So pies gifted 8 points before the season starts by benefiting from the 2 scheduled games against Carlton, on top of 2 against the bombers , and then they still can't manage to finish ahead of Carlton come seasons end. How bad , them ?
Banter Who will be better in 2025, Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3
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Collingwood supporters around these neck of the woods -
They're up there with the British when it comes to fixturing. Do nothing but whinge
Yeah, we were a game off the pace, but then again, something tells me we would have done a little better than this:
Grade four students, please punctuate this sentence so that it makes some sense.
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Robertio
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Yeah they were the 5th best team in it, shame about the premiership.
Robertio
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Doesn't look like the final score does it? Pies fans telling half a story again.
Robertio
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Behind finishing ahead of the Pies in 2024 though.
Do you finally get that they finished 5th on the ladder?
The ladder aint the best reflection for who the best team is.
Brisbane were the best team when in counted in 2024.
And Collingwood were better than Carlton in 2024.
Pie supporters still thinking they were better in 2024
Robertio
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That makes Carlton the 3rd best team when it counted in 2023 going by what you just posted and Carlton were better than Collingwood in 2024 by about 7%.
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Mate have a bit of empathy.
When you haven't won a flag in 29 years, haven't made top 4 in 24 years but you have won 5 spoons and continually lose to your arch enemy. You take any victory you can. No matter how fake and sad that victory is. You take it and celebrate it. This is important for Carlton supporters. They need it.
Carlton have had more coaches than finals appearances this century. Think about that. Poor buggers have suffered. It's been an absolute horror show. The damage is permanent. It's transformed the club into a laughing stock. We need to be more empathetic to the psychological torment they have suffered and make allowance for it.
A bit of kindness goes a long way when dealing with traumatised people like Carlton supporters.
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Not that anybody cares who the 3rd best team was when it counted...but how do you figure that?
Baggers fell over the line against 8th (Sydney had more scoring shots) and 4th (Melbourne had morr scoring shots) and then Brisbane toyed with the Baggers and cruised to the GF.
Compare to GWS who outplayed 7th, went to Adelaide and were better than 3rd Port and then gave 1st the Pies an almighty scare in the PF.
Pretty clearly GWS were the playing the best footy of teams who missed the GF in 2023.
Good old Carlton fans continue to delude themselves
Robertio
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It's written in history and you can't change history so just suck it up.
Where is it "written in history" that Carlton were the 3rd best team when it mattered in 2023?
As the great Scritchy mentioned earlier, it really is quite sad when most of their greatest achievements of the 21st century are Fake News.Where is it "written in history" that Carlton were the 3rd best team when it mattered in 2023?
Anyone who watched the final series in 2023 walked away in the knowledge there were three genuine premiership contenders, and Carlton wasn't one of them.
Looking forward to Bert showing where it is "written in history".
Perhaps his "written in history" is quoting a Wormy post.
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Its in the thread title. "Carlton is better in 2024" and wasn't even done by a Blues fan. Sorry Pie fans, it's just official
you're in the wrong thread. This one says Carlton were better in 2024.
Carlton had the 3rd last pick of the first round of the draft that year. Why is that ?Where is it "written in history" that Carlton were the 3rd best team when it mattered in 2023?
The AFL changes methodology of draft order.
1. It is not a new ladder
2. It doesn't reflect who was best performed in September.
Carlton's draft order position was after GWS because the current draft order methodology considers the actual H&A ladder - the higher ranked H&A team gets the later draft pick. Carlton were 5th and GWS were 7th.
Surely that aint the "evidence" that Bert is running with when claiming Carlton were the 3rd best team when it mattered in 2023.
Robertio
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Making a prelim and then get handed pick 16 not enough for you, hen explain to us why another team wasn't handed pick 16.Looking forward to Bert showing where it is "written in history".
Perhaps his "written in history" is quoting a Wormy post.
Robertio
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Put it back in your pants Mabel.The AFL changes methodology of draft order.
1. It is not a new ladder
2. It doesn't reflect who was best performed in September.
Carlton's draft order position was after GWS because the current draft order methodology considers the actual H&A ladder - the higher ranked H&A team gets the later draft pick. Carlton were 5th and GWS were 7th.
Surely that aint the "evidence" that Bert is running with when claiming Carlton were the 3rd best team when it mattered in 2023.
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"Fell over the line" despite leading all game?
And "more scoring shots" lol - what even is that as evidence of anything. Finals games are often close as they were for the Pies in that entire finals series - better team still wins the game.
Carlton were clearly a top 4 team in 2023 as they made a PF. And in 2024 they were better than the Pies because they made finals (i.e., the main goal of every team at the start of a H+A season) whilst the Pies didn't.
Anything else is waffle.
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Who will be better in 2025? - that’s the question.
Lots of Carlton bums still talking about 2024.
Now, onto 2025 and Carlton already whinging about the draw….
Lots of Carlton bums still talking about 2024.
Now, onto 2025 and Carlton already whinging about the draw….
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