Who Should Be In The Hall Of Fame, and Who Should Be A Legend?

[BronCrow]

I think this is the problem. There needs to be a Victorian Football Hall of Fame, and a number of lesser inductees purged and transferred.

It would make to much sense to do such a thing. If, hypothetically such a thing did ever happen, players such as Bickley, Bell and O'Loughlin would also need to be transferred out their respective states Hall of Fame as well.

 

[screech]

Pray tell how Malcom Greenslade (2.82 goals per game) had a more notable career than Peter McKenna (4.57 goals per game)? McKenna kicked 268 more goals than him from 24 less games. McKenna's goal kicking record is only slightly inferior to someone like Locketts, basically due to injury, he's a borderline legend. McKenna was labelled the 5th Beatle by the media at one stage in the late 60's.

Playing in Sturts 5 x premierships in the 60's doesn't automatically qualify you for the hall of fame either.

Otherwise where's the outrage for Martin Pike?


You have Tony Burgess in there over Geoff Southby? Burgess moved to the VFL in his relative prime as a 24 year old and was ordinary. Southby was arguably Carlton's best player in the 70's in a side that contained Jezza, Doull, Nicholls and Walls.


Barry Davis was good enough the make both North and Essendon's TOTC's, win flags for both and captain both sides.


Bedford was a brownlow winner, a sensational player considered close to the best player in the comp in shit sides for most of his career. As a rover who rested forward he went at almost 2 goals a game...


Most of the players you listed are fully deserving of the Hall.....

Greenslade was a bit more versatile than McKenna, spending time at Full Back and other positions during his career. Yes he was recognised as a key forward for a period, including three premierships (and 9 goals in a Grand Final), but spent a significant time further down the field, particularly around half forward. When he finished up, he was the sixth highest goalkicker in SANFL history.

Sorry, Tony Burgess was a typo - should have been Tony Burgan, Burgess never played for Sturt and was a later era.

 

[screech]

It would make to much sense to do such a thing. If, hypothetically such a thing did ever happen, players such as Bickley, Bell and O'Loughlin would also need to be transferred out their respective states Hall of Fame as well.

All three of those were for achievements in the National competition, and as such should not be relegated to a state level status (whatever the merit of their induction)

 

[Pykie]

Greenslade was a bit more versatile than McKenna, spending time at Full Back and other positions during his career. Yes he was recognised as a key forward for a period, including three premierships (and 9 goals in a Grand Final), but spent a significant time further down the field, particularly around half forward. When he finished up, he was the sixth highest goalkicker in SANFL history.

Sorry, Tony Burgess was a typo - should have been Tony Burgan, Burgess never played for Sturt and was a later era.

Mate, McKenna clearly topped the goal kicking at the only 2 interstate carnivals he played in and he has one of the highest goals/per game averages in history. He was a genuine superstar.

The Victorian side wiped those carnivals from the mid 60's right up until 1979 when WA managed to just beat them.


Essentially right in the same era you are proclaiming as one where a bundle of SA's who played for Sturt deserve to be admitted for 5x flags in a row.

Remember the VFA even competed in those carnivals in the late 60's and didn't disgrace themselves as essentially what was a second division Victorian league.

 

[BronCrow]

All three of those were for achievements in the National competition, and as such should not be relegated to a state level status (whatever the merit of their induction)

Are you aware that O'Louglin is already in the South Australian Football Hall of Fame?

 

[masai]

Are you aware that O'Louglin is already in the South Australian Football Hall of Fame?

Bell is in the Korean.

I believe they inducted him as a Legend immediately.

 

[screech]

In regards to the Legends category, based on the existing members - the following should be walk up starts...

Ken Farmer - the greatest full forward the game has seen. 11 consecutive centuries and 81 goals from 17 state games. His record eclipses the other forwards Coleman, Coventry, Lockett, Pratt
Russell Ebert & Bill Walker - four time medallists
Jack Oatey & Fos Williams - once Jock McHale and Kevin Sheedy were elevated, these two have to be. Particularly Oatey who is credited with transforming the game through the use of handball. 10 and 9 coached premierships respectively and significant playing careers in their own right with multiple best and fairests and state reps each
Neil Kerley - Mr Football, massive influence in SA at 5 different clubs. Had an equivalent influence on the game in SA as Ted Whitten did in Vic.
Craig Bradley - Record holder for league games played

As for outstanding inductees.
Andrew Jarman - has been mentioned previously, 5 Fos Williams Medals is a record
Tom Leahy - Known as the "prince of Ruckmen", considered one of the greatest Rucks ever to have played the game
Richard "Dick" Head - Champion footballer of the 1920s, who continued on in administrative roles in later years
Peter Marker - From Glenelg's golden era, went on to have a significant media contribution
Bob Shearman - Champion across two clubs and 5 time premiership player. 2 time winner of the Craven Filter national champion kick of Australia
Jack Tredrea - The first South Australian Footballer to reach 200 league games
Bill Wedding - Great ruckman who was known to regularly beat opponents such as Polly Farmer and John Nicholls at interstate level.
Garry McIntosh - Champion midfielder for Norwood, the last player to resist the lure of the VFL/AFL
Bill Mayman - Represented three different states, 2 x Premiership captain
Tim Evans - 2nd in all-time SANFL goalkicking (1019)
Chris McDermott - Star for Glenelg through their golden era, inaugural Crows captain. Significant charity and media work since retirement.

Gradually ticking these off