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Will the AFL cooperate with FFA for World Cup bid?
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I agree, I don't even think it's a question of will the AFL cooperate, they just will.
Unless they want to suspend all relations with the federal govt for the next 50 years.
Will the AFL cooperate with FFA for the 2015 Asian Cup bid?
Should be the real question ...
2018 World Cup is pie in the sky stuff and a total utter complete waste of $10 million taxpayers money
The next time to World Cup comes to this timezone it will be in China (most likely in 2022 after England 2018) ruling out any Australian hosting another 20 years after that
More chance of another Olympics coming here before a World Cup
Should be the real question ...
2018 World Cup is pie in the sky stuff and a total utter complete waste of $10 million taxpayers money
The next time to World Cup comes to this timezone it will be in China (most likely in 2022 after England 2018) ruling out any Australian hosting another 20 years after that
More chance of another Olympics coming here before a World Cup
tigerdan
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1. We've already hosted the olypmics twice, if the whole point of hosting it is for a pissing contest then you've lost me already.
2. But not in this country - maybe it would be better to hold it in a country more deserving?
3. Clearly not the case, and even if it was, not a logical reason to have it.
4. Agree - for 5 weeks, just like the Sydney Olympics
5. Plenty of ways to etch yourself into history, and not a valid reason for trying to host it.
6. This is not communist Russia. Think about it.
7. Stupid argument.
If soccer australia really wants to get contracts nailed then they should propose to build tailored stadia for soccer, not converted ones. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, there would probably be broad support for it and this whole dilemma would go away. The established codes would shedule how they want (which may or may not involve postponing the season), at their own grounds.
In any case, it's not gonna happen. Same reason why Tassie isn't gonna get a relocated team. There are bigger fish to fry. Sorry.
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That's the problem though isn't it? FIFA won't allow AFL supporters to enjoy their type of football, instead they come in with demands that it be shut down so they can force their type of football down everyone's throats. FIFA are as much at fault in believing that their game is more important as the AFL are (and in this country, right now, the AFL is a lot more important to a lot more people).
tigerdan
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Do you rent your house?
How would you feel if you got told that you had to share it with somone for 5 weeks? You sign a contract specifically to avoid this kind of scenario.
The governmnet might be able to force the AFL out (is the same way you can have your house compulsorily acquired), but it would cost a pretty penny to do it. And they'd have to do it with the NRL too. Do you reckon FIFA would go for that? Commit to the world cup in Australia when there are question marks over every single stadium?
Besides, rectangular games on oval grounds make for a crap spectacle, no matter how you try to slice it. Spend a fortune on a purpose built ground and I would give tacit approval. Would still think there'd be buckley's chance of it happening though.
2.- It could be by 2018 the way it is going.
Bigger fish to fry? You are having a laugh. There is not a chance on earth that if we won the World Cup hosting the AFL can stand in the way.
The World Cup is much bigger than the Olympics too...your points are just ignorant and close-minded. The fact that you can compare the BEST sporting event on the earth to an AFL team in Tasmania is frankly, ridiculous.
tigerdan
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Let me spell it out for you.
Australia has a small population. It is a trivial 'frontier' for soccer. The bigger fish to fry are in Asia. This is exactly why the world cup is going to South Africa.
So in my analogy, Tassie is Australia and Asia is 'western sydney'
You are the one with the closed mind. Particularly that you have to use BEST in capitals to describe something that is clearly open to personal preference.
Now if you'd like to respond, go right ahead. But your puerile arguments have been demolished and I expect you to resort to the straw man principle.
The AFL and NRL will comply because it would be political suicide not to and they will be compensated very handsomely.
The AFL will benefit stadium wise.
The AFL will benefit stadium wise.
BEST is according the the majority of the world's population- but obviously you know better than that.
Demolished? Your very first reply to any of my points made not one sufficient argument.
I'm glad your idea of demolished is so simple and basic, similar it seems to your thought process.
Ironically the C stands for cricket but it is the football codes that stuffed it up by forcing them to put in drop-in pitches.
If it means putting the comp on hold for 5 weeks, no chance.
I doubt the AFL would actually stand against it, but nor would they assist a rival code - especially in a way that would ensure that code's threat became reality.
