Society/Culture Woke. Can you tell real from parody? - Part 2 -

[Carringbush2010]

Woke is a word used by the African American community to describe being viscerally aware of the way the deck is stacked against African Americans in America and everything that entails. Its been used that way by those people for nearly 100 years or over 100 years depending on your source.

Yes I'm aware, I've posted this more than once in this thread, so you don't need to edumacate me.

So when someone says that using woke to describe stuff they don't like is the result of language being fluid all you can really take from their comments is that they're so dumb they don't even understand the language they are trying (and failing) to use.

It's not just about dislike, it's also used as an observation.

So people use it incorrectly, sometimes by Jan and Joe public as an observation and sometimes as a pejorative by old angry cloud yellers.

The thread title itself alludes that the term is used to define / label / discriminate the emotionally irrational / politically correct / left wingers.

Regardless of the term one wants to use, it's used to define the emotionally irrational, who GAF if it used that way.

All it does is allow those labeled as woke or those defending those labeled as woke to try and discredit argument 'tHAt NoT theRigiNAL DeFNition' as some sort of gotcha closed down your argument Bullsh*t. It's a childish and desperate clutching at straws response.

No one GAF about the term gay being used to define / discriminate homosexuality do they. It's accepted as the definable term.

Again, the term used in this thread title and used as a definition of the emotionally stupid is meh, no one *n cares.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Agreed. I don't play the victim card.

Parody.

 

[ferball]

Comparing language to matter is dumb shite. I'm not gonna beat around the bush.

And yet you're the one who brought up the idea that language was fluid.

 

[evolved2]

And yet you're the one who brought up the idea that language was fluid.

I respect you and often learn from your posts.

I have a BSc, decades of industry experience, and many years of toying with illogical people on social media. You won't win this battle.

 

[happy_eagle]

Another cancel culture success story.

For those unaware, Shane was initially hired as a cast member a few years ago, but was fired 2 days after being announced after people went back and found audio of his podcast they didn't approve of (asian jokes). Now he's hosting the show

(FYI, I am excited for Shane being on SNL. One of the best acts out there right now)

 

[rank and file]

Language fluidity is the best.
RWNJ
Really Waiting,Nuclear Jesus.
For the rapture crew.

 

[Cap]

Another cancel culture success story.

For those unaware, Shane was initially hired as a cast member a few years ago, but was fired 2 days after being announced after people went back and found audio of his podcast they didn't approve of (asian jokes). Now he's hosting the show

(FYI, I am excited for Shane being on SNL. One of the best acts out there right now)

What do you mean cancel culture success story ?

 

[ferball]

I respect you and often learn from your posts.

I have a BSc, decades of industry experience, and many years of toying with illogical people on social media. You won't win this battle.

Its not a battle tho.

If you have a BSc you know that language can't be a fluid. If you have years of toying with illogical people on social media you should have read the thread title. (I dropped out of a BSc in third year after I realised how limited my options were for future employment. Moved to Nimbin and grew weed for a couple of decades cos i felt it was a more honest way to earn a living. I learned alot at uni tho.)

Language doesn't change in response to external pressures, it changes from within as people play with words and toy with terms and what have you. Its adaptive sure. My first memory of mainstream use of the term woke was by someone who was white and very much haute bourgeois.

She was talking in the context of BLM, a movement that started cos cops would rock up and shoot black people with no excuse or provocation. And I'm not talking about the summary executions of gang members etc that have gone on for decades. I'm taalking ordinary middle class black people.

She stood in front of a crowd of similar people and claimed she was woke. Like she got it. Like she understood how dangerous America was for people like her. The only way she'd have been more cloth eared was if she'd been a bourgy white bloke saying the same thing.

So anyway my cynicism in relation to the way the word is used is simply that its got so little relationship to its origins that it didn't change by adaption or fluidity. It was Vanilla Iced.

But if it means that much to you carry on. I'm just messing with you anyway.

