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Re: Who plays on J Brown

If we can control the midfield like last week - who cares who's on JB? It'll hardly get down there.
 

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Re: Who plays on J Brown

He kicked 6 on us last time and we belted them...

He can boot another 6 and give Bradshaw another 6 and they'll still get belted....

The game today is different to what it was last year and we are playing a different game.

Our defence is our first line of attack, if you can't run or kick the ball you don't get a gig...

we are prepared to cop 15-17 goals a game because we'll back ourselves to kick more and our first line of defence is our on ball division...

It makes no difference who you play on anyone in the forward line if the ball comes into the forward fifty with no pressure any team can spot up any forward...

Our defence now is made up of chasing , tackling and choking up the corridor/midfield and allowing the opposition shots on goal 50 out on the boundary.

Brown and Bradshaw can kick 12 between them if there good enough but it won't be enough...

Hawks by 41 points..
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

He kicked 6 on us last time and we belted them...

He can boot another 6 and give Bradshaw another 6 and they'll still get belted....

The game today is different to what it was last year and we are playing a different game.

Our defence is our first line of attack, if you can't run or kick the ball you don't get a gig...

we are prepared to cop 15-17 goals a game because we'll back ourselves to kick more and our first line of defence is our on ball division...

It makes no difference who you play on anyone in the forward line if the ball comes into the forward fifty with no pressure any team can spot up any forward...

Our defence now is made up of chasing , tackling and choking up the corridor/midfield and allowing the opposition shots on goal 50 out on the boundary.

Brown and Bradshaw can kick 12 between them if there good enough but it won't be enough...

Hawks by 41 points..
Jesus, that's confident
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

If Croad was fit and playing yes first picked every time. (as not playing who)

Can't see Gilham Murphy or Cambell Brown being able to do the job. All been very good this year but this guy is a man mountain and will eat undersized defenders.

Big Robbie Cambell has shown he can play down back and I reckon he could be a chance to do a job for us here.

Yes I know leaves Taylor to do the bulk of the ruck work.

Could see Murphy being dropped bring in Thorp to allow Roughead to do some on ball rucking around the ground.

Saw the first half of BoxHill against Casey. Thorp is a big mobile unit and IMO ready to go just needs opportunity. Can see us playing Robbie down back and when Roughy goes on ball Thorp can go forward.

Any other thoughts

If they were really keen on this approach, I'd prefer to play Murphy up forward, and keep Thorp down at Box Hill for a little while longer. I don't think he's ready.
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

Don't yell at me.. but maybe Campbell Brown?

From memory J Brown recieves most of his deliveries through on the lead passes, I think he also takes a majority of them on his chest - which would might allow Campbell to get a fist in..

I'm not sure our other defenders are quick enough.

And if we can successfully zone off Brisbane's delivery into their forward line, and allow an extra player, to help Brown in pack type deliveries where body contact is due, it might be a possibility.

Most backman loose big time if they try to match J Brown in strength and pace - because they're not athletic enough. Sooo.. take care of the pace factor - Brown and with a successful zone and conscious of playing an extra man close (midfielder or backman) we might hold him?

Or... maybe we'll just get killed! :cool:
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

Boyle if fit comes in to relieve Roughy to do some of the ruck work, to allow Robbie to play back.

ie. First set up
Robbie - Brown
Taylor - Ruck
Roughy - Forward
Boyle - Bench

Second set up
Robbie - Brown
Taylor - Bench
Roughy - Ruck
Boyle - Forward

If Boyle not fit, then possibly Dowler/Thorp to play the same role. Not exactly sure where they are both at with Box Hill as far as who is 'in front'

Gilham to start on Bradshaw, and if Brown starts to get on top of Robbie, then Gilham will have to stand Brown, and allow someone like Murphy/Campbell Brown to take Bradshaw. Will be a big game for all involved and if someone like Robbie/Gilham/Murphy steps up for the challenge, will be huge for us.

Could be an option to create Campbell Brown as the loose man around defense this week...
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

From what I've seen of Brown (which I'll admit isn't much so far this season) he isn't ripping apart games like he was when we played them late last year. He still crashes through packs, creates a contest and kicks a few, but looks quite restricted when he gets up from a contest. Haven't seem him moving sideways all that well in any of the highlights which is normally something he does quite well.

This makes the quicker, more agile, better-at-ground-level Daniel Bradshaw as much of a priority. Has been Brissie's biggest goalkicker in their last three games.

If we want to stop J Brown, stopping T Johnstone would be a good start. It seems (from watching the Bris v Coll match) that he's been instructed to kick it to brown every chance he gets. Brown kicked six in that match.
 

