Who's our Coach for 2014?

[Tairy Greene]

Can't believe there's actually posters in this thread who don't want a coach who took his team to a stack of Finals series, a couple of Grand Finals for a premiership, boasts a winning percentage of over 55% & previously played for our club. Just weird.

 

[Old Den]

Weren't you calling for Voss to be sacked earlier this year?

Any prospective replacement coach will likely take into account the hiding to nothing he will be on by comparison to Voss if the team doesn't improve its ladder position in the next 2 years (and it will need at least some bolstering of KP stocks to do that)

Voss certainly would not have had a 5 year stint if he had taken the Carlton job.

 

[Tassie4ever]

Someone please feel free to correct me, but my understanding is that Roos was never available in 2014 because one or more of his kids is completing year 12 in that year. I recall him or someone else saying that he wouldn't move them from Sydney until they had completed their studies.

Call me naive but I still cling to a theory of mine expressed some time ago that we might install an interim coach [Harvey?] for the draft etc and season 2014, with Roos having an oversight role, and taking up in 2015.

Cameron's description on AFL360 a couple of weeks ago of the workload being a coach now entails- ie, a minimum of 60-70 hours per week- sticks in my mind. If Roos was in any way serious about coaching again there is no way he would accept a new gig with anything hindering him at family level.

 

[acuguy]

It was great to listen to David Koch on 360 the other evening, he spoke about choosing a coach who could teach these young players to be good footballers and good people, leaders in the community post football. Once again I think the bravest but possibly wisest decision would be to give Alan Richardson the job.

 

[Haso]

It was great to listen to David Koch on 360 the other evening, he spoke about choosing a coach who could teach these young players to be good footballers and good people, leaders in the community post football. Once again I think the bravest but possibly wisest decision would be to give Alan Richardson the job.

We'll have to get an assistant coach to teach the boys how to take a decent shirtfront, though

 

[acuguy]

How much has football changed, that was how we were all taught to play, hard at the ball and if the man got in the way-run through them, we all loved it and we all copped it regardless of the level you played at, I have a 2 lacerated quad muscles to prove it! Now Vossy would get 10 weeks for it!

 

[Big Lion]

Of some of the candidates mentioned, here is my take.

Worsha, looks tired i'm not sure he would be the best choice at present, at his peak i'd have him for sure but at present not so sure.

Choco, seems a little off centre with the way he goes about things and i'm not sure that would work with our group. Likable coach and has plenty of energy.......... but.

Eade, for mine the best of the experienced coaches available, a good teacher and knows his way around a footy field. Can pi55 players off with his tough approach but maybe thats what our players need, a good rocket!!!

Kevin Sheedy, really his best was great but his time in coaching afl ranks has passed. Really good at promoting the game though but as far as being the main coach, no.

Leigh, hard to say anything bad about him, but like Sheedy i think his coaching days are done.

The long list of assistants, well where did you start, its the great unknown but i guess you have to start somewhere.

 

[Big Lion]

How much has football changed, that was how we were all taught to play, hard at the ball and if the man got in the way-run through them, we all loved it and we all copped it regardless of the level you played at, I have a 2 lacerated quad muscles to prove it! Now Vossy would get 10 weeks for it!

I think your spot on, 10 weeks for sure.

Geez he was a tough player.

 

[barbobot]

Rodney Eade

8.00​

Adrian Fletcher

9.00​

Mark Harvey

10.00​

John Worsfold

10.00​

Scott Burns

10.00​

Mark Williams

10.00​

Paul Roos

11.00​

Justin Leppitch

12.00​

Alan Richardson

12.00​

Brett Ratten

12.00​

Dean Laidley

14.00​

Luke Power

17.00​

Adam Simpson

21.00​

Nigel Lappin

21.00​

John Blakey

21.00​

Alistair Clarkson

26.00​

Gary O'Donnell

31.00​

Neil Craig

34.00​

Matthew Primus

34.00​

Mark Thompson

34.00​

Kevin Sheedy

34.00​

Jade Rawlings

34.00​

Todd Viney

34.00​

Leigh Matthews

34.00​

Gary Ayres

34.00​

Brian Royal

34.00​

Mark Bickley

34.00​

Nathan Bassett

41.00​

Brett Kirk

41.00​

Simon Goodwin

41.00​

James Hird

41.00​

Grant Thomas

41.00​

Robert Harvey

41.00​

Gavin Brown

41.00​

Dean Bailey

41.00​

Leigh Tudor

41.00​

Craig Lambert

41.00​

Jonathan Brown

41.00​

 

[ZoBlitz]

Can't believe there's actually posters in this thread who don't want a coach who took his team to a stack of Finals series, a couple of Grand Finals for a premiership, boasts a winning percentage of over 55% & previously played for our club. Just weird.

