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This is a separate civil action by Reynolds.I assume this is still the case which makes her pursuit of a private individual even more despicable.
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This is a separate civil action by Reynolds.I assume this is still the case which makes her pursuit of a private individual even more despicable.
I read she is.Is she bankrolling it herself do you know?
It's never been about the money. Even Reynolds has said that.Wasn’t it always that?
and i love it that you believe her.I read she is.
ha ha........weeeellll.and i love it that you believe her.
Bruce Lehrmann did not have secret financial backers funding his failed defamation case against Network 10 and Lisa Wilkinson, a court has heard.
Bruce Lehrmann did not have secret financial backers funding his failed defamation case against Network 10 and Lisa Wilkinson, a court has heard this morning.
As part of their efforts to recover their legal costs from Lehrmann, Network 10 was allowed to issue a notice to produce aimed at finding out if the ex-Liberal staffer had financial backers.
In answer to the notice to produce, Lehrmann’s solicitor told the court that there was no agreement between Lehrmann and any other parties to pay his lawyers’ fees.
“There is none such agreement, there is only an agreement between my firm and the applicant,” Mr Svilans said.
“That agreement makes no reference to any third party.”
Justice Lee added that the agreement stated that Lehrmann only had to pay his lawyers if he won the lawsuit.
(i.e. a no win no fee agreement)
“So it was a conditional costs agreement whereby there’s no obligation to pay the amount of costs in event the proceedings were unsuccessful,” Justice Lee told the court.
Justice Lee will now hand down a decision on the payment of Network 10 and Ms Wilkinson’s legal bills - and he is due to hand down his costs judgment on Friday afternoon at 2.15pm.
Justice Lee previously told the court late that there would be a costs order in Ten’s favour.
This is likely to be the last court hearting on the Lehrmann defamation trial, unless he goes ahead with an appeal (highly unlikely).
He has lost his defamation action and his legal team - whose fees must be close to $1m - have born the financial cost of that failure. Not sure where Channel Ten will get payment from either, assuming Lehrmann has spent the $455,000 he got from reaching settlement with the ABC and NewsCorp.
Lehrmann’s no-win, no-fee agreement with lawyers revealed in court
Network Ten sought access to documents revealing whether the former Liberal staffer had financial assistance in bringing his multimillion-dollar defamation case.www.theage.com.au
Well, Lehrmann did warn them on national TV:<Makes note not to use Mark O'Brien legal in future defamation actions>
Hands up all those that think that this may be technically true but also complete and utter bullshit.Bruce Lehrmann did not have secret financial backers funding his failed defamation case against Network 10 and Lisa Wilkinson, a court has heard.
Bruce Lehrmann did not have secret financial backers funding his failed defamation case against Network 10 and Lisa Wilkinson, a court has heard this morning.
As part of their efforts to recover their legal costs from Lehrmann, Network 10 was allowed to issue a notice to produce aimed at finding out if the ex-Liberal staffer had financial backers.
In answer to the notice to produce, Lehrmann’s solicitor told the court that there was no agreement between Lehrmann and any other parties to pay his lawyers’ fees.
“There is none such agreement, there is only an agreement between my firm and the applicant,” Mr Svilans said.
“That agreement makes no reference to any third party.”
Justice Lee added that the agreement stated that Lehrmann only had to pay his lawyers if he won the lawsuit.
(i.e. a no win no fee agreement)
“So it was a conditional costs agreement whereby there’s no obligation to pay the amount of costs in event the proceedings were unsuccessful,” Justice Lee told the court.
Justice Lee will now hand down a decision on the payment of Network 10 and Ms Wilkinson’s legal bills - and he is due to hand down his costs judgment on Friday afternoon at 2.15pm.
Justice Lee previously told the court late that there would be a costs order in Ten’s favour.
This is likely to be the last court hearting on the Lehrmann defamation trial, unless he goes ahead with an appeal (highly unlikely).
He has lost his defamation action and his legal team - whose fees must be close to $1m - have born the financial cost of that failure. Not sure where Channel Ten will get payment from either, assuming Lehrmann has spent the $455,000 he got from reaching settlement with the ABC and NewsCorp.
Lehrmann’s no-win, no-fee agreement with lawyers revealed in court
Network Ten sought access to documents revealing whether the former Liberal staffer had financial assistance in bringing his multimillion-dollar defamation case.www.theage.com.au
I would assume 10's lawyers have their assurances from 10. It is up to 10 to recover the costs - not their lawyers.Hands up all those that think that this may be technically true but also complete and utter bullshit.
Also does this mean his lawyers are on the hook for 10/Wikinsons legal bills or does their contract with Lehrman only cover his side?
I find it hard to believe the law firm would take this on without assurances from a 3rd party.
