Young Blues:Loads of talent, but only flashes of brilliance & poor goal kicking costs

[Funkalicous]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I hear all these comments that Carlton will take 5-6 years to become good again, and I disagree. The only thing we've failed to do this year..... is win games. And as frustrating as it is, at least we've given ourselves a chance to win all those games. IMO, it's not gonna take us too long to learn how to win.

Parrot can talk up individual players all he wants, but the fact is we were coached poorly last night. And as an actual 'team', we're still pretty damn poor.

 

[Blue right through]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

In 5 years time, M Murphy will be seen as the best draft pick of the 00's.

 

[FuManchu]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I hear all these comments that Carlton will take 5-6 years to become good again, and I disagree. The only thing we've failed to do this year..... is win games. And as frustrating as it is, at least we've given ourselves a chance to win all those games. IMO, it's not gonna take us too long to learn how to win.

Parrot can talk up individual players all he wants, but the fact is we were coached poorly last night. And as an actual 'team', we're still pretty damn poor.

how long do you think it will take the blues to get back into the race and do you think Pagan is the right coach, if not who would you think is?

 

[m0nty_]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

So if there is so much of this "massive raw talent", why are the Blues still losing? Another anti-Pagan thread from parrot.

 

[Binxy]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

In 5 years time, M Murphy will be seen as the best draft pick of the 00's.

The kid is pure quality - ran out of steam at the end but the engine will come.

What are Blues supporters thoughts on Deluca?

 

[Ari]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I hear all these comments that Carlton will take 5-6 years to become good again, and I disagree. The only thing we've failed to do this year..... is win games. And as frustrating as it is, at least we've given ourselves a chance to win all those games. IMO, it's not gonna take us too long to learn how to win.

Spot on.

Was exactly what I was going to say. Was a much more entertaining game to watch than last Friday however!

 

[Funkalicous]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

how long do you think it will take the blues to get back into the race and do you think Pagan is the right coach, if not who would you think is?

I don't really know when we'll come good. In fact, it might depend on whether we keep Pagan as coach or not. Personally I think he's had long enough. He was a great coach, but the game might very well be past him now. What we really need is a young coach with new ideas. Even a rookie coach would do us. At least then we might save a bit of money...

 

[The Fireman]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I don't really know when we'll come good. In fact, it might depend on whether we keep Pagan as coach or not. Personally I think he's had long enough. He was a great coach, but the game might very well be past him now. What we really need is a young coach with new ideas. Even a rookie coach would do us. At least then we might save a bit of money...

Yeah , it worked well with us re T.Watson.
You need a guy like Eade.

 

[FuManchu]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I don't really know when we'll come good. In fact, it might depend on whether we keep Pagan as coach or not. Personally I think he's had long enough. He was a great coach, but the game might very well be past him now. What we really need is a young coach with new ideas. Even a rookie coach would do us. At least then we might save a bit of money...

I think Pagan is good when he has the cattle like he did at North, but being such a disciplinarian, he may alienate the young fellas more than endear them. Some of those young fellas need to be nurtured into the game and the intensity and requirements of AFL football. As much as it surprises me to say it, I think even Malthouse has the ability to become a father like figure of the young kids, he certainly stands up for them in the media, he seems very protective. Is that what carlton need to bring this list through, or do they really need to cull the list as it stands and start afresh? Is Lappin and Whitnall and Houlihan going to take you through to the next generation of success?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

In 5 years time, M Murphy will be seen as the best draft pick of the 00's.

maybe, but did you see him squib it bigtime in the last quarter. had the ball, was confronted by a tiger (think Cogs), spun around, dropped the ball, looked around for the umpire and grabbed his head, while the tigers run away with it. was shameful...

 

[parrot]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I think Pagan is good when he has the cattle like he did at North, but being such a disciplinarian, he may alienate the young fellas more than endear them. Some of those young fellas need to be nurtured into the game and the intensity and requirements of AFL football. As much as it surprises me to say it, I think even Malthouse has the ability to become a father like figure of the young kids, ..

I think you’ve reverted to hypotheticals, as most acknowledge that the Pies together with the Dons, have the most ordinary collection of younger players in the comp. There ain’t much to “nuture” in Pie land.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Sorry but Carlton do not have lots of talent. You can believe it all you like, but this current Carlton squad has no hope of ever contesting finals.

 

[jefffff34]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

There ain’t much to “nuture” in Pie land.

Irony.

 

[parrot]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

Irony.

Indeed.

 

[morgoth]

I'm with Parrot, Carlton are the next big thing in waiting. I just hope they do not click next week against the Pies, we will get massacred if they click.

 

[Total_Juddshanks]

When you're happy and proud because you didn't get outright flogged by Richmond, that's probably a sign that things are seriously wrong
a.) at your club.
b.) in your head.

 

[Embers]

Re: Young Blues:Loads of talent, but only flashes of brilliance & poor goal kicking c

All respect I had for Carlton was lost last night

Simpson is just way too slow and small to make it at AFL level, he was outmarked every single time

Bentick has the pace of a mack truck and the turning cirlce of one too

Koutafides is over the hill and is worrying cos he is the only midfielder willing to run forward.

