Review Dogs smash Eagles by 101 points

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doggies ftw said:
Timmy was silly good tonight wasn’t he bloody hell, not sure what we do about our 2nd ruck going forward - tonight didn’t help sort that issue, probably just made it more complicated 😅
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Not at all it just showed what is obvious that Sweet needs to work on his all round ground because he won’t get much ruck time when English plays
 
Charlie Bucket said:
It was like English got his little brother (Sweet) to fill in for his footy team because they were a few short.

There was a universe sized difference in their impacts on our game.

English is becoming a beast and we’ll soon start seeing those types of games against all opposition ruckman.

If we can bring in a more mobile ruck than Sweet that can impact inside 50 as well as hold his own at stoppages, we’ll have a scary Midfield/Ruck group.

An exciting prospect.
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Darcy will be the one
 
Snarls Barkley said:
It’s hard to read too much into this because West Coast are horrendous but I think there are a lot of good signs.

Looks like we’re getting close to a team that makes sense.

Williams looks like a different player on the wing and is the best suited player on our list to play that role. McNeil, West and Weightman have the potential to be a strong pressure forward unit and all have additional layers to their game.

Sweet offers very little around the ground but it was nice to have a second ruckman, I hope they experiment with it a little more. I think he might be off more use against stronger rucks, English was dominating the taps and around the ground so there was little need to give Sweet an extended run in the middle. In a game like against Carlton where Pittonet was killing English in the taps, being able to shift to Sweet might be more useful. We’ll see if he gets more opportunity. Think the defense is close to our ideal set up, only question would be whether we want to add Crozier as an additional interceptor but I quite like the back 7 as it is
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If only we had a hard at it small fwd mid who could average around a goal a game in their first 6 games or so
 
perro_loco said:
That was just beautiful. Smashing those flogs in their home ground. But I really like were the lesser players in McNeil, Sweet, West (is getting better each game) and McCoom-ba man!!! Love this guy. Goes hard at the ball, improves each week and kicks goals. He created a couple of goals, his kicking is getting better. Henceforth, McComb will now be called the Macumba man. Magic that is there but not seen until it hits you. GRET WIN AND GOD DOGS!!!
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Lucky we didn’t drop the two macs a couple of weeks ago
 
dogwatch said:
It's been a good while coming, but West looks to have secured his spot. And probably McNeil too.
Amazing what a bit of continuity does for a marginal player. They are getting better game by game.

Williams' change of position seems to have rescued his season. He was among our best again.
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McNeil ahead of West for mine his pace pressure and marking are crucial in the role he plays
 
Maverick Dog said:
English is now competent in the ruck contests but his athleticism is just insane. He is such a weapon as he is playing as an additional mid who takes marks, a goal threat and has great skills. if this form continues he is a game changer. As mention earlier this does cause a 2nd ruck issue. English needs to play 80%ruck and 20% rest on bench. Hopefully Bruce can come in and provide relief or even TOB. Schache is the other option for me in front of Cordy.

Bont is looking like he is moving better and may soon be over his ankle.

West is definitely ahead of Scott, Vanders, McComb and McNeil. The guy is a contested beast and his skills are far much better than I thought. Has great vision, hands are elite. The guy will be a great inside mid in a year or 2. Let’s hope Bevo’s treatment of him in favouring players so much inferior will not lead him to leave us. The kid will play 250 plus games.
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No way is West ahead of McNeil, he is good with the ball but doesn’t have the closing pace of McNeil. I know stats and rating points are not everything but West was below both the Macs last night. He played well but still not ahead of McNeil
 
Bulldogs Legend said:
No way is West ahead of McNeil, he is good with the ball but doesn’t have the closing pace of McNeil. I know stats and rating points are not everything but West was below both the Macs last night. He played well but still not ahead of McNeil
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I respectfully disagree! West is a natural footballer, built for finals football pressure! Stronger than the others, Sticks tackles and creates pressures turnovers. Football IQ so far ahead of McComb, Mcniel and Scott. It’s quite a mystery that West didn’t get similar opportunities last year. Westy and Weightman forward pressure is really helping our side!
 

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Bulldogs Legend said:
No way is West ahead of McNeil, he is good with the ball but doesn’t have the closing pace of McNeil. I know stats and rating points are not everything but West was below both the Macs last night. He played well but still not ahead of McNeil
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Not sure we watched the same game. West was brilliant and his off-ball pressure was elite. When he tackles, the ball is locked in. Mcneil played well but he's still prone to letting people break his tackles easily.

Westy's hands around the stoppage are also very creative. McNeil is nowhere near his level of footy IQ.
 
Dale4captain said:
Not sure we watched the same game. West was brilliant and his off-ball pressure was elite. When he tackles, the ball is locked in. Mcneil played well but he's still prone to letting people break his tackles easily.

Westy's hands around the stoppage are also very creative. McNeil is nowhere near his level of footy IQ.
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I think both are in our best 22, but West clearly has more impact around the contest.
 
Bulldogs Legend said:
No way is West ahead of McNeil, he is good with the ball but doesn’t have the closing pace of McNeil. I know stats and rating points are not everything but West was below both the Macs last night. He played well but still not ahead of McNeil
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Given they play very different roles what is the value of this debate. West is bringing a whole lot more to his role now almost redefining it and is a contested player with clean hands and improving skills.

McNeil is an outside player who has speed as well as high pressure skills when they have the ball

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Dale4captain said:
Not sure we watched the same game. West was brilliant and his off-ball pressure was elite. When he tackles, the ball is locked in. Mcneil played well but he's still prone to letting people break his tackles easily.

Westy's hands around the stoppage are also very creative. McNeil is nowhere near his level of footy IQ.
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Exactly my opinion - you must of played at a high level too!
 
Dale4captain said:
Not sure we watched the same game. West was brilliant and his off-ball pressure was elite. When he tackles, the ball is locked in. Mcneil played well but he's still prone to letting people break his tackles easily.

Westy's hands around the stoppage are also very creative. McNeil is nowhere near his level of footy IQ.
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Dale4captain, the voice of reason once again
 
lachy said:
Given they play very different roles what is the value of this debate. West is bringing a whole lot more to his role now almost redefining it and is a contested player with clean hands and improving skills.

McNeil is an outside player who has speed as well as high pressure skills when they have the ball

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West’s hands and reaction time in tight spaces remind me of a previous Bulldogs multiple B& F winner . The apple fell close to the tree.

On another Eagles bashing note, some of their fans delight in mocking low crowds in our state and want us to merge merge merge. Hmm. Any more empty seats at home games and they’ll have to borrow some tarps.
 
liked McNeil's game
Williams return to form is pleasing
He's a good spoiler, has speed and endurance and size and his kicking has improved but Gardner has got to be the worst groundball player in the AFL, heart in mouth every time, Oliver do you have his Champion data rating for groundball?

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bigboysdontcry said:
I respectfully disagree! West is a natural footballer, built for finals football pressure! Stronger than the others, Sticks tackles and creates pressures turnovers. Football IQ so far ahead of McComb, Mcniel and Scott. It’s quite a mystery that West didn’t get similar opportunities last year. