Why is white still used as the clash colour?

[walhawk]

For 60 years it was black short home, white shorts away. then 40 years ago we got rid of the black shorts rule, now time to remove the white shorts rule.
Given that 10 teams have some white in their jumper, and six clubs significant white, surely white is the last colour to use for shorts and clash jumpers to differentiate between clubs.
(This is aside from the fact that dressing clubs in generic, non distinct all white strips is confusing for casual fans of the sport).
Shorts and clash jumpers should be in one of the club colours.
If clubs have an overall colour clash, clubs without white should simply reverse the shorts - Tigers yellow, Hawks gold, Bombers red, etc. If that is not enough, reverse the jumper.
Why is it that the AFL says white does not clash but other colours do?
Why add white shorts to Hawthorn v Cats/Roos that are predominately white, but because WCE have a gold panel and white panel, we have to wear all white. It make no sense.
People say some of the reverse shorts combos looks bad but it just needs getting used to.
Nothing wrong with this

 

[SuperSub17]

Because the home strips of most teams have very little white.

Adelaide, Brisbane, Essendon, Hawthorn, Gold Coast, GWS, Melbourne and Richmond have absolutely no white. Carlton, Fremantle, Port, St Kilda, WB and West Coast have very little. So that only leaves Sydney whose red is pretty distinctive, Collingwood whose jumper still has more black, and Geelong and North who present the only real problems.

It's also a fairly neutral colour so it makes perfect sense.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

The problems with uniform clashes are so easy to fix.

1. Colour on front of jumper needs to match colour on the back.

2. Every team needs a home jumper which is darker and an away jumper which is light.

3. The shorts should match the jumper and not an ancient rule regarding "white shorts for away regardless of what the home team is wearing".


It's just madness. Clubs have very effective training jumpers that they use in off season practice matches. When you think purely about the function (ie to differentiate the teams) and ignore the other crap (tradition, historical rules, sponsorship demands and Eddie) you get a very simple answer to a very simple problem.

 

[mottrain]

Because the afl is surrendering due to their terrific incompetence

 

[Oxirane]

It's just madness. Clubs have very effective training jumpers that they use in off season practice matches. When you think purely about the function (ie to differentiate the teams) and ignore the other crap (tradition, historical rules, sponsorship demands and Eddie) you get a very simple answer to a very simple problem.

Teams should be able to use combinations of their regular season jumpers during intraclub matches, if they can't do that and need to use training jumpers, it means that the clash jumper is too close in colour to the normal one.

 

[LukasTheGreat]

3 Kits; Home, Away, and Clash. If the biggest Soccer clubs in the world can do it AFL clubs can aswell. I don't give a **** about your 'history'.

 

[FootyJunkie]

One coloured jumper, one white jumper... works a treat in the American leagues.

 

[The_Reaper]

We don't need white as the clash- teams just need two jumpers that don't clash with each other.

These two are perfect because between the two West Coast wouldn't clash with anyone.

http://www.footyjumpers.com/

 

[Ice-Wolf]

3 Kits; Home, Away, and Clash. If the biggest Soccer clubs in the world can do it AFL clubs can aswell. I don't give a **** about your 'history'.

Something like this?

 

[Murraj1966]

Something like this?

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Just don't even you bastard, that's too logical and awesome for the AFL.

 

[E92_]

but because WCE have a gold panel and white panel, we have to wear all white. It make no sense.

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Hawthorn need their all white strip against West Coast at home.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

They need to get the clash strips right so we don't have to see North's indigenous round jumper on more than one occasion.

 

[JackFlash]

3 Kits; Home, Away, and Clash. If the biggest Soccer clubs in the world can do it AFL clubs can aswell. I don't give a **** about your 'history'.

Soccer has nothing to do with it, those leagues don't have a traditional bone in them, it's all about marketing dollars there. Then you have the fact that there are 44 Soccer clubs in the UK Premier League/Championship before you get to the divisions, i reckon the chances of similar colours are fairly great! We have 18 teams only, we do have away strips. The AFL for some bizarre illogical reason have decided that Richmond and Port Adelaide all of a sudden look a like and that Richmond's away strip (you know the one that's been in use since 2010) is no longer acceptable because it's a god damn final! The AFL are complete idiots!

 

[JackFlash]

White clash strips are an abomination and an insult to the game. There is no good reason why teams who have no white in their normal traditional colour scheme to be wearing white at any time. Hawthorn, Melbourne Brisbane, Adelaide, West Coast, Gold Coast should not be wearing white at any time EVER!

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Hawthorn need their all white strip against West Coast at home.

Yeah. One of the few combinations that causes an issue with either jumper (Brown with Yellow or yellow with Brown), given the amount of yellow West Coast has

Reality is, for 11 home games - plus probably 4-5 "away" games, teams will wear their main jumper and the other games they will have to wear their away jumper, or failing that, their clash jumper.

