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[jb40]

Its not their statement, or their goal. It was included (along with a bunch of other hypothetical/aspirational items that also have no chance of happening and receive not a single bit of attention) as part of little blue sky musing type video put out by the WEF.

It comes from a Danish socialist politician, Ida Auken, who stated that;


Her full article here -> Welcome To 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better. Just have a read of that and tell me how likely any of it is lol.

The conspiracy part is that its a stated goal of the WEF, and that they would have any ability to actually implement it.

well if you look at how easily and gullible the world was when a man apparently ate a bat in wuhan forcing the world to shut down

 

[bourbons]

well if you look at how easily and gullible the world was when a man apparently ate a bat in wuhan forcing the world to shut down

Unsure what you mean. The best I can logically deduce is you think that people believing covid was caused by an infected bat and people believing that the WEF are trying to wrangle your house and possessions out from under you by 2030 are equally stupid. But somehow I doubt that is your contention lol.

 

[jb40]

Unsure what you mean. The best I can logically deduce is you think that people believing covid was caused by an infected bat and people believing that the WEF are trying to wrangle your house and possessions out from under you by 2030 are equally stupid. But somehow I doubt that is your contention lol.

go and learn about fiat money and how it works.
we will get a new currency at the end of this decade

 

[bourbons]

go and learn about fiat money and how it works.
we will get a new currency at the end of this decade

Bookmarked, se ya in 7 years.

Can't wait to see how a new currency will render all title deeds null and void

 

[zill]

Its not their statement, or their goal. It was included (along with a bunch of other hypothetical/aspirational items that also have no chance of happening and receive not a single bit of attention) as part of little blue sky musing type video put out by the WEF.

It comes from a Danish socialist politician, Ida Auken, who stated that;


Her full article here -> Welcome To 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better. Just have a read of that and tell me how likely any of it is lol.

The conspiracy part is that its a stated goal of the WEF, and that they would have any ability to actually implement it.

You call it blue sky musing, but it was done from the perspective of a tech company being part of a circular economy. The general premise is that within a circular economy, no one has an interest in products with a short life span as they are all services. Subscription services aka renting your household appliances instead of buying them. It's a great business model for corporations, not so great for the consumer. This is the general trend of everything that comes out of the WEF, all these ideas pushed as being for the benefit of society, when they are really only a benefit to the wealthy.

Here is a better article about it.

We have TV on demand, why not household appliances?

A hackathon at a meeting of the World Economic Forum led to two circular economy ideas that could help change the world, writes former Danish environment minister Ida Auken

www.theguardian.com

 

[jb40]

Bookmarked, se ya in 7 years.

Can't wait to see how a new currency will render all title deeds null and void

dozons of countries are trialing central digital currencies already so stop worring about the new gender or pronoun of the week & follow actual real world events

The Reserve Bank is about to run a digital currency pilot that could eventually kill stable coins

The Reserve Bank of Australia will trial its own digital currency as part of a research project to evaluate the future of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC) in Australia.

www.abc.net.au

CBDCs: These countries are using or launching digital currencies

China is rapidly rolling out its new digital currency

The rest of the world is watching its experiment closely

www.economist.com

 

[zill]

dozons of countries are trialing central digital currencies already so stop worring about the new gender or pronoun of the week & follow actual real world events

The Reserve Bank is about to run a digital currency pilot that could eventually kill stable coins

The Reserve Bank of Australia will trial its own digital currency as part of a research project to evaluate the future of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC) in Australia.

www.abc.net.au

CBDCs: These countries are using or launching digital currencies

China is rapidly rolling out its new digital currency

The rest of the world is watching its experiment closely

www.economist.com

Bourbons standard response is "it will never happen/in our lifetimes" even when the thing is already happening.

 

[jb40]

Bourbons standard response is "it will never happen/in our lifetimes" even when the thing is already happening.

its ironic how the mods put this thread in a conspiracy section when its already happening being pushed and controlled by the people who run the trade,banking systems etc

creater of the WEF & worked in the USA government to some capacity since the 60s up until recently, also set up the trade deal for the USA and other european and westen countrioes to sell there soul to china. you need to understand the Russian recolution then the cival war in China between the COMMUNISTS and nationals to fully understand as its all connected

 

[bourbons]

You call it blue sky musing, but it was done from the perspective of a tech company being part of a circular economy. The general premise is that within a circular economy, no one has an interest in products with a short life span as they are all services. Subscription services aka renting your household appliances instead of buying them.

I'd say the general premise of the article I posted by Auken was more that it was driven by "all these things becoming free". Along with cheap driverless flying cars and no rent, of course

It's a great business model for corporations, not so great for the consumer. This is the general trend of everything that comes out of the WEF, all these ideas pushed as being for the benefit of society, when they are really only a benefit to the wealthy.

