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Thanks for the quote.

I found it quirky and interesting overall. Quite forgiving greens in terms of backstops. Nothing really stood out to me.
dog legs with blind shots provide interest but overall i think it would give people the shits.

fairways have suffered with the poor weather and some alien intrusion into the grass which has been dealt with. Looks off colour but imo its dormant which is what grass does in winter. so did not find it a problem at all.

would play again.



Agreed with the final hole. Standing on the fairway i thought hey its kinda like The Australian GC. Then remembered Oz doesnt have that elevated green. In fact the only similarities was bunkers on the hole and the cluhouse to the left. and green grass. yeah its not the same.

i can see many many players thinning or overhitting the green and smacking into those on the practice green.

In close to 40 years of playing the course I have never seen anyone go long enough to make the practice green - even the old one which was closer and to the left. The only possibility would be by taking about 4 clubs too many or maybe catastrophically thinning a bunker shot.

I have seen my late father collect a tee ball on the full to the back on the dogleg 4th! Not sure how you define a dogleg, but other than 4, 7 and 8, not sure there are any others?

To my mind, there would only be one blind approach on the whole course - 6. Maybe 4, 7 and 14 if you make a poor tee shot - which means you probably can’t make the green anyway.


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In close to 40 years of playing the course I have never seen anyone go long enough to make the practice green - even the old one which was closer and to the left. The only possibility would be by taking about 4 clubs too many or maybe catastrophically thinning a bunker shot.

I have seen my late father collect a tee ball on the full to the back on the dogleg 4th! Not sure how you define a dogleg, but other than 4, 7 and 8, not sure there are any others?

To my mind, there would only be one blind approach on the whole course - 6. Maybe 4, 7 and 14 if you make a poor tee shot - which means you probably can’t make the green anyway.


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You make valid points. I may have overestimated the number of blind or dog legs. But I felt it during the round which of course can be attributed to lack of course knowledge.

Making the practice green is a possibility. It is via a thinnin shot for sure. Again it was the feels being right side before the bunkers that created this aura.
 
Beautifully maintained, can’t fault it.
The 18th is possibly the worst finishing hole I’ve played anywhere….hitting up to a green 20-30mts??? Above the fairway. Some of the sideways sloping fairways could be improved, but quite a few really good holes as well.
You can only work with the land you have so in general it’s a pretty good course, Portsea is better (layout wise) imo.
Sorry I’m not peternorth 🤭

Don’t play Augusta. You’ll hate that finish. I am a biased fan of the 18th. Plenty of risk-reward for long hitters, one of the few par 4s on the course that require a long iron approach- which is actually a weakness of the course in general given it’s shortness. The tee box tries to send you right - which just illustrates an evil of course architecture. And the view of it from the clubhouse is awesome. Pretty tough not to have an elevated first tee and 18th green when you (logically) build the clubhouse on the highest point of the course.

Probably liked the course a bit more when P Thomson was in charge of the architecture - it’s easier nowadays with a lot of the rough being cleaned up. But given the members are generally old duffers, I can see the reasoning in making it easier, or “more playable”, as they say.

BTW, if you prefer Portsea, there’s a decent little shack currently up for sale that overlooks the 4th green/5th tee. Although it is one of the many dumb modern builds down there that didn’t consider(or thought it could overcome) the prevailing Southerly.

Can never see how people prefer Portsea. It is in lesser condition, doesn’t have a practice fairway, etc. Was a shame the merger failed.


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I really enjoyed the clubhouse at Sorrento. Beautiful and historical mix.

The driving range was good enough for a warm up. Could be better but given the land and location where else could it go? So work with it and use it. Could be much worse ie yarra. But ultimately you just need an area where you can stand and swing a club. Could imagine it being a tricky station during club champs with the volume of players.
 
I really enjoyed the clubhouse at Sorrento. Beautiful and historical mix.

The driving range was good enough for a warm up. Could be better but given the land and location where else could it go? So work with it and use it. Could be much worse ie yarra. But ultimately you just need an area where you can stand and swing a club. Could imagine it being a tricky station during club champs with the volume of players.

Good spot - the committee is about to announce an overhaul of the practice fairway. Definitely a weakness of the course - in terms of length and the ordinary look of the landing area. There’s also a second, rarely used, practice area that goes across the 18th fairway. Where you can hit shots up to 120 metres using your own balls.


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Striking the ball so well at the moment, but silly mistakes not allowing me to get the rewards. Off 19 at the moment; Sunday at Marangaroo was 3 over after 7, then a 9 on the 8th followed by a double after a lost ball off the tee on the Par 5 9th. 11 over at the turn, disappointed, but confident I could get back on track. Kept it to 15 over with 1 hole to play. Quadruple bogey for a 19 over.
Next day at Sun City, much tougher course. Nothing worse than a double, 70% of fairways, playing consistent draws with irons, woods and driver for the first time ever. 5 3 putts and 39 putts total for 18 over.
Wembley in a PGN comp today, hopefully it all comes together.
 