I don't think FIFA would give the game to Australia; or that we have the population to handle the WC anyway. Especially under FIFA's current rules where no city can have more than one stadium.
The only reason Australia would be considered is that our time zones are a reasonable fit with the Chinese TV market, and China aren't yet a country that tend to qualify (nor is Australia as yet, but at least that might be changing over the next couple of WCs).
I doubt the AFL would actually stand against it, but nor would they assist a rival code - especially in a way that would ensure that code's threat became reality.
I don't think FIFA would give the game to Australia; or that we have the population to handle the WC anyway. Especially under FIFA's current rules where no city can have more than one stadium.
The only reason Australia would be considered is that our time zones are a reasonable fit with the Chinese TV market, and China aren't yet a country that tend to qualify (nor is Australia as yet, but at least that might be changing over the next couple of WCs).
Swans_Fan_089
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A couple of points that need adressing -
- the MCG is irrelevent because it has already been rejected as a possible venue for not meeting FIFA stadium requirements becuase spectators are more than 190m aaway from the action in some areas
- the AFL and NRL would have to suspend their seasons for 8 weeks because FIFA requires the playing surfaces to be unused for 4 weeks prior to the tournament.
- The AFL and NRL will have no say in the above matter as FIFA and the Government will flick them away like an ant. If the AFL or NRL are stupid enough to continue play during the tournament they will have to play at regional grounds or the MCG as it will be available.
SO bring on not just the worlds biggest sporting event but the worlds biggest event. I would love to have it in Oz
- the MCG is irrelevent because it has already been rejected as a possible venue for not meeting FIFA stadium requirements becuase spectators are more than 190m aaway from the action in some areas
- the AFL and NRL would have to suspend their seasons for 8 weeks because FIFA requires the playing surfaces to be unused for 4 weeks prior to the tournament.
- The AFL and NRL will have no say in the above matter as FIFA and the Government will flick them away like an ant. If the AFL or NRL are stupid enough to continue play during the tournament they will have to play at regional grounds or the MCG as it will be available.
SO bring on not just the worlds biggest sporting event but the worlds biggest event. I would love to have it in Oz
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hopefully by 2018 you have caught up to the rest of us.
TARRANTLESS
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Wrong . . . the last MCG seat is within 190m of the corner flag.
Regardless, the last 2 WC final host venues (Berlin and Yokohama) both fail FIFA's own guidelines yet were allowed to host the main match.
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If the MCG does not meet FIFA requirements, then why was it able to host two FIFA-sanctioned World Cup Qualifiers? Not to mention other FIFA-sanctioned friendles (France, Greece, Argentina). The corners are well within 190m of the crowd and even so... if Australia was given the Cup, I'm sure we could spend the time and money to reconfigure pitch-side seating for the tournament.
I think one thing you've got to remember is that unlike the IOC, FIFA is very much dominated by Europe and South America, and their representatives would be telling FIFA in no uncertain terms 'don't give the World Cup to Australia'. Which means that no matter how hard the Federal Government and FFA lobby FIFA, Australia won't stand a chance, not with the Europe/South America bloc that is control of FIFA. I reckon England would be the standout favourite for the 2018 World Cup bid. If China can pull off a very good Olympics, don't be surprised to see China stage a bid for the 2018 World Cup as well. The only hope the region has of getting a World Cup is that if Australia & NZ mounted a joint bid, on behalf of the Asian/Oceania region. Australia could offload some World Cup games to NZ in return for NZ support for the bid. But that would be unlikely, in view of what happened with the 2003 Rugby World Cup fiasco.
That would be very UnAustralian
This is all a bit pointless really, if it was the 2022 cup then yeah we'd have a decent shot, but I cant see a european country not getting it, 3 consecutive world cups not in europe? It aint going to happen (this was the whole reason why they scrapped the rotation policy in the first place, africa finally got its world cup so its job was done).
The soccer can **** off.
That's the only hurdle that's stands between Australia snaring the 2018 World Cup-the powerful Europe/South America bloc within the FIFA orgainisation. Lobbying Sepp Blatter (FIFA President) might be one thing, but trying to get the Europe/South America bloc to vote for Australia would be another thing altogether.
Well that added a lot to the discussion
This board can only get better with quality posts like that.Seriously what are you like 5?
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