Here is a better article about it.

We have TV on demand, why not household appliances?

A hackathon at a meeting of the World Economic Forum led to two circular economy ideas that could help change the world, writes former Danish environment minister Ida Auken

www.theguardian.com

You can already rent appliances right now rather than buying if you want. Like the car share discussion awhile back, it will never become as ubiquitous as digital content because you can't download a fridge.

People who don't want to do this will still be free to buy. As always, you provide no rational whatsoever about how people will be forced into the change.

Tend to agree about the WEF being about benefit to the wealthy. They just have no power to implement their wacky ideas, beyond lobbying governments who still have to answer to their populace electorally.

 

[bourbons]

dozons of countries are trialing central digital currencies already so stop worring about the new gender or pronoun of the week & follow actual real world events

The Reserve Bank is about to run a digital currency pilot that could eventually kill stable coins

The Reserve Bank of Australia will trial its own digital currency as part of a research project to evaluate the future of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC) in Australia.

www.abc.net.au

CBDCs: These countries are using or launching digital currencies

China is rapidly rolling out its new digital currency

The rest of the world is watching its experiment closely

www.economist.com

Your undies are showing a bit mate re: the bolded

Who dis by the way? What was your previous username?

Yes, I'm sure CBDCs will be created. Millions will probably love it and use it. Still unsure how those that don't want anything to do with it will be forced into it? Cash, EFTPOS and electronic transfer gone? How?

 

[bourbons]

Bourbons standard response is "it will never happen/in our lifetimes" even when the thing is already happening.

Talk about a strawman lol

As always, people who aren't interested being forced into it is the part that won't happen in our lifetimes.

 

[zill]

I'd say the general premise of the article I posted by Auken was more that it was driven by "all these things becoming free". Along with cheap driverless flying cars and no rent, of course


You can already rent appliances right now rather than buying if you want. Like the car share discussion awhile back, it will never become as ubiquitous as digital content because you can't download a fridge.

People who don't want to do this will still be free to buy. As always, you provide no rational whatsoever about how people will be forced into the change.

Tend to agree about the WEF being about benefit to the wealthy. They just have no power to implement their wacky ideas, beyond lobbying governments who still have to answer to their populace electorally.

You keep saying they have no power yet all the money in the world is in partnership with them, along with large portions of govt. Most of the stuff they push aligns with agenda 2030, with an emphasis on how to ensure the wealthy aren't disadvaantaged in any way, or actively benefit.

 

[jb40]

Your undies are showing a bit mate re: the bolded

Who dis by the way? What was your previous username?

Yes, I'm sure CBDCs will be created. Millions will probably love it and use it. Still unsure how those that don't want anything to do with it will be forced into it? Cash, EFTPOS and electronic transfer gone? How?

countries are already moving towards a cashless society and yes even in Australia the government has tried to introduce laws to put it in motion
the governments couldn't care what its people has to say and will continue there power grab madness as much as the commies and sociliasts like to think the government cares for them and will look after there best interests

The cash ban law is dead, but all over the world we're moving further towards a cashless society

A controversial law that would have banned payments of $10,000 and imposed two-year jail sentences on people using cash for purchases above that limit has been killed in the Senate. But it could be revived.

www.abc.net.au

Top countries moving towards a cashless society by 2022

The decade ahead is one anticipated to be swept with technological disruption, as we are digitizing every aspect of our day-to-day lives.

www.globaldata.com

The countries where cash is on the verge of extinction

Are we all developing an aversion to coins and notes?

www.bbc.com

 

[bourbons]

You keep saying they have no power yet all the money in the world is in partnership with them, along with large portions of govt. Most of the stuff they push aligns with agenda 2030, with an emphasis on how to ensure the wealthy aren't disadvaantaged in any way, or actively benefit.

Yes mate, thats pretty much what I've said;

Tend to agree about the WEF being about benefit to the wealthy. They just have no power to implement their wacky ideas, beyond lobbying governments who still have to answer to their populace electorally.

So, how likely do you think the scenario outlined in Auken's article will be by 2030? Free transport, accommodation, food? Driverless flying cars?

Did you know you can rent appliances right now rather than buy or not?

 

[jb40]

Yes mate, thats pretty much what I've said;


So, how likely do you think the scenario outlined in Auken's article will be by 2030? Free transport, accommodation, food? Driverless flying cars?

Did you know you can rent appliances right now rather than buy or not?

look up the perto dollar and youll understand why the USD is the most traded currency in the world, how and why it has been the reserved currency of the world since the mid 40s


you'll then understand the news why the Saudis accepting trades for oil in the Yuan is one of the bigest economic and global trade news of the past 80 years! the world is changing

Saudi Arabia successfully conducts its first-ever yuan-denominated loan transaction with China.