Good spot - the committee is about to announce an overhaul of the practice fairway. Definitely a weakness of the course - in terms of length and the ordinary look of the landing area. There’s also a second, rarely used, practice area that goes across the 18th fairway. Where you can hit shots up to 120 metres using your own balls.


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Using own balls on a driving range? An interesting concept. i cant picture where that is. is that to the left of the tee box?
 

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After a great last round, I parred my first two holes last night and felt like Scotty Sch. Stood on the tee on 12and decided I should try and hit a draw (I can’t), doubles the easiest par 5 on the course. Greens have been cored so I’ll use that excuse for some missed putts. Overall, ball striking is good and my chipping is still excellent. Just got to make better decisions.
 
Royal H has two practice fairways. One for range balls, the other for members to hit their own.
hit your own, say 8 iron and go fetch?

PK has a short game area where own balls are used. That's somewhere in the realm of 50m-70m depending on which green
 
hit your own, say 8 iron and go fetch?

PK has a short game area where own balls are used. That's somewhere in the realm of 50m-70m depending on which green
It’s our old main range. It’s huge. Probably 150m (w) x 250m (l). Also has a shallow fairway bunker to practice in. It’s not really maintained to any high level. But yeah, hit your balls and go and pick them up. The club is unsuccessfully trying to subdivide and sell this land without any great success due to council. So it won’t be there forever. We’ve also got a 140m practice hole. I love hitting balls on this.
The new driving range which is grass and artificial grass tees. A chipping green and a seperate putting green. We pay for our range balls which is a bit agricultural for some of the mainlanders that come down for a game.😁
I read ages ago that multiple ranges was a prerequisite for hosting the Australian Open. Not sure if it’s still the case.
Our facilities are easily the best in the state and a key reason I joined over Tasmania GC.
 
Don’t play Augusta. You’ll hate that finish. I am a biased fan of the 18th. Plenty of risk-reward for long hitters, one of the few par 4s on the course that require a long iron approach- which is actually a weakness of the course in general given it’s shortness. The tee box tries to send you right - which just illustrates an evil of course architecture. And the view of it from the clubhouse is awesome. Pretty tough not to have an elevated first tee and 18th green when you (logically) build the clubhouse on the highest point of the course.

Probably liked the course a bit more when P Thomson was in charge of the architecture - it’s easier nowadays with a lot of the rough being cleaned up. But given the members are generally old duffers, I can see the reasoning in making it easier, or “more playable”, as they say.

BTW, if you prefer Portsea, there’s a decent little shack currently up for sale that overlooks the 4th green/5th tee. Although it is one of the many dumb modern builds down there that didn’t consider(or thought it could overcome) the prevailing Southerly.

Can never see how people prefer Portsea. It is in lesser condition, doesn’t have a practice fairway, etc. Was a shame the merger failed.


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I probably was a bit severe in my criticism of the 18th...still don't like it.
Its similar in a way to 18 at the Dunes (but more severe), in that you can never see the bottom half of the flagstick from the fairway, and you think you've hit a great shot and get up to the green and find your ball nowhere near the hole.
Re Portsea, its the layout i prefer, not the actual conditioning etc.
If i had to play 5 rounds at either i'd play 3 at Portsea and 2 at Sorrento.
The walk from 9/18 back up to the clubhouse at Portsea is a killer.... i hate it.
Spot on re merger
 
Using own balls on a driving range? An interesting concept. i cant picture where that is. is that to the left of the tee box?
Yep - left and low. Not even sure they encourage it anymore as they often use the landing area as a turf nursery.

Using your own balls encourages two things - good to work on using your actual game ball in practice(but who am I kidding, shag bags are always full of crap balls) and ball collection is a good feedback mechanism.

See the little practice bunker down and to the left of 18 tee? Next to that. Note also the direction of that tee which tries to trick you into aiming right?

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I probably was a bit severe in my criticism of the 18th...still don't like it.
Its similar in a way to 18 at the Dunes (but more severe), in that you can never see the bottom half of the flagstick from the fairway, and you think you've hit a great shot and get up to the green and find your ball nowhere near the hole.
Re Portsea, its the layout i prefer, not the actual conditioning etc.
If i had to play 5 rounds at either i'd play 3 at Portsea and 2 at Sorrento.
The walk from 9/18 back up to the clubhouse at Portsea is a killer.... i hate it.
Spot on re merger
I can understand why they made the change(ie. sell land to make some cash), but I reckon Portsea had a better finish when the clubhouse was on the other side of the course.
 

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