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Re: Who plays on J Brown

Boyle if fit comes in to relieve Roughy to do some of the ruck work, to allow Robbie to play back.

ie. First set up
Robbie - Brown
Taylor - Ruck
Roughy - Forward
Boyle - Bench

Second set up
Robbie - Brown
Taylor - Bench
Roughy - Ruck
Boyle - Forward

If Boyle not fit, then possibly Dowler/Thorp to play the same role. Not exactly sure where they are both at with Box Hill as far as who is 'in front'

Gilham to start on Bradshaw, and if Brown starts to get on top of Robbie, then Gilham will have to stand Brown, and allow someone like Murphy/Campbell Brown to take Bradshaw. Will be a big game for all involved and if someone like Robbie/Gilham/Murphy steps up for the challenge, will be huge for us.

Could be an option to create Campbell Brown as the loose man around defense this week...

Hey Kebab!

I don't ever remember Roughie training as a backman during the pre-season.. I might be and probably am wrong though. Surely if we intended Roughy to play key defensive roles he would have been tried far more than he already has.

Anyways, I think it's more important then any other game so far, that we win the midfield contest. Brisbane have a very experienced forward line on top of a great midfield. The last thing we need is a quick delivery to Brown and Bradshaw, without allowing our guys the chance to defend, our way!
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

Hey Kebab!

I don't ever remember Roughie training as a backman during the pre-season.. I might be and probably am wrong though. Surely if we intended Roughy to play key defensive roles he would have been tried far more than he already has.

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Hey, think you are wrong, but only the way you have interpreted my post. ;)

Roughy to play forward and Ruck, not back. Don't like the idea of him down there, much prefer Robbie Campbell.
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

From what I've seen of Brown (which I'll admit isn't much so far this season) he isn't ripping apart games like he was when we played them late last year. He still crashes through packs, creates a contest and kicks a few, but looks quite restricted when he gets up from a contest. Haven't seem him moving sideways all that well in any of the highlights which is normally something he does quite well.

This makes the quicker, more agile, better-at-ground-level Daniel Bradshaw as much of a priority. Has been Brissie's biggest goalkicker in their last three games.

If we want to stop J Brown, stopping T Johnstone would be a good start. It seems (from watching the Bris v Coll match) that he's been instructed to kick it to brown every chance he gets. Brown kicked six in that match.

This is why Tim Clarke will play. Did the job on the very influential Andrew McLeod and will be asked to do the same job on the midfielder thought most dangerous by Clarkson.
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

It won't matter who we put on Brown we won't stop him, but we can do several things, limit is supply and space, kick more goals than them and tag two players - Black and Johnson, maybe Power but it just depends. I have noticed with the hawks that we don't particularly pick up a player full game, often see defenders on other players, it is more of a zone or area to cover.

If Brown kicks four goals that is acceptable to us (as long as we are kicking more) I think the concern for them will be our forward line, I think Merrit will go to Roughie, Brennan to Franklin as he has the mobility to match, who will pick up williams if he plays will be a big problem for them.

Battle of the midfields, interesting to see if Charman plays, if so we will have some interesting battles between tails and charman. Sewel will have tog o and stay on Black - he is the one player that we must stop, Brown will still kick goals regardless of who we have but Black has the ability to feed it to Bradshaw and Co and rip us apart at stoppages, maybe Clarke might get a run with role again like against McLeod, won't stop him but if you can at least reduce his effectiveness we will go a long way to having a win.

Hope we do as my kids haven't seen the hawks beat the lions yet and we will be there!
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

I expect two of Brown, Murphy and Gilham to get first cracks at Brown and Bradshaw. Campbell will be given a go if one runs riot.

I posted it on another forum, but would be interested to see Hodge stand Brown, if Brown played at CHF.
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

I dont think its wise playing Croad on Brown. Croad doesnt have the match conditioning and with Browns tank it could get ugly. I say rotate Gilham and Brown dog. Brown dog to run with J Brown towards the wing and Gilham when he goes inside 50. The one area we can hurt J Brown is on the rebound. Doesnt chase out of defensive 50 and neither does Bradshaw - if Campbell can sneak a couple og goals it would be fantastic.
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

Brown to have first crack at JB in Croads absence. (no need to rush him back)
Gilham to start on Bradshaw and Murphy to Brennan.


HOWEVER I feel that Bradshaw MAY have to much class for Gilham and in this case put Brown on him and Big Robbie C to JB, With Gilham playing a chop out role.

Key midfield matchups; Clarke on Johnstone, Sewell to Black and Lewis/Ladson to Power.. stopping the delivery inside 50 will be the key.

I dunno how they have done it but they shouldnt have beaten Collingwood 2 weeks ago and how they won on the weekend has be stuffed so this is a danger game.


Should have to much run with our midfield and expect to win by 20+
 
Re: Who plays on J Brown

I am not worried about J Brown as much as i am am worried D Bradshaw, who is playing better than the big man.

S Black had 11 posie's in the last qtr.

We need to stop Black. His supply is too good.

It really is a question of killing the supply - Brown will be too good in one on one contests.
 

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