The step will facilitate trade and investment between China and Saudi Arabia and promote the issuance of yuan-denominated loans to other countries in the region

menaunleashed.substack.com

 

[zill]

Yes mate, thats pretty much what I've said;


So, how likely do you think the scenario outlined in Auken's article will be by 2030? Free transport, accommodation, food? Driverless flying cars?

Did you know you can rent appliances right now rather than buy or not?

Obviously all the free stuff is rubbish. Flying cars are 20 years overdue as well. Just like agenda 2030, it's a pipe dream. But that isn't going to stop the implementation of policies that at least make it look like something is being done. And the WEF is there to make sure that any policies implemented are going to benefit corporations, and not the environment/society necessarily. COuld we get to a point where it isn't possible to buy a fridge, and renting is the only option? Who knows what crazy policies will be thought up to combat climate change. A single policy about efficiency and durability of household appliances, which can only be met by a handful of companies who will only deal on a subscription basis isn't beyond the realms of fantasy.

Just like anything the WEF puts out, you need to look past the fluff, like free energy and flying cars, and look at the core of the idea, which in the case of 'you will own nothing' is that one time purchases like a fridge become an ongoing subscription, all in the name of the environment, of course. The video on brainwave monitors is a good example, some fluff about them being used to solve crime, a cursory glance at what should be their focus in helping disabled people, and then most of the time is about using it for what these corporations really care about, maximising efficiency and therefore profits.

 

[bourbons]

countries are already moving towards a cashless society and yes even in Australia the government has tried to introduce laws to put it in motion
the governments couldn't care what its people has to say and will continue there power grab madness as much as the commies and sociliasts like to think the government cares for them and will look after there best interests

The cash ban law is dead, but all over the world we're moving further towards a cashless society

A controversial law that would have banned payments of $10,000 and imposed two-year jail sentences on people using cash for purchases above that limit has been killed in the Senate. But it could be revived.

www.abc.net.au

Top countries moving towards a cashless society by 2022

The decade ahead is one anticipated to be swept with technological disruption, as we are digitizing every aspect of our day-to-day lives.

www.globaldata.com

The countries where cash is on the verge of extinction

Are we all developing an aversion to coins and notes?

www.bbc.com

The proposed cash ban law is aimed at clamping down on criminal activity. When was the last time you paid cash for a $10,000+ purchase?

The other articles seem to outline scenarios where businesses or individuals are preferring to avoid carrying cash, nothing to do with government overreach. As I've said, there will be millions of people who are bang up for cashless operation, they probably are already. I work with a fair few younger people (20s), all of them never carried cash even before covid. At some stage we probably have to recognise we'll simply be in the minority on this one if we aren't already.

And none of this has anything to do with EFTPOS and electronic transfers.

 

[bourbons]

look up the perto dollar and youll understand why the USD is the most traded currency in the world, how and why it has been the reserved currency of the world since the mid 40s


you'll then understand the news why the Saudis accepting trades for oil in the Yuan is one of the bigest economic and global trade news of the past 80 years! the world is changing

Saudi Arabia successfully conducts its first-ever yuan-denominated loan transaction with China.

The step will facilitate trade and investment between China and Saudi Arabia and promote the issuance of yuan-denominated loans to other countries in the region

menaunleashed.substack.com

lol

Sounds like you might need to do a bit of reading on the petrodollar yourself

Debunking the Dumping-the-Dollar Conspiracy

On Monday, the Independent reported that a number of countries are conspiring to dump the dollar as the primary oil trade currency, spelling disaster for…

foreignpolicy.com

 

[bourbons]

Obviously all the free stuff is rubbish. Flying cars are 20 years overdue as well. Just like agenda 2030, it's a pipe dream. But that isn't going to stop the implementation of policies that at least make it look like something is being done. And the WEF is there to make sure that any policies implemented are going to benefit corporations, and not the environment/society necessarily. COuld we get to a point where it isn't possible to buy a fridge, and renting is the only option? Who knows what crazy policies will be thought up to combat climate change. A single policy about efficiency and durability of household appliances, which can only be met by a handful of companies who will only deal on a subscription basis isn't beyond the realms of fantasy.

Just like anything the WEF puts out, you need to look past the fluff, like free energy and flying cars, and look at the core of the idea, which in the case of 'you will own nothing' is that one time purchases like a fridge become an ongoing subscription, all in the name of the environment, of course. The video on brainwave monitors is a good example, some fluff about them being used to solve crime, a cursory glance at what should be their focus in helping disabled people, and then most of the time is about using it for what these corporations really care about, maximising efficiency and therefore profits.

So you acknowledge all the stuff in that article is rubbish, but "you'll own nothing and be happy" has practically been a rallying cry for any broadly opposed to the WEF for years now? And Agenda 2030 is a pipe dream, but is similarly cited as ushering in a new and unwanted type of society? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, obviously.