Waite is nothing but a glorified midfielder, to be a forward you have to be able to take a contested mark. Id be surprised if he has taken more then 1 all year

Fevola crumbles at any signs of physical pressure, a taller version of Phil Matera

The defence is non existant, problem is not one of there defenders can take a mark, all they do is spoil and most of the time they dont have the small defenders who can crumb the spoil, you will notice that almost every time the ball enters there defensive 50 some type of score is normally posted. When the times it isnt its because of poor disposal by the opposition

Stevens is a seagull, win a hard ball for once ffs.

Dear I say it, but Houlihan atm is easily there best player and is a certainty to win there best and fairest, they actually seem to be getting worse IMO

 

[FuManchu]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I think you’ve reverted to hypotheticals, as most acknowledge that the Pies together with the Dons, have the most ordinary collection of younger players in the comp. There ain’t much to “nuture” in Pie land.

yes and this season those un-nurtured players from collingwood have been pathetic too

Problem is, those pathetic players have won 3 so far, how many have your talent laden players won so far?

 

[powerpies]

Thanks eddie betts that goal in the last min got me the QQuad.

 

[Dundalis]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I think you’ve reverted to hypotheticals, as most acknowledge that the Pies together with the Dons, have the most ordinary collection of younger players in the comp. There ain’t much to “nuture” in Pie land.

Carlton don't have one current, nor future superstar. I'm quite happy with the Magpie youngsters thank you very much. I would say we probably don't have any future superstars either, but at least we do currently. I also have no doubts about us coming out on top of Carlton, not only from the recent draft, but with our group of youngsters. We will have a great collection of very good players in Swan, Davies, Maxwell, H Shaw, O'Brien and a collection of future guns, in Thomas, T Cloke, Pendlebury and Rusling. Probably no superstars there, but I'm quite happy with it. Certainly Carlton don't have any better. Maybe some better athletes, but not better footballers. We also have two guys who are 23 in Didak and Lonie, who have more class and skill than Carlton's entire team.

 

[Silvagnis]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

I also have no doubts about us coming out on top of Carlton, not only from the recent draft, but with our group of youngsters. We will have a great collection of very good players in Swan, Davies, Maxwell, H Shaw, O'Brien and a collection of future guns, in Thomas, T Cloke, Pendlebury and Rusling. Probably no superstars there, but I'm quite happy with it. Certainly Carlton don't have any better. Maybe some better athletes, but not better footballers. We also have two guys who are 23 in Didak and Lonie, who have more class and skill than Carlton's entire team.

Walker, Murphy, Russell, Hartlett, Betts, Simpson, Bower, Kennedy, Bentick, Carrazzo, Fisher and Waite are the equal of those super youngsters talent wise, so can I have some of what you're smoking?

Thomas isn't even in Murphy's league let alone the basketballer you drafted, speaking of which he kicked a great turnover to Kennedy last week.

When Lonie and Didak go in hard for the ball let me know!

 

[FuManchu]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

Walker, Murphy, Russell, Hartlett, Betts, Simpson, Bower, Kennedy, Bentick, Carrazzo, Fisher and Waite are the equal of those super youngsters talent wise, so can I have some of what you're smoking?

Thomas isn't even in Murphy's league let alone the basketballer you drafted, speaking of which he kicked a great turnover to Kennedy last week.

When Lonie and Didak go in hard for the ball let me know!

so what you are saying is that with your younger talent the equal of ours, then your older talent is useless given the results so far this year!

 

[mediumsizered]

Just like Nick Stevens hey



Carlton = 2006 Wooden Spooners

Watch out here come the Tigers. You can just see the Bulldogs and Weagles shaking in their boots.

FWIW, Stevens 19 disposals, Stafford 2 and we all know what he did with the first one. McLaren 400% more disposals than his opponent Stafford. If he is getting a game ahead of Trent Knobel, Knobel must be in real strife.

 

[Silvagnis]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

so what you are saying is that with your younger talent the equal of ours, then your older talent is useless given the results so far this year!

What's wrong with having young kids standing up now for the future?

Or you would prefer to be a bottom 8 side and be reliant on geriatrics such as Buckley, Burns, Clement, Prestigiacomo Rocca and Wakelin to win you games?

You struggled to knock off Essendon and looked very average in doing so.

Will Egan, Thomas, Swan, R.Shaw and Pendlebury replace them as leaders?

The Pies will be relying on soft players like Fraser, Didak, Lonie and Tarrant to lead in three years and that will be interesting.

 

[Dundalis]

Re: Young Blues. Frustrating but massive potential.

Walker, Murphy, Russell, Hartlett, Betts, Simpson, Bower, Kennedy, Bentick, Carrazzo, Fisher and Waite are the equal of those super youngsters talent wise, so can I have some of what you're smoking?

Thomas isn't even in Murphy's league let alone the basketballer you drafted, speaking of which he kicked a great turnover to Kennedy last week.

When Lonie and Didak go in hard for the ball let me know!

Did he? Well he must be crap then. Pendlebury WILL be a star in the AFL. He is already consistantly among the best for Willi while still recovering from Glandular Fever. The improvement left in him is huge, the kid is class personified. Last week was by FAR his worst game yet. Speaking of which I forgot someone. John Anthony will be a star as well. I'm not going to bag any of your youngsters, but they certainly aren't superior to ours. As for Didak and Lonie they are outside receivers. They receive the ball and damage the opposition with their foot skills. We have plenty of players to go in and get the ball.