I think Ice-Wolf meant are Bruce's laywers up for the courts & CH10 lawyer costs or is Bruce.I would assume 10's lawyers have their assurances from 10. It is up to 10 to recover the costs - not their lawyers.
Yeah that's what I was getting at, it appears that Bruce's lawyers if we take their words at face value have made some pretty stunning calls already in regards to the case so it's a valid question.I think Ice-Wolf meant are Bruce's laywers up for the courts & CH10 lawyer costs or is Bruce.
I'd be stunned if any lawyer took on a case where they'd not only not be paid if they lost but they'd also cover any costs in lost defamation
I appreciate that you're taking a break from this. And I'll hold my attack on your post until then.I'm going to respond to your post above CM86 and then will be taking an extended break from the topic.
Can be a bit unhealthy for all of us to be honest, which I'm sure you would agree.
As early as 16 April 2019.
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Following an Evidence-in-Chief interview.
Because nobody should view the CCTV until they give an an Evidence-in-Chief interview.
Section I.6 details a number of Brittany's concerns on the CCTV and then concludes that the whole issue is a "furphy":
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I'm not 100% sure of what you mean here, but as above, the footage was preserved and it was used in Lehrmann's criminal trial.
There is some dispute about there being 100% of the footage, which the police says is whole, but Drumgold says isn't and even blamed police for deleting footage (before recanting). Ultimately, the CCTV footage, shows that Higgins was very drunk and it's logical that she was, so I'm not sure what the supposed extra footage (if any) would add to that.
I don't know how "common" it is or isn't for there to be 'wee hours' of the morning access that would be much longer than just picking up keys or documents. There was a woman who entered in at around the same time as them, so after hours access, even on a Saturday morning, does happen.
Security were right to have suspicions on Lehrmann and Higgins' behaviour. I thought their check ins could have been a more assertive. But ultimately, it's not like they had the lens of 20:20 hindsight either, so that leap to a sexual assault having probably having taken place is a big leap and Higgins gave then assurances that she was ok.
As above, the context of 'common occurrence' in the context that I read it would be that there is sufficient suspicion that an event happened in the suite that was so egregious that they best put a police tape across the main door and call in forensics.
But it wasn't in security's 'mind's eye'. Did they kick-on and drink some more? Did they do drugs? Were they using the base to procure drugs? Did they have consensual sex? Were one or both of them stealing documents? Was Higgins simply so sickly drunk that she needed time to cool off?
There were so many probabilities as to what may or may not have happened, that rape would be pretty low on the probability list. The cleaner Carlos Ramos was told to look for "signs of a party", demonstrating the mindset of security.
It is well documented why Lehrmann was sacked:
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Mishandling confidential documents or lying to get into Parliament House are not "common actions".
As above, the "fireable offence" wasn't a part of the sexual assault allegation.
As to support, Higgins was taken to police by Brown, as recommended by Reynolds.
Higgins had access to the Employee Assistance Program that Sam Maiden scoffed at as effectively being token support, but it is a genuine independent extension to most businesses nowadays.
Brown gave Higgins multiple options as to where she could work from, including Gold Coast, Canberra or Perth, but couldn't get her a gig in the Brisbane campaign headquarters.
Higgins sent Reynolds flowers thanking her for her support.
Higgins also sent Brown this heartfelt text and a bottle of champagne (a text that was missing on Higgins' phone):
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While there may a better system that could be put in place going forward is a fair argument and I hope there systemic change has already happened, but Higgins had support.
No problem!
This is such a great post, thank you.If I couldn't remember being sexually assaulted and my workplace denied be being able to see footage of what might have happened to me unless I was pressing charges, I'd be upset too.
I'm not saying this is Reynolds doing anything wrong, but another sign of a terrible system at work against the victim. Why would you deny a drunk victim the right to view what might have happened to them. And how can Parliament as an employer deny their employee access to that vision, regardless of AFP involvement?
Did Reynolds and the Government not have the ability to help Higgins see what had happened to her?
Reynolds' behaviour continues to be punitive, in my opinion, which suggests she likely wouldn't have lifted a finger to help in the past either.
I would guess that Lehrman would really want to appeal the ruling so that it can't be presented as fact in his Toowoomba criminal trial. But with having to pay the legal fees as penalty, he'll be broke. Nobody will take it on as no-win no-fee and surely even Channel 7 would have to stay out of it.
He'll have a hard enough time funding his criminal defence, let alone the criminal defence as well as a Supreme Court appeal. But without the Supreme Court appeal, the criminal defence would have all sorts of problems.
‘course he will.I read today that he'll run screaming to AFSA to declare bankruptcy as he hasn't "worked" since 2021.