News Xavier Duursma departs for Essendon

[agmsy]

But I also think we can cover X and Wines

Weren't we "covering" Duursma's absence while recovering from a PCL injury by playing Wines and Boak on the wings for extended periods?

Both Duursma and BZT are depth level players right now

Describe our wing depth? Even if we accept that Duursma is unproven and not just a capable-enough player cruelled by injury, I reckon he's top of the list.

Who cares.. is this a footy club or a family day out? Not like we could get his Brother anyway

This would be a better call if we weren't employing every Hinkley from about seven different branches of the dog-murderer family tree.

 

[Windy Cindy]

L

Ralphy now saying Duursma is keen to go. I ******* hate Ken Hinkley

Let dodoro
Know we want 2 first rounders thanks

 

[Windy Cindy]

Except Wines has 6-7 quality seasons behind him. Duursma has his debut year.

Low bar

Had 1 ripper season and a couple of okay ones.

The most overrated overhyped player on our list.

 

[JimmyBC]

What does prayer have to do with it? I'm not a conservative Republican after another US school shooting.

You build an environment that players want to come to and you work to bring them to your club. That's what we do every trade period. That's what I believe in.

I can easily tell you who the biggest problem is at Port and it's not Xavier Duursma.

Yea not sure why people keep on with that rubbish, players go everywhere these days including Victorians & South Australians that would rather play in Queensland ffs.

 

[agmsy]

overhyped

Read this as "overhyphened".

Ollie-Wines? Ollie Wi-Nes? Ol-Lie Win-Es?

 

[Mr Experience]

Anyone would think with this carry on that we're trading Butters.

The only thing wrong with trading out Duursma is that we delisted Bonner.

 

[PJ Power]

This is the exact same playbook as Dougal Howard

Say its up to him what he wants
Howard chooses to leave "on his own accord"

Next steps
Accept unders
Then peddle some crap like
Once a player wants to leave there is only so much you can do

Perfect summary of the CD playbook.

 

[Mr Experience]

Chad Wingard was a 2xAA at the age of 22. The best thing we could have done is worked with him to get him back to this form. His decline from his early career heights are just as much on the club as they are on himself. He has had injuries most seasons he has been at the Hawks. He found form when he got a run of games late this year. I'd take a half-interested and hobbled Wingard every day of the week over Jed McEntee.

I also think you've misunderstood the point I was making. We have essentially ended up with nothing from the trade if we trade Duursma for a mediocre tall defender (again, at least the worst in the league statistically) and continue to play Burton haphazardly.

If Clarkson couldn't get him interested in his footy then what hope did Donuts have?

Face the fact that Wingard was intent on cruising and there's nothing anyone could do about it.

 

[JimmyBC]

Anyone would think with this carry on that we're trading Butters.

The only thing wrong with trading out Duursma is that we delisted Bonner.

Bonner has had umpteen chances he's an absolute spud.

 

[Mr Experience]

Bonner has had umpteen chances he's an absolute spud.

Agree he isn't great but without Duursma he would give us wingman depth for peanuts. We have worse footballers still our list.

 

[Mr Experience]

This is Shane Edwards fault.

250+ games and he couldn't ****ing tackle properly

 

[JimmyBC]

Agree he isn't great but without Duursma he would give us wingman depth for peanuts. We have worse footballers still our list.

I'd play Narkle there and see if he can make something of his career.

 

[Mr Experience]

I'd play Narkle there and see if he can make something of his career.

I'd play Narkle ahead of Duursma every week.

 

[bringbackbucky]

If X stays he will be coached by Ken.
If he leaves, and we get some gun as a replacement, the replacement will be coached by Ken.
It doesn’t matter either way.
We’re ducked.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

If Clarkson couldn't get him interested in his footy then what hope did Donuts have?

Face the fact that Wingard was intent on cruising and there's nothing anyone could do about it.

Post-dynasty coach and potential racist bully Alastair Clarkson not being able to get the most out of disillusioned Aboriginal player. Shocking.

Absolute revisionist bullshit.

 

[Burningleviathan]

I think Duurs biggest problem is Hinkley prioritising defensive running of his wingmen. Polec, Amon were great offensively but struggled defensively for the most part and seen as players we were ok in losing.
Duurs is a product of Ken and it feels like he has been turned into a marathon runner in order to get back and try fill holes.
You can see he has become one paced and looking stuffed by the time he makes any contest as a result.
He never seems to be on the outside as an attacking option when there are contested balls the same way Amon and Polec were.

He will do better at Essendon where he may play a more traditional outside role and be able to supply the outside, running forward option.

The problem for us is that we have a coach that wants his wingmen to play a certain way and I'm not convinced it is actually conducive to playing good football.

 

[JimmyBC]

I'd play Narkle ahead of Duursma every week.

I mean if we were talking about early years Duursma it'd be a different story.

As I said earlier if Duurs performs well at another club it will highlight certain problems here..

 

[Powerade 08]

I mean if we were talking about early years Duursma it'd be a different story.

It was only a handful of games in the first year. Second year he was injured and averaged 13 touches.

Basically played 1 really good game in 4 years, the Richmond one where Edwards took his legs out.

 

[I drive a truck]

One thing I really like about duursma which is hard to teach, and that is passion/emotion. He plays with genuine passion and his emotion shown after scoring goals shows how much he cares about winning. And I’m not talking about the bow and arrow, he has this look in his face, I remember that goal he kicked around quarter time of the 2020 prelim and that really got me fired up seeing that.

But then he goes and drops a regulation chest mark inside 50 in a game where every goal was like a diamond in the rough.


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Regulation chest mark in the wet running back towards goal exactly a fortnight after being seriously knocked out doing the identical thing. Go hard at him. Bloody soft.


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[Addy23]

Anyone would think with this carry on that we're trading Butters.

The only thing wrong with trading out Duursma is that we delisted Bonner.

Delisting Bonner should've happened ages ago

 

[OneGreatClub]

So he has had a medical at Essendon.

 

[Harlott]

All this is still just shuffling deck chairs on the titanic.

 

[johnnysix]

Our biggest problem is we seem incapable of developing talent. If players don't come in with talent they certainly are not getting better in our current system. Hence every year we need to top up on players who have at minimum the talent we require or we're toast. Name a player that has has gone on to improve beyond their "god-given" talent.

We should be spending money on skills coaching and our fitness department.

 

[JohnHinckleyJr]

Dropped that simple chest mark against Richmond years ago should of been cut loose then is a loser

 

[MALTSY]

I'll be gutted if Duurs goes but it might be the only way for him to reach his potential and a grand final.
Hinkley is both a career killer and dream crusher.