Wish Tambling would compare himself honestly with Cyril Rioli

[1980GFVideo]

Its unfair for Tambling to feel he needs to be compared to Buddy but do you guys think that he should be stung a bit looking at Cyril Rioli.

Small light looking bloke who can stand up in tough games like that. It would be a meaningful comparison for improvement. Nice little gee up to to sit down and take a look at a first year player as a comparison.

Boy im sicking of watching other teams in finals. Most dissatisfying finals series ever.

 

[TigersDoSomething]

Yeah me too. I watched the Overnight footy marathon just to get a glimpse of the Tigers of old in the finals... sad...

 

[cormick]

Gees, hes a jet that kid, isn't he.
And to think we chose Cotchin over him

 

[Terry Tan]

Tambling better pull his finger out next year or he won't be around much longer.

Tambling was pick 4, Rioli was pick 12. Tambling's been in the system for 4 years now, Rioli 1 year. I know which one is a star and which one is not.

 

[The Dice Man]

Unfair comparison.

Rioli is alot stronger upper body wise. RIloli is a Fwd, Tambling a midfielder.


Id take Tambling anyday over Rioli. Tambling offers alot more across the board. Rioli offers fierce tackling, and thats about it.

 

[cormick]

Tambling better pull his finger out next year or he won't be around much longer.

Tambling was pick 4, Rioli was pick 12. Tambling's been in the system for 4 years now, Rioli 1 year. I know which one is a star and which one is not.

Andrew Walker was a pick 2, Will Thursfield/Kel Moore/Nath Foley were rookie picks, I know who I'd prefer.

Josh Fraser was a pick 1, Dean Cox was a rookie pick...I know who I'd prefer...

etc etc etc.

Stupid to compare players from different drafts as to how theyre going early in there careers.
Especially when one is a midfielder and one a crumbing forward.

Though Tambling ought pull his finger out soon, I agree with that.

 

[chrisjie]

Gees, hes a jet that kid, isn't he.
And to think we chose Cotchin over him

Put Rioli in our side and he'd die.

Players like Rioli flourish in good sides.

Cotchin/Tambling are trying ot be midfielders.

 

[Terry Tan]

Rioli has the talent to become a quality midfielder.

His skills are sublime.

As much as I hate to say it, hats off to the Hawks recruiting, coaching and development - it has been awesome.

And seriously, Tambling better start pulling his finger out. We've invested a lot in him for little return...so far.

 

[cormick]

Put Rioli in our side and he'd die.

Players like Rioli flourish in good sides.

Cotchin/Tambling are trying ot be midfielders.

Nah, I reckon he'd do orright.
Obviously Cotchin is ...well... something special

 

[richoatthedisco]

I hate to say it but if we'd chosen Buddy instead of Tambling we'd have Rioli instead of Cotchin.

 

[cormick]

I hate to say it but if we'd chosen Buddy instead of Tambling we'd have Rioli instead of Cotchin.

Who knows, who cares.
We've got what we've got, live with it and look forward to next year.
you've got a whole pre season to whinge

 

[Tiger Lover]

Unfair comparison.

Rioli is alot stronger upper body wise. RIloli is a Fwd, Tambling a midfielder.


Id take Tambling anyday over Rioli. Tambling offers alot more across the board. Rioli offers fierce tackling, and thats about it.

From what you have seen so far you will have Tambling over Cyril? Ya gotta be joken what Cyril has served up this year Richie hasn't managed half of the magic Cyril has dished out. A load of baloney about one is forward and the other a mid, they are both about the same frame and size, just face the facts buddy the Tigers have burnt their fingers over this one.

The only thing Tambling has over Cyril is that he has more experience with physcologists.

 

[cormick]

From what you have seen so far you will have Tambling over Cyril? Ya gotta be joken what Cyril has served up this year Richie hasn't managed half of the magic Cyril has dished out. A load of baloney about one is forward and the other a mid, they are both about the same frame and size, just face the facts buddy the Tigers have burnt their fingers over this one.

The only thing Tambling has over Cyril is that he has more experience with physcologists.

How the hell did we "burn our fingers" over this one?
Would you prefer us to hav taken Cyril over Cotchin?
Cos' that was the only way we could get him.