You'll also need to run me through how everyone hiring fridges would be beneficial for the environment. Surely more of them would need to be produced than currently are for a system like that to work? Again, the original article from which the idea comes from has nothing to do with climate change.

 

[zill]

So you acknowledge all the stuff in that article is rubbish, but "you'll own nothing and be happy" has practically been a rallying cry for any broadly opposed to the WEF for years now? And Agenda 2030 is a pipe dream, but is similarly cited as ushering in a new and unwanted type of society? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, obviously.

You'll also need to run me through how everyone hiring fridges would be beneficial for the environment. Surely more of them would need to be produced than currently are for a system like that to work? Again, the original article from which the idea comes from has nothing to do with climate change.

The goals of things like agenda 2030 are unachievable, since it was thought up the world has gone backward in a lot of things it seeks to improve. But it is being implemented, we've talked about 15 minute cities here which are a part of the sustainable cities thing in agenda 2030. You really seem to have no clue about any of this stuff, yet come to this thread to call it a conspiracy or whatever.

I don't think the hiring of household appliances or anything else will be beneficial to the environment, but that is the idea being pushed in this article that I have already linked before:

We have TV on demand, why not household appliances?

A hackathon at a meeting of the World Economic Forum led to two circular economy ideas that could help change the world, writes former Danish environment minister Ida Auken

www.theguardian.com

From that article:

From the company perspective, this is an incentive to design products that last as long as possible and be as energy-efficient as possible. The incentive for looking at the total cost of ownership would be very clear. All materials could be retrieved from the appliances and the company would have a much closer relationship with the consumer. This way we convinced the sceptics that Appliance Alliance had the potential to bring down energy and resource consumption. If a government wanted to support this development, it should simply put a demand for a 10-year warranty on all household appliances.

Have a look at what a circular economy is, it is all about the environment. There are so many ways that companies could be "incentivised" to produce better products. The only one mentioned in the article guarantees maximum profits for corporations, whilst putting people into a poverty cycle. This is my problem with a group like the WEF, all the money in the world as well as the policy makers, claiming to want to work for the betterment of society, yet they come up with dross like this.

 

[Nothing]

Have a look at what a circular economy is, it is all about the environment. There are so many ways that companies could be "incentivised" to produce better products. The only one mentioned in the article guarantees maximum profits for corporations, whilst putting people into a poverty cycle. This is my problem with a group like the WEF, all the money in the world as well as the policy makers, claiming to want to work for the betterment of society, yet they come up with dross like this.

I see the article mentioned

If a government wanted to support this development, it should simply put a demand for a 10-year warranty on all household appliances.

That seems like the article is suggesting a way to reduce waste at the cost of corporations.

 

[bourbons]

The goals of things like agenda 2030 are unachievable

Yet here you are still talking about it like it will usher in the dark times, go figure

You really seem to have no clue about any of this stuff, yet come to this thread to call it a conspiracy or whatever.

I had no clue about covid regs ending either, apparently

And yes, quite confident people being forced into poverty by the tyrannical cabal is a conspiracy theory - or rather, by the fanciful stuff that regularly has you up in arms. As I've mentioned before, if your concern truly is about poverty and authoritarian regimes there are about a million other things being done or attempted by actual sovereign governments that you should be focused on instead.




This stuff is not as sexy as 'Klaus is trying to rule the world' I'll give you that, but has far more actual impact on people's day to day.

 

[zill]

I see the article mentioned


That seems like the article is suggesting a way to reduce waste at the cost of corporations.

Why did they spend all that time and effort dreaming up ways to put people in poverty cycles? Their claimed goals could be achieved through increased warranty periods and other things like minimum efficiency targets. Just like everything the WEF does, it is only discussed as a way to increase the power and profits of corporations.

This quote from the article sums up the WEF mindset:

“Every product is a service just waiting to happen.”

 

[zill]

Yet here you are still talking about it like it will usher in the dark times, go figure


I had no clue about covid regs ending either, apparently

And yes, quite confident people being forced into poverty by the tyrannical cabal is a conspiracy theory - or rather, by the fanciful stuff that regularly has you up in arms. As I've mentioned before, if your concern truly is about poverty and authoritarian regimes there are about a million other things being done or attempted by actual sovereign governments that you should be focused on instead.




This stuff is not as sexy as 'Klaus is trying to rule the world' I'll give you that, but has far more actual impact on people's day to day.

Do you know what agenda 2030 is? The WEF response to it is carbon credit schemes, which will ensure the wealthy suffer no impact on their extravagent lifestyles whilst the poor get poorer.

 

[bourbons]

Do you know what agenda 2030 is?

That thing which you yourself acknowledge is unachievable?

Things are getting surreal again