Women's football licences to be announced today- who gets in???

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Has to be a legitimate league with proper structure like the men's. A pre season round robin ending in a grand final is nonsense. 8 teams, 16 rounds everyone plays each other twice, home and away. Then a finals and GF. Make it legit
 
Bostonian said:
I don't think I agree with your economic outlook on that.

A women's team will be a black hole for money. No way we get even close to the financial return back for what we'll have to invest.

I can't say how many will buy a membership, I can say though that aligning a single club to ours won't see any members coming from other clubs fans who don't support Carlton. As if a St Kilda, Richmond or Essendon fan would buy any kind of membership that's associated with Carlton.

By aligning to a single AFL club you're limiting the appeal of a club right away.
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1. By saying it will be a black hole, you are just saying you don't think the concept will work so there is not a lot to discuss from there. This is a long term strategy by the AFL and it will take a fair while to really get going.

2. We don't know what our investment will be. We do know we have the room for them to move into and we do know that we will be able to share certain resources with them. Any sponsorship the AFL generate out of this will see a portion go to the clubs.

3. They made the decision to align so we move forward based on that. What they could have, should have done is now irrelevant. However, the East Melbourne Amazons would have started with a membership base of zero and while they would raise the interest of all local women, would that be enough to buy a membership? Would AFL supporting men in those areas look to spend a little more to support a standalone women's team? Look at Carlton with a membership of around 50k. How many of those would pay extra to include a WFL membership in that if we have a piggyback deal? Could we bank on a healthy % of current female members to expand those to support the new product?

Further, would we have integrated events, clinics, dinners, family days?

Are we really concerned about losing the dollars from non-Carlton supporters? Are we expecting the membership interest in 1 of 8 standalone WFL teams to outstrip Carlton's current membership? Unlikely.

Then there is the possibility of increasing latent interest in people who don't have a club allegiance or non-members in our geographical zone, especially if their own daughters develop an interest in playing.
 

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JeffDunne said:
It is amazing how much we hear from the Lions about having inadequate facilities yet we're supposed to believe they'll be able to support a women's team?
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They're at such rock bottom they're probably clinging to the women's team dragging them out of the mire.
 
JD Tomahawk said:
Has to be a legitimate league with proper structure like the men's. A pre season round robin ending in a grand final is nonsense. 8 teams, 16 rounds everyone plays each other twice, home and away. Then a finals and GF. Make it legit
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Well it'd be 14 rounds, considering you don't actually play yourself.
 
JeffDunne said:
There's a heap of company's lining up to promote women's football.

I'm sure some of those companies influenced the AFL's thinking in terms how the comp is structured. Tampon companies (for example) probably wouldn't have ever sponsored an AFL club. Now those type of companies will have a vehicle to get into sponsoring these clubs.
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AFL and club sponsorship and marketing managers will have a new lease on life right now.
 
Starburns_ said:
They're at such rock bottom they're probably clinging to the women's team dragging them out of the mire.
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In fairness Craig Starcevich has done a great job for women's football in Brisbane.

I'm sure a large part of the reason they have a team is because of him.
 

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Engimal v2 said:
There's already complaints of the male talent being spread too thin amongst the 18 AFL sides, with 150+ years of development. There's no way there can be a 18 team women's comp in our lifetimes.
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No arguments from me. Still they have flagged a likely expansion even as early as 2018. At least these new clubs will start off with an existing supporter base to tap into.
 
This is a bit overhyped for a less than 2 months competition. But I guess it's supposed to be the AFL version of the WBBL.

Bostonian finding fault with funding something for women, what a shock.

Whiskers said:
Why isn't this just a state league with 6 teams?
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Because nobody would give a shit.

Ice-Wolf said:
3 Clubs within 5kms of each other, great geographic spread there AFL! Bravo! Would Richmond have made it too much or a farce by cutting it down to 1km?
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Oh do you play games in Seaford now? :drunk:
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
1. By saying it will be a black hole, you are just saying you don't think the concept will work so there is not a lot to discuss from there. This is a long term strategy by the AFL and it will take a fair while to really get going.

2. We don't know what our investment will be. We do know we have the room for them to move into and we do know that we will be able to share certain resources with them. Any sponsorship the AFL generate out of this will see a portion go to the clubs.

3. They made the decision to align so we move forward based on that. What they could have, should have done is now irrelevant. However, the East Melbourne Amazons would have started with a membership base of zero and while they would raise the interest of all local women, would that be enough to buy a membership? Would AFL supporting men in those areas look to spend a little more to support a standalone women's team? Look at Carlton with a membership of around 50k. How many of those would pay extra to include a WFL membership in that if we have a piggyback deal? Could we bank on a healthy % of current female members to expand those to support the new product?

Further, would we have integrated events, clinics, dinners, family days?

Are we really concerned about losing the dollars from non-Carlton supporters? Are we expecting the membership interest in 1 of 8 standalone WFL teams to outstrip Carlton's current membership? Unlikely.

Then there is the possibility of increasing latent interest in people who don't have a club allegiance or non-members in our geographical zone, especially if their own daughters develop an interest in playing.
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We tried that with Carlton Soccer Club and it was an abject failure. I'd rather we not get involved in these ventures and stick to simply ensuring our bottom lines are in the black and we're winning on the field.

I have zero interest in the women's team just as I had zero interest in the soccer team we lent our name too. The friends I go to the football with are of the same mind.

Especially if it's going to be run during Cricket and beach season.
 
Engimal v2 said:
Absolutely there are. :)
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Would one of those "petty reasons" be its not that good to watch .I stumbled across a womens game in the neighbourhood meant to be the female equivilant to our local TAC cup team I was told ,and I definitely wouldn't pay to watch another one, I go with a mate to watch his son in the local 2nds and ill gladly part with $10 to do that but unless its for charity or I was a parent wouldn't cross the road to watch a womens game again .Ive got nothing against a womens league good luck to the girls for playing id imagine theyd work just as hard as the guys on the training track and if I had daughters and one of them played I would be tremendously proud but no amount of marketing by the AFL is going to change the product for what it is the game I saw was no better than your annual woollies vs coles social match on a Sunday .
 
joop said:
I'm glad we didn't get a license.
It's going to be very embarrassing when the Bulldogs women's team has more flags in a couple years than the male side.

We don't need that.
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Anyone who would be embarrassed by that has incredibly thin skin and needs to get the **** over themselves
 
JD Tomahawk said:
Has to be a legitimate league with proper structure like the men's. A pre season round robin ending in a grand final is nonsense. 8 teams, 16 rounds everyone plays each other twice, home and away. Then a finals and GF. Make it legit
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And then the crowds would be tiny because they'd be competing against thousands of other games of football that occur each weekend.

AFL, VFL, all the Suburban and Country leagues.

So much competition and so many people doing other things when they'd be playing their games.
 

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