You make it up as you go along. If Goodes is slightly late to the contest and makes contact with the player then he is a dirty sniper. If Goodes is slightly late to the contest then decides to pull out he is scared.
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Will Goodes and Buchanan get busted for their head high hits ?
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You make it up as you go along. If Goodes is slightly late to the contest and makes contact with the player then he is a dirty sniper. If Goodes is slightly late to the contest then decides to pull out he is scared.
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Goodes nearly got Franklin, very similar to his hit on Selwood. Then he nearly got Ellis, who was always going in for that ball low. I'd ask what was Goodes doing that he needed to 'pull out' of. Bloody lucky (for both him and Ellis) that Ellis ducked his head down.
There was also an incident where Goodes was really late into a marking contest, saw he had no play at the ball, so tucked up and hit a Hawk flush in the back. Fairly minor contact, certainly less than what Campbell Brown got suspended for earlier this season. Similar incident though.
Has Goodes learned to play this way because of leniency at the tribunal, or is he just a weak sniping dog by nature?
*edit: or is he scared? Didn't think of that one, Chewy. Interesting.
skipper kelly: the incident where Goodes 'pulled out' is the one Ellis avoided by ducking his head, isn't it?
There was also an incident where Goodes was really late into a marking contest, saw he had no play at the ball, so tucked up and hit a Hawk flush in the back. Fairly minor contact, certainly less than what Campbell Brown got suspended for earlier this season. Similar incident though.
Has Goodes learned to play this way because of leniency at the tribunal, or is he just a weak sniping dog by nature?
*edit: or is he scared? Didn't think of that one, Chewy. Interesting.
skipper kelly: the incident where Goodes 'pulled out' is the one Ellis avoided by ducking his head, isn't it?
Pulled out?
He missed, he would have been in huge trouble if connected.
Players head of the ball, him charging in at pace to bump.
He missed.
So you didn't watch the matchFunny thread.
Obviously we can make up anything we like and start a thread about it.
Great work chaps.
. Just to let you know Amon hit Hodge high while he had his head over the ball. He will be charged and found guilty with "Bumping or making forceful contact to an opponent from front-on when that player has his head down over the ball" The points for this are:
Level one 125 points
Level two 250 points
Level three 400 points
Level four 550 points
Level five 750 points
My guess it could be graded as head high, high impact, reckless which is level 4. The variables are whether they judge it high impact/medium and the old favorite reckless/negligent. If they decide medium contact and negligent he'll only get level 2.
As for Goodes, he's very lucky both the ellis and franklin charges didn't connect. You may have missed them but his teamates and roosy didn't.
So you didn't watch the match
The points for this are:
Level one 125 points
Level two 250 points
Level three 400 points
Level four 550 points
Level five 750 points
My guess it could be graded as head high, high impact, reckless which is level 4. The variables are whether they judge it high impact/medium and the old favorite reckless/negligent. If they decide medium contact and negligent he'll only get level 2..
derrrrrrrrr. thanks einstein.
As for Goodes, he's very lucky both the ellis and franklin charges didn't connect. You may have missed them but his teamates and roosy didn't.
You know what his team mates said to him?? Please share. Then tell me what "head high hits" Goodes was involved in.
both jolly and kirk pulled him up to have a chat, as did the ump. what they said I don't know but you don't have to be einstein..derrrrrrrrr. thanks einstein.
As for Goodes, he's very lucky both the ellis and franklin charges didn't connect. You may have missed them but his teamates and roosy didn't.
You know what his team mates said to him?? Please share. Then tell me what "head high hits" Goodes was involved in.
so are people still making up stuff about amon??
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Late to a contest? Who said that? They are your words, not mine.
I don't think Goodes is a dirty sniper. I think he does not always relish the physical contest. This causes him to take his eye off the ball sometimes and play the man instead. The guys who aren't scared, they don't give a f**k. They just charge in, win the ball, get hit, do the hitting, whatever... Goodes often seems to look first, then brace himself and bump his opponents, this is why he getting into trouble.
Twice against Hawthorn, the ball was there to be won between Goodes and Ellis. The first time, Ellis was slightly closer to the ball and Goodes saw him all the way, braced himself and tried to bump Ellis and missed his head by millimetres. The second time, he didn't see Ellis until the last second and absolutely shat himself when he did. Watch the replay. He looked like a big, skittish, Great Dane pup that gets a fright and jumps one metre sideways.
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i would agree with a lot of that, goodes i think does not like the physical stuff that much and a lot of his troubles this year are trying to over compensate i think, and act tough. its not natural for him, bit like lloyd throwing his weight around
and that second time Ellis got a free for no reason
Mate. Amon was clear as day. Should get 2 weeks.