Well he's no tom landry...

 

[Hollow Knight]

Neil Craig still bloody good money if certain rumours are true.

Well he's no tom landry...

I'll take a random guy wearing Tom Landry's hat at this stage.

 

[Bert Man]

I wouldn't mind seeing Rodney Eade or Mark Williams come up and coach for a year or two and groom Nathan Basset for the job. By all reports he has done wonders at Norwood and is ready for AFL.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I wouldn't mind seeing Rodney Eade or Mark Williams come up and coach for a year or two and groom Nathan Basset for the job. By all reports he has done wonders at Norwood and is ready for AFL.

Yeah I've mentioned my liking for Bassett as the apprentice if a succession plan goes ahead. Just needs someone to show him the AFL specific ropes for a couple of years.

 

[pulpdriver]

Are the odds for Melbourne and Brisbane's coach selection exactly the same?

 

[PertRoosOsborne]

Dean Laidley with Adam Simpson and Nigel Lappin as assistants?

Don't want Neil Craig

 

[Bert Man]

Does anyone why Adrian Fletcher is seen as a candidate?

 

[Hollow Knight]

Are the odds for Melbourne and Brisbane's coach selection exactly the same?

Roos $4 to Melbourne, $11 to us.

 

[pulpdriver]

Roos $4 to Melbourne, $11 to us.

Is that the only difference? When did Roos drop so low for the Melbourne job? After Johnson's letter?

 

[Happy_Neale]

Goodwin should be an option if we are going for the highly rated assistant option.

 

[Panthera]

No but it is a pretty big caveat to list a few names and say that signing only them would vindicate the decision to sack Voss. You'd think something like that would have come up in your repeated posts where you stated your opinion that Voss should be sacked.

Also interesting you rate him a 7/10 coach when you previously you said he was not up to scratch, that his performance/results were not acceptable, that there had not been a lot of improvement under Voss, etc.

He was a 7/10 coach...Ratten was a 7/10 coach. They had a ceiling, a relatively low one. Some players improved, some stagnated, some went backwards. In 5 years there was no recognisable gameplan. In 5 years we couldn't work out clearances. In his last 4 years, there was no finish above 10th. The trading was questionable too. The decision to move him on was correct.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Is that the only difference? When did Roos drop so low for the Melbourne job? After Johnson's letter?

Roos was at about $1.60 for us and $4.00 for Melbourne. After the letter our odds blew out massively.

 

[pulpdriver]

Roos was at about $1.60 for us and $4.00 for Melbourne. After the letter our odds blew out massively.

Makes sense but I'd say he's about as much chance to coach Melbourne as us now: bupkis. I was so optimistic (or deluded) of us getting him for a time there.

 

[Reardo]

Hey why didn't you tag me? I missed this at lunch-time.


Can just see it now…

• My game plan 'A' - based around a simple piece of sheet music.
• As you can see, I’d just have numbers around the ball and work in waves…
• 
• Looks and sounds okay to me..
• I’d also be happy to take on both coaching roles – The firsts and the ressies – mind you this would require a little fixture doctoring to ensure the playing of both the NEAFL and AFL games at the GABBA – but hey... once Barney Matthews is on the Board, the world will be my our oyster!
• AND... I’ve already got a plan 'B' - if the ground management don’t want two games played on it – then I’d play one, SIMULTANEOUSLY… Multi-ball - might need a few preseason games to test this theory, especially if we lose the toss and have the ones and the twos kicking to opposite ends.

This is absolute genius.

 

[Happy_Neale]

He was a 7/10 coach...Ratten was a 7/10 coach. They had a ceiling, a relatively low one. Some players improved, some stagnated, some went backwards. In 5 years there was no recognisable gameplan. In 5 years we couldn't work out clearances. In his last 4 years, there was no finish above 10th. The trading was questionable too. The decision to move him on was correct.

With all respect this is cliched media rhetoric. Sentences 2-5 are generic comments which could be applied to almost any coach in the league. Recognisable gameplan...give me a break. The gameplan was obvious when we were playing well however it appeared the players do not yet have the capability to sustain it for 4 quarters. IMO, a bigger weakeness of Voss was an inability to adapt said game plan during the game depending on how we were going. You also mention clearances yet make no mention of recruiting Moloney to address this.

The last part we are aware of but I notice you neglected to mention we had our best season since 2009 this year...either way, I agree with POBT in that you seem to be adding these disclaimers now that were not present in your initial assessments of Voss. I highly doubt if we asked you at the start of the year you would have rated him a 7/10 coach.

 

[Bucking Beads]

All I ask is that it isn't Neil Craig.