I don't recall any opportunity for us to take Rioli instead of Tambling...?

 

[bigstyletiger]

Rioli has the talent to become a quality midfielder.

His skills are sublime.

As much as I hate to say it, hats off to the Hawks recruiting, coaching and development - it has been awesome.

And seriously, Tambling better start pulling his finger out. We've invested a lot in him for little return...so far.

Yeah the Hawks made some good calls but they had a massive amount of luck.

Freo trade pick 1 for McPharlin and Croad. Hodge is a Norm Smith medalist

Hawks traded Rawlings (dud) with one good season to a desperate dogs for an inflated pick

Trade Hays to North again for an inflated pick

Trade Thompson to North for probably a justified pick but he's gone.

Hawks also made some recruiting blunders - favouring tall forwards has cost them some early picks. Thorpe - where is he. Dowler - same goes for him?

Hawks also drafted two kids after knee recos at relatively high picks which have not worked out in Muston and Bailey.

Compare this to us. The only tradeable blokes of worth on our list a few years ago were untoucable due to family connections - Richo and Bowden.

or were traded out - Ottens
and Fiora was used to get Simmonds. Fair deal.

I would take my hats off to them for two reasons.

1 - they were bold in their trades
2 - they had a plan and they stuck to it. if they can get something for Dowler they're obsession with tall forwards may be justified.
3 - they kept Freo on their knees
4 - it was about time all those sleepy hollow cats supporters got a rocket up their arrogant...

 

[bigstyletiger]

And on the subject of Tambling and Rioli.

1. Rioli is a gun and I would love to have him on our list. I worked with his dad for a while and am just stoked to see him do well. Good on you Junior.

2. Tambling will be a quality footballer if he can get stronger. He has many comparable attributes to Gary Ablett junior. Big call i know but consider this.
- Garry took a while to come on. He is 24 and really only played his first A grade season last year.
- He has a very very similar sidestep to Garry which he uses with greater and greater effect. Much like Gary. Although Gary's was sublime today.
- he has similar accelaration from a standing start.
- his kicking action and ability is quite similar. You don't see Gary spear passes. he prefers to guide them. similar to tambling.

I realise that they are still a long way apart but the development curve is and skill sets are similar.

Dunstall has said on record that he believes Tambling can win a brownlow. I don't think it is likely but if he continues to develop he certainly could. He is only 21! and a little faith can't go astray.

Don't worry about Rioli. The bloke Tambling should be watching is Ablett. Stuff Franklin. I just hope the club are pumping this kid up and giving him the self belief to fulfill his obvious talent. If we had taken Buddy the Hawks would undoutedly have taken Tambling.

 

[tigersfan11]

I honestly think he should be compared to Varcoe.

Very very similiar players and if Tambling was playing for Geelong he would be doing better than Varcoe!

Everyones thoughts?

 

[cormick]

And on the subject of Tambling and Rioli.

1. Rioli is a gun and I would love to have him on our list. I worked with his dad for a while and am just stoked to see him do well. Good on you Junior.

2. Tambling will be a quality footballer if he can get stronger. He has many comparable attributes to Gary Ablett junior. Big call i know but consider this.
- Garry took a while to come on. He is 24 and really only played his first A grade season last year.
- He has a very very similar sidestep to Garry which he uses with greater and greater effect. Much like Gary. Although Gary's was sublime today.
- he has similar accelaration from a standing start.
- his kicking action and ability is quite similar. You don't see Gary spear passes. he prefers to guide them. similar to tambling.

I realise that they are still a long way apart but the development curve is and skill sets are similar.

Dunstall has said on record that he believes Tambling can win a brownlow. I don't think it is likely but if he continues to develop he certainly could. He is only 21! and a little faith can't go astray.

I agree so much and have thought this for quite a while, just didnt have the balls to put it up on BF.
Kudos.

Tambling also has a good kick despite not showing it consistently recently, as Ablett did early on.
And Tambling shows flashes of brilliance like Ablett did.
Imagine that- 2012 brownlow, red hot favorite Tambling misses out, but then wins the premiership by a record margin

 

[CrazyQ]

Unfair comparison.

Rioli is alot stronger upper body wise. RIloli is a Fwd, Tambling a midfielder.


