the worst teams in the history of the AFL, this team has won 3 out of the last 5 spoons - that is pathetic, terrible, disgraceful. Stop saying your team is anything even close to decent until you get your asses off the bottom of the ladder for once. ********wits.
 
Are Carlton supporters the biggest morons to grace the earth?

Your team is one of the worst teams in the history of the AFL, this team has won 3 out of the last 5 spoons - that is pathetic, terrible, disgraceful. Stop saying your team is anything even close to decent until you get your asses off the bottom of the ladder for once. ********wits.

Attacking a club, yet too scared to reveal your own club.

Weak, spineless tosser.
 
Your intellectual ability, or lack of it is astounding.

Do you really want to come across as a moron?

Why do you always play the intelligence card? Do you feel as though you're intelligent?

Because I'm pretty sure this is the same man who wanted to 'Humpur' me.

People who use overly long words to convey a simple message are always far less intelligent than they think they are anyway.

You should've said 'Your lack of intelligence baffles me'. Instead you went for the whole 'I'll try and look smart by using an overly long sentence for a simple message'. Maybe soon we can discuss the mechanics of sports and more specifically Australian Rules and see who REALLY is the smartest. I'm sure it'll be you *warble*.

Now we've sorted things out you silly little moocow, back to your spoon and squillions of dollars in debt.
 
Why do you always play the intelligence card? Do you feel as though you're intelligent?

Because I'm pretty sure this is the same man who wanted to 'Humpur' me.

People who use overly long words to convey a simple message are always far less intelligent than they think they are anyway.

You should've said 'Your lack of intelligence baffles me'. Instead you went for the whole 'I'll try and look smart by using an overly long sentence for a simple message'. Maybe soon we can discuss the mechanics of sports and more specifically Australian Rules and see who REALLY is the smartest. I'm sure it'll be you *warble*.

Now we've sorted things out you silly little moocow, back to your spoon and squillions of dollars in debt.

Back to my spoon. It has food on it. Lucky you don't have it, you would choke on it :)

Choker.
 

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Pretty close....both teams have good picks next year and a few players at the end of their careers

Essendon
Youngters - Monfries, Stanton, Watson, Winderlich Picks 2, 18 & 20
Players over 30 - Hird, Fletcher, Campo, Sheedy;)

Pies
Youngsters - Pendlebury, Thomas, T Cloke, Picks 8 & 10
Players over 30 - Buckley, Clement, Burns, Wakelin, Malthouse;)
 
Pretty close....both teams have good picks next year and a few players at the end of their careers

Essendon
Youngters - Monfries, Stanton, Watson, Winderlich Picks 2, 18 & 20
Players over 30 - Hird, Fletcher, Campo, Sheedy;)

Pies
Youngsters - Pendlebury, Thomas, T Cloke, Picks 8 & 10
Players over 30 - Buckley, Clement, Burns, Wakelin, Malthouse;)

I think Watson is a bit under-rated. He was great last year.
 
Shouldn't we wait unril AFTER the draft to start talking about who has the worst or best lists ? If some of the incoming draftees are as good as they are touted the lists of some of the clubs with early selections (Carlton etc) could be dramatically improved overnight !
 
Carlton supporters crack me up the most. They are under the impression that with Murphy and Gibbs they will win 10 flags in the next 15 years. Carlton are rebuilding but they are still crap with a crappy list so just get used to it.
I don't think the Bombers managed to beat Carlton once last season ...I thing you need a reality check if you don't realise that the young Carlton list has a much much better upside than the Bombers
 
On the contrary, Adelaide is the one pegging their hopes on Gibbs-you are pathetic, and realise your youth is horrible. You needed an injection of youthful talent, which is why you are hurting so much about Gibbs.

We know we will be back up the ladder in a few years time. If you knew anything about football you would see we are collecting some of the best kids int he country, and have one of the best lists of kids in the AFL. Gibbs is just adding to the depth.

When we are on the up, you willbe on the slide down as your older champs retire, and the kids are just not good enough to keep you up there.

Another thing about Carlton supporters that annoys me. Yes you are collecting the best kids in the country but don’t make out as if you worked hard to rebuild your list. Being a pathetic team for 5 years does not make you a team with the best youngsters. It also isn’t as if they had great recruiting to get Murphy, Walker and now Gibbs. Those players were all shoe ins for number 1-3 in the draft.
 
I don't think the Bombers managed to beat Carlton once last season ...I thing you need a reality check if you don't realise that the young Carlton list has a much much better upside than the Bombers
I love morons like you that determine which team is better over a result. If thats the case we have better lists than Sydney and Collingwood. I don't think we are better than either side but if you think that you seriously know nothing about footy.
 
I love morons like you that determine which team is better over a result. If thats the case we have better lists than Sydney and Collingwood. I don't think we are better than either side but if you think that you seriously know nothing about footy.
resorting to name calling shows you have already lost the argument
 
I reckon we've got Essendon covered in the middle age bracket - Didak, Fraser and Ben Johnson etc - besides that we have similar talent in older players on our list and younger players (although I think we have a greater number of promising kids than them also)
 
Carlton have the worst list easily, NO backline, ONE forward (fevola) and three midfielders(stevens,murphy,simpson) two of them who will be stars and the other a soft outside midfielder.

Please Carlton, stop kidding yoursel :thumbsu:
 
kangaroos by a country mile.........:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Congratulations on almost making me choke on my tuna sanga.Ok, I'm feeling generous today so I'll amplify my remark with a comment other than alcohol as you have done.Actually no I'll just hang out for the season to start again and the perennial 14-3.Seriously, you're an embarassment.
 

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