Some teams (like Freo) approach it differently, i.e. we will wear our away jumper most of the time when we travel, even if our home jumper would cause no clash due to a sponsorship arrangement - it's only v Sydney, Geelong & North away that we wear our home jumper.

 

[Tulip]

As long as you can wear your home jumper at home, who cares what you wear away?

(Unless there are cartoon characters involved, they can get stuffed.)

The AFL fraternity is so far behind on these matters, it's a joke.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I think the title of this thread is misleading.

But the OP is absolutely spot on.

The white shorts away policy is a dingle berry clinging to the arse hair of the clash situation that should have been wiped away years ago.

Royal and Black don't clash. If we are playing Footscray or West Coast at Adelaide Oval, their full royal kits will do the job nicely without white shorts being required.

Similarly, Hawthorn wearing brown shorts with their home is fine, but the white shorts with their brown away is puzzling. Hawthorn absolutely do not need a white clash jumper. Simply employing gold shorts with their home guernsey occasionally and brown with their away would do the trick.


If there is any policy on shorts colour, it should be this: In the event of a clash, the shorts for both clubs must be the same colour as the predominant colour of their guernsey.

Geelong, Hawthorn and North obviously wear darker shorts with light guernseys, and would be allowed to continue to do so unless they play a team wearing an all dark strip (or royal blue strip in the case of North)

So North wear royal shorts at home unless Footscray or West Coast.

Geelong wear white shorts if playing a dark coloured team at home.

Hawthorn bring out gold shorts for home games against teams with dark guernseys and gold in them, like Adelaide, West Coast, Richmond etc.

White shorts to only ever be worn by teams that actually have a white clash strip, like Port, Freo, Footscray etc.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Hawthorn need their all white strip against West Coast at home.

Not if West Coast ditch the most clash causing guernsey in the league and go with their traditional wings, like 90% of the fanbase wants.

All royal wings vs hawthorn home + gold shorts wont clash.

 

[Sub_Zero]

White clash strips are an abomination and an insult to the game. There is no good reason why teams who have no white in their normal traditional colour scheme to be wearing white at any time. Hawthorn, Melbourne Brisbane, Adelaide, West Coast, Gold Coast should not be wearing white at any time EVER!

 

[questionable]

The problems with uniform clashes are so easy to fix.

1. Colour on front of jumper needs to match colour on the back.

2. Every team needs a home jumper which is darker and an away jumper which is light.

3. The shorts should match the jumper and not an ancient rule regarding "white shorts for away regardless of what the home team is wearing".


It's just madness. Clubs have very effective training jumpers that they use in off season practice matches. When you think purely about the function (ie to differentiate the teams) and ignore the other crap (tradition, historical rules, sponsorship demands and Eddie) you get a very simple answer to a very simple problem.

agree with this except #2. there's nothing wrong with a light home jumper like north or geelong have as long as the club is prepared to wear light-coloured shorts with it. geelong in navy shorts against carlton/port/etc is maddening to see.

to be fair to geelong, i think they actually are happy to wear white shorts but the AFL puts them in navy shorts against dark opponents sometimes for god knows what reason.

 

[hcd199]

If there is any policy on shorts colour, it should be this: In the event of a clash, the shorts for both clubs must be the same colour as the predominant colour of their guernsey.

Geelong, Hawthorn and North obviously wear darker shorts with light guernseys, and would be allowed to continue to do so unless they play a team wearing an all dark strip (or royal blue strip in the case of North)

So North wear royal shorts at home unless Footscray or West Coast.

Geelong wear white shorts if playing a dark coloured team at home.

Hawthorn bring out gold shorts for home games against teams with dark guernseys and gold in them, like Adelaide, West Coast, Richmond etc.

White shorts to only ever be worn by teams that actually have a white clash strip, like Port, Freo, Footscray etc.

This is probably the policy that would make most sense: permits teams to have a first-choice jumper/shorts combination but allows room to avoid the need for clash jumpers until they're properly needed. Blanket "white shorts away" rule does no-one any favours.

 

[edgie]

This light and dark policy is BS, it should be based on contrast

 

[SJ]

For some reason the shorts are more sacrosanct than the guernsey.

 

[JuddsABlue]

White shorts are really stupid from kits without white and adopting a colored short would go a long way for clashing

I hate the idea of a club like Richmond or Essendon have a white strip, it's just not their jumper

I just don't think they've been creative enough with the current colors to get it right yet

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Soccer has nothing to do with it, those leagues don't have a traditional bone in them, it's all about marketing dollars there. Then you have the fact that there are 44 Soccer clubs in the UK Premier League/Championship before you get to the divisions, i reckon the chances of similar colours are fairly great! We have 18 teams only, we do have away strips. The AFL for some bizarre illogical reason have decided that Richmond and Port Adelaide all of a sudden look a like and that Richmond's away strip (you know the one that's been in use since 2010) is no longer acceptable because it's a god damn final! The AFL are complete idiots!

They have been wearing Clash kits since the 1940's and saying that they dont have a traditional bone in them is just stupid.

Photo Evidence Manchester United wearing blue in 1968.