Id take Tambling anyday over Rioli. Tambling offers alot more across the board. Rioli offers fierce tackling, and thats about it.

Are you serious?

I like Tambling, probably the only bloke besides Richmond fans, but Cyril has one of the best left foot kicks you'll see, his vision is magnificent, his balance and agility is quality, he kicks goals, takes strong marks and best of all, he is not a forward, he's a midfielder waiting his turn.

I think he's a better package than Tambling, and I'd definitely take him ahead of Tambling, but I also think Tambling will come good.

 

[RichotheGreat]

its time to admit we fuked up with tambling............
im actually kinda sick of talking bout him cuz it gets me angry.
i wouldnt be against trading him if it was for a good cause.
they say aboriginal boys take a little longer...... umm hello rioli!
1st year and he already beta than wat tambling wil ever be.

maybe im just cranky cuz the dawks won.

 

[deliberate!!]

its time to admit we fuked up with tambling............
im actually kinda sick of talking bout him cuz it gets me angry.
i wouldnt be against trading him if it was for a good cause.
they say aboriginal boys take a little longer...... umm hello rioli!
1st year and he already beta than wat tambling wil ever be.

maybe im just cranky cuz the dawks won.

People here know I think Tambling is one of the biggest duds at the club.
But I want to give everyone a chance in 2009.
But 2009 has to be the year of 'NO EXCUSES' (Coaching, team position or players)

We make the eight, Tambling (and others step up) or we take drastic actions to prune away the rubbish, keeping only those that perform and better the Richmond Football Club. If you've also living in the 'Burgers' and wasting our time.....you're out too!

We cannot take any other route to success in 2009.
We cannot be a nursery for underperforming players and squads.

And a good call on this thread's topic.
Why not compare Tambling to Rioli? No excuses.
Why not?
Hawthorn have no excuses for Rioli. Why do we always cover Tambling's ass?

 

[Top_4_Tiger]

Great post Del, I think that is a fantastic attitude to carry into next year - give everyone a fresh start to change your opinion, but if they let you down again you'll come down harder than ever

It means you're willing to support a bunch of players you have previously bagged, which means deep down you think a few of them will come good

 

[deliberate!!]

Great post Del, I think that is a fantastic attitude to carry into next year - give everyone a fresh start to change your opinion, but if they let you down again you'll come down harder than ever

It means you're willing to support a bunch of players you have previously bagged, which means deep down you think a few of them will come good

Ah ha....and that's where you are wrong.
It's not that I'm giving players that I think aren't up to it, time to come good.
(Nice try on attributing thoughts to me, I don't have.)

It's that I'm giving everyone more time, because I'm trying to fit in with slow football brains here and at the club who can't make a judgement call early.
I've made a call on a player, copped a lot of shit when I first raised the suspect career of Tambling (my 'Smoke and Mirrors' Thread irritated 99% of Tambling supporters here)....so now I'll just sit back and wait till the results of such duds is soooooooo obvious that even a thickhead could see it.
Some people need to be hit by a train before the know it's in the vicinity.

You want another year till you finally see we are wasting our time on Tambling.....you've got it. Another wasted year.

It's just ironic Hawthorn didn't expect Rioli to start performing to a high standard after 70+ Senior games. It's obvious Hawthorn's expectation and standards are higher than ours. It's also obvious Hawthorn don't accept excuses. That's how you win a Flag.

 

[Par4]

Unfair comparison.

Rioli is alot stronger upper body wise. RIloli is a Fwd, Tambling a midfielder.


Id take Tambling anyday over Rioli. Tambling offers alot more across the board. Rioli offers fierce tackling, and thats about it.

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Oh, you're serious?

 

[Goldust]

Put Rioli in our side and he'd die.

Players like Rioli flourish in good sides.

Cotchin/Tambling are trying ot be midfielders.

Tambling was drafted into the 16th placed team of the time, which was largely bereft of talent.
Rioli was drafted into a team that played finals last year and we all knew would be a flag contender.
I know which situation I would like.

A question: Why wasn't this thread posted weeks ago when we kicked the Hawks butts at the MCG??????????

 

[Checkers]

Because they are both Aboriginal?

I love Rioli and he is probably my favourite player outside of Richmond but they are completely different players.