 

[happy_eagle]

What do you mean cancel culture success story ?

I mean that most people that are "cancelled" end up doing just fine if not better.

 

[Mofra]

Another cancel culture success story.

For those unaware, Shane was initially hired as a cast member a few years ago, but was fired 2 days after being announced after people went back and found audio of his podcast they didn't approve of (asian jokes). Now he's hosting the show

(FYI, I am excited for Shane being on SNL. One of the best acts out there right now)

Love Gillis. His latest special is incredible

 

[Cap]

I mean that most people that are "cancelled" end up doing just fine if not better.

So the success is they weren't cancelled or that the cancelling made them change? Or really the cancelling wasn't cancelling it was more of a hey dude, don't say dumb shit?

Sorry, I don't mean to harass you, I'm just trying to understand what you mean.

 

[happy_eagle]

So the success is they weren't cancelled or that the cancelling made them change? Or really the cancelling wasn't cancelling it was more of a hey dude, don't say dumb s**t?

Sorry, I don't mean to harass you, I'm just trying to understand what you mean.

More this. My original comment was tongue in cheek at the whole myth of cancel culture and the conservative victim complex.

 

[Cap]

More this. My original comment was tongue in cheek at the whole myth of cancel culture and the conservative victim complex.

I though that's what you meant, but sometimes it's hard to read tone.

Apologies for drawing that out.

 

[Mofra]

More this. My original comment was tongue in cheek at the whole myth of cancel culture and the conservative victim complex.

The irony is that conservatives have ramped up their 'cancel' wars in recent years.
Book burnings and book banning has become rife in the southern, Christo-fascist states over there.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

The irony is that conservatives have ramped up their 'cancel' wars in recent years.
Book burnings and book banning has become rife in the southern, Christo-fascist states over there.

I’m old enough to remember when Peter Dutton tried to cancel Woolworths.

Good times.

 

[NSWCROW]

The irony is that conservatives have ramped up their 'cancel' wars in recent years.
Book burnings and book banning has become rife in the southern, Christo-fascist states over there.

It's ok when conservatives do it because they're conservatives

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I respect you and often learn from your posts.

I have a BSc, decades of industry experience, and many years of toying with illogical people on social media. You won't win this battle.

 

[Gough]

Essex boy, what do you expect?

 

[evolved2]

He/she has the appearance of a reputable candidate judging by that corflute. Unfortunately I'm not eligible to vote.

 

[Crankyhawk]

He/she has the appearance of a reputable candidate judging by that corflute. Unfortunately I'm not eligible to vote.

Looks a bit Adam bandt like

 

[evolved2]

Looks a bit Adam bandt like

I'm sufficiently lucid to be aware when I'm being played.

 

[demondavey]

I love the concept of political parties like this. If anything it just proves how ‘woke’ they are. Woke in the sense of being offended by everything out there that doesn’t conform to their idea social and gender structures etc. See initially people like this only had to deal with white Australians because aboriginals were cast aside by society and ostracised, back when immigration was minimal along with homosexuality and gender identification.

We now have a situation X amount of years down the track where homosexuality is part and parcel of our society, gender identification are more thoroughly represented. These anti woke types just can’t handle different voices, opinions, changes to their once conservative society etc. So what is it? Anti woke types are simply unable to accept differences and label any voice other than those as woke when in reality all they’re doing is having a big soft sook.

 

[Mofra]

Essex boy, what do you expect?

You can't spell "Nathan Essex" without "Nan Sex"

 

[Jazny]

If someone asked me to draw what I think a 'woke' middle aged man would look like, I would draw something like this:

 

[Ghost Patrol]

If someone asked me to draw what I think a 'woke' middle aged man would look like, I would draw something like this:
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No, if you check out all the antiwoke Sky News commentators, they are in the same genre as this guy.

Also, put a Groucho Marx nose/glasses on Peter Dutton and you get something similar.