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Playing on edge, this is the unfortunate outcome at times. Has looked comfortable again with his role.
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Glances the chin and then hits the shoulder.
I don't think there's any confusion that he actually hit him. The reaction does look a bit odd and delayed but he definitely got clocked.
What I don't agree with is it being rated as severe.
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I think it’s sad that this sort of incident is now worth 3 weeks in modern footy. I understand protecting the head, but too many good players are missing games for nothing incidents.
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Particularly if they don't play for big Vic clubs.
He got 2 weeks because of a reckless sling tackle that didn't cause concussion. The Richmond player that did the same tackle but concussed the crows player received 4 weeks.
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Mate if you think they are the same tackle I don’t think this discussion is going to go anywhere. One was a pick up and dump after rotating him 360 degrees over the boundary line. One was taking a guy to ground where if he didn’t he would have gotten a shot on goal off.
Looked on Kayo?
I reckon his wrist hits him on the face or chin and then shoulder. There's a small initial movement of the head as his hand passes, then then weird whiplash movement later.
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Now that it's been mentioned, I think it is clear that he clipped Finlayson first and that is what caused his weird spinning leap.
Be interesting if he testifies at the tribunal stating this.
Be interesting if he testifies at the tribunal stating this.
You'd have to be living under a rock to not understand how the AFL now views and punishes reckless incidents that result in concussion.
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I do understand, and I can see how Rioli gets suspended even though I don’t agree with it. But severe impact just doesn’t pass the eye test in this instance. Not when compared to other incidents this year. It can’t always be outcome based when there is no intent there.
Ther is no doubt he clips him. But that contact is not enough to concuss a butterfly! I reckon the violent swing around is a clear dive by the player, who then gives himself concussion when his chin hits the ground! He has to have a glass jaw this boy, because there looks nothing in that!
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Rioli is going to get 3 weeks because Ridley is concussion prone, basically.
There would have been 50 incidents in that game where more forceful contact was made to someone's head without a concussion. Our best bet to argue is that it wasn't a strike, just an unfortunate football collision.
Wasn't bumping, wasn't striking, was running between 2 players, arguably bounced off Finlayson and his trailing arm incidentally clipped Ridley.
Even if you say a trailing arm is a strike, severe impact is an absolutely insane grading given what actually occurred. We should be fighting it both on the fact that it was a strike at all, and then also the severity.
There would have been 50 incidents in that game where more forceful contact was made to someone's head without a concussion. Our best bet to argue is that it wasn't a strike, just an unfortunate football collision.
Wasn't bumping, wasn't striking, was running between 2 players, arguably bounced off Finlayson and his trailing arm incidentally clipped Ridley.
Even if you say a trailing arm is a strike, severe impact is an absolutely insane grading given what actually occurred. We should be fighting it both on the fact that it was a strike at all, and then also the severity.
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That's how it looks to me. It's the only thing that explains all the strange elements of this.
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Its not overly reckless, its not malicious, its not a huge impact, its an unlucky incident for both players (and for some perspective its more unlucky for Ridley than Rioli).
But as unfortunate as it is, you concuss someone off the ball with high contact you're getting weeks, because concussion has to be stamped out. 3 is about right.
Its just the game now. If Shiel or Butters had been unlucky with their bumps they would have been getting weeks too. Its not about intent or action, its about outcome.
But as unfortunate as it is, you concuss someone off the ball with high contact you're getting weeks, because concussion has to be stamped out. 3 is about right.
Its just the game now. If Shiel or Butters had been unlucky with their bumps they would have been getting weeks too. Its not about intent or action, its about outcome.
This explains it better. Arguably Ridley shouldnt be playing footy for his own protection. Gets concussed extremely easily:
www.afl.com.au
Ridley out of game with concussion
Jordan Ridley has been subbed out of the game with concussion after copping this accidental elbow from Eric Hipwood
www.afl.com.au
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It’s rated as severe because he was concussed.
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No shit Sherlock. The point has been made that there isn't a distinction between a mild concussion and something much worse like dislodging teeth.
They should change the chart to say ‘outcome of impact’ not ‘impact’ - because that’s not a severe impact.
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Hardly anything in that either?
How does the AFL deal with easy concussions? I mean should players be putting themselves out there?
This explains it better. Arguably Ridley shouldnt be playing footy for his own protection. Gets concussed extremely easily:
Ridley out of game with concussion
Jordan Ridley has been subbed out of the game with concussion after copping this accidental elbow from Eric Hipwood
Hardly anything in that either?
How does the AFL deal with easy concussions? I mean should players be putting themselves out there?
Yep Ridley seems to have serious problems. Feel bad for him as have always liked him as a player.
Also on another note, another issue here is Finlayson actually changes Riolis path.
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Don't think that will matter as the swinging arm will still be deemed careless. They need to focus on the severity.
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Ridley should be kicked out of the AFL of he gets concussed so easy another lawsuit waiting to happen in 10 years time .m
Imagine he he actually ment to smack him he'd die
Imagine he he actually ment to smack him he'd die
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What exactly is it that's being 'stamped out' in this instance?
What behaviour is being punished?
What does Rioli learn from this?
There's nothing they can point to except accidental contact with another players face that caused concussion. Even that's being generous because the secondary impact his face has with the ground is a much more likely cause of his concussion, but it's not even being discussed.
