World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2009

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Re: World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2009 ***WITH SPOILERS***

Final Table coverage on ESPN today at 1pm and 7:30pm.
 

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Re: World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2009 ***WITH SPOILERS***

Wow, I avoided this thread all the way through, because I wanted to watch it on ESPN.

Darvin was bloody unlucky in the end, Cada hands down is the worst player I have ever seen win a tournament, let alone the biggest tournament of them all.

Twice on the ESPN coverage he laid down the better hand, and then he got lucky at the end with 2 hands.

Worst player ever to win the Main Event, but at least he is from Michigan, probably the hardest hit place on earth by the financial crisis, maybe he can revive the area a bit.:)
 
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gizmo01 said:
7:30pm version a repeat of todays?
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Yeah it will be, the coverage showed right up to the heads up match and eventual winner, went for about 2 and 1/2 hours in total, so 7.30-10.00pm tonight, might watch it again just for kicks.:thumbsu:
 
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You underestimate Cada. You need luck to win the ME. You need to suckout to win the ME.
Most of his plays were standard except for the AJ call. Being able to lay down big hands needs skill.

If Moon won then you would of had the worst player to win a Main Event.
 
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mattys123 said:
Yeah it will be, the coverage showed right up to the heads up match and eventual winner, went for about 2 and 1/2 hours in total, so 7.30-10.00pm tonight, might watch it again just for kicks.:thumbsu:
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Awesome, shall record it and watch it tonight whilst playing.
 
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mattys123 said:
Wow, I avoided this thread all the way through, because I wanted to watch it on ESPN.

Darvin was bloody unlucky in the end, Cada hands down is the worst player I have ever seen win a tournament, let alone the biggest tournament of them all.

Twice on the ESPN coverage he laid down the better hand, and then he got lucky at the end with 2 hands.

Worst player ever to win the Main Event, but at least he is from Michigan, probably the hardest hit place on earth by the financial crisis, maybe he can revive the area a bit.:)
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:rolleyes: Yeah I'm sure you were really able to gauge how he played the final table from a 2 hour shove fest.
 
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Cada is a much better player than Moon.

The only mis-steps were the AJ call, and the 2/2 shove against Saout, but even so, I can understand why he made them.

Yes, he got lucky, but his plays were correct.
 

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Like every year it's frustrating to watch the ESPN coverage as you don't really see much play and it's just all ins.

Avoided the FT results until watching it tonight, so much of the play was crazy bad,

Buchman building a 90m pot with AQ, and Cada's overplay with 22 v QQ spring to mind.

Moon's three suckouts were painful viewing, his AQ v Ivey's AK, his AQ v Buchman's QQ, and his snap call with KJdd against A5. And of course the final hand with QJdd. I wanted him to just go away.

Personally Cada winning it saved it for me, as once Akenhead went out first i wanted to see Cada win. Also thought he was one of the better players in the whole thing from watching the series.
 
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mattys123 said:
Darvin was bloody unlucky in the end,
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Twice on the ESPN coverage he laid down the better hand..............

.........Worst player ever to win the Main Event,
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It's far better to lay down the best hand than to call with the worst hand. Your post makes no sense.
 
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Ricketts said:
Like every year it's frustrating to watch the ESPN coverage as you don't really see much play and it's just all ins.

so much of the play was crazy bad
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The coverage was terrible. Too many ads, not enough hands. I was tuned to Bluff Magazine's audio coverage, PokerNews' live reporting, and following Twitter at my PC for every single hand at the final table. The two best players by far were Buchman and Saout. Ivey was too short-stacked to even get close to a chance. Thanks to Hellmuth's coaching of Shulman, Ivey possibly missed an early double up. Hellmuth advocated raising 4-5x pre early on, the problem of course is that you give up so many chips unnecessarily when someone 3-bets strong. Shulman raises 4x in EP with 55, Ivey shoves with KK, Cada reluctantly lays down TT, Shulman folds. Cada eyeballs Ivey for a read LOL.

Cada has to be the luckiest ME winner in history, an opinion that many pros on twitter concur with. But I guess you have to get lucky, but Cada simply did not play well. The 33 v Shulman's JJ was standard. He was short-stacked, he needed a double up, he ran into a hand and got lucky. But Christ he got lucky every single time. He won 3 huge races and twice won with underpairs. Moon owned him at the final table. If Moon wasn't a complete noob idiot, he should have destroyed Cada. But the fact Moon didn't know what he was doing made it hard for Cada to get a read. But Cada played HU shockingly bad.

jacksonp11 said:
I just watched it. It's pretty hard to guage how well/bad everyone played by watching the ESPN footage as it's 17 and a half hours cut down into 2.

Would have been so much better if Ivey had have won, but oh well.
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I just hoped Ivey at least accumulated some chips but he never got started. My interest, and that of many people, severely waned once Moon put the bad beat on him. That's poker, he took it well. You can't fault Moon for calling there with AQ. He'd be thinking it's a race at worst.

The main thing I reckon to take away from this year's final table is that too many wanted to rely on luck rather than skill. How many times did players shove 50, 60, 70 BBs all-in pre-flop? These guys ever heard of smallball? Arguably the best smallballing was Moon heads-up against Cada. He made some very bad plays also and donked off way more chips than he needed to, but Moon was winning on points but Cada managed a knock-out late in the fight to become champion.

Overall, I think the final table was inspiring.
 
Re: World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2009 ***WITH SPOILERS***

Listend to Bluff Magazine's audio coverage. Was very interesting to me that the way the players physically where sitting acting and betting was spoken about so much. Live poker seems to be a whole new ball game to online poker.
 
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The way they presented the coverage would make anyone think the entire final table came down purely to luck ... maybe it did ... but they really needed to show more hands. Just about every hand they showed before the heads-up was a pre-flop all-in. And I can't remember ever seeing so many adds on any Foxtel channel either.
 
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Alfonz said:
The way they presented the coverage would make anyone think the entire final table came down purely to luck ... maybe it did ... but they really needed to show more hands. Just about every hand they showed before the heads-up was a pre-flop all-in. And I can't remember ever seeing so many adds on any Foxtel channel either.
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It is ESPN they always have a lot of ads, I prefer to watch it on pokertube.
 
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rogerdoger said:
Listend to Bluff Magazine's audio coverage. Was very interesting to me that the way the players physically where sitting acting and betting was spoken about so much. Live poker seems to be a whole new ball game to online poker.
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I much prefered the audio coverage, felt like it gave me a much better insight into why players were doing what and to how they were playing. Not just seeing the all ins that were the result of everything else that had gone on.
 

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