That a thread is allowed to remain on BF stating "Will Goodes and Buchanan get busted for their head high hits "? just shows what a complete trollfest this place has turned into. The OP is a known Swans stalker and troll.
Whether or not Goodes pulled out or missed has nothing to do with it. The point is the thread states head high hit when everyone who saw it knows this is not the case.
One of your fellow Hawks supporters showed the mentality of many supporters. Goodes has approx 10 - 15 % more contested possessions than 2 of your guns, Mitchell and Hodge. (Yes they are both guns and hard at the contest players). Now we have a player, Goodes, who goes 100% towards every contest. Many he wins as he is first to the ball. Sometimes he isnt quite 1st to the ball and has been pulled up for this. The situation arose on Sunday when on at least 2 occasions Goodes was going to be 2 to the contest so he stopped and avoided contact. Then he is called scared by some halfwit.
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If the MRP was consistent, Buchanan should probably get 4 or 5.
Hodge's head was down over the ball and Buchanan lined him and connected right on the button. It was pretty massive hit. It was much, much worse than Brett Burton's or Beau Waters' soft, head-high bumps from earlier this season.
Hodge was definitely shaken up and hurt. But to his credit, he came back, played okay and shook hands with Buchanan afterwards and seemed to laugh about it and say, "No hard feelings"
But there is no doubt in my mind, the farcical MRP will only give Bucahanan a couple of weeks.
Hodge's head was down over the ball and Buchanan lined him and connected right on the button. It was pretty massive hit. It was much, much worse than Brett Burton's or Beau Waters' soft, head-high bumps from earlier this season.
Hodge was definitely shaken up and hurt. But to his credit, he came back, played okay and shook hands with Buchanan afterwards and seemed to laugh about it and say, "No hard feelings"
But there is no doubt in my mind, the farcical MRP will only give Bucahanan a couple of weeks.
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Sometimes he isnt quite 1st to the ball and has been pulled up for this. The situation arose on Sunday when on at least 2 occasions Goodes was going to be 2 to the contest so he stopped and avoided contact. Then he is called scared by some halfwit.
Are you having a lend, or are you just a totally blinkered, biased Sydney fan?
Goodes does not get pulled up for being second to a contest, he gets pulled up* for connecting his hip into people's heads.
I would like for you to have a real close look the Ellis bump again, and then come back and explain to me how exactly Goodes stopped and avoided contact. If you are capable of an unbiased look at that replay, I think even you will agree that you are speaking rubbish in the above post.
*should read: has recently started being pulled up
Mate. Amon was clear as day. Should get 2 weeks.
That a thread is allowed to remain on BF stating "Will Goodes and Buchanan get busted for their head high hits "? just shows what a complete trollfest this place has turned into. The OP is a known Swans stalker and troll.
Whether or not Goodes pulled out or missed has nothing to do with it. The point is the thread states head high hit when everyone who saw it knows this is not the case.
One of your fellow Hawks supporters showed the mentality of many supporters. Goodes has approx 10 - 15 % more contested possessions than 2 of your guns, Mitchell and Hodge. (Yes they are both guns and hard at the contest players). Now we have a player, Goodes, who goes 100% towards every contest. Many he wins as he is first to the ball. Sometimes he isnt quite 1st to the ball and has been pulled up for this. The situation arose on Sunday when on at least 2 occasions Goodes was going to be 2 to the contest so he stopped and avoided contact. Then he is called scared by some halfwit.
yea fair enuf re goodes and the title OP. And for the record I don't think goodes is soft or scared. He isn't a naturally physical player, just has the size that makes you think he could be and for some reason over the last couple of years is trying to be intimidating and its just not his game.
don't know whats happning at the swans but is Roo's starting to lose his ability to get thru to the senior players such as Hall, Davis & Goodes
I think the point is goodes has ellis to thank that he playing for the next month because if he had the awareness of a kosi he wouldn't have ducked and goodes would have got him on the top of the head.
Davis' problems are far beyond anything Paul Roos can say.
Hall, well he is always on the edge. Every game I sit there and cringe when Hall is getting upset. Archer best summed this up on Footy Classified last week. There are many like Hall. Brown yesterday could have easily lost the plot. I was glad he didnt, he is a great player. I dont think it would be too far off the mark to suggest he suffers from a similar thing as Hall and as Archer described.
Goodes, well, Im not sure but quite frankly there was absolutely nothing in it yesterday. Its just the over analysis and genuine online trolling that makes these things an issue.
But you could be right. No coach is perfect and Im sure players get sick of hearing the same voice and same message over and over. Who knows?
I do know that a loss to Hawthorn isnt the end of the season as some seem to be implying.
A player that is scared doesnt win contested possessions. Maybe in your world they do. So who knows.
Heard Cam Brown on radio this morning, he said he's glad they dont have a phsyc evaluation at the hawks, or he'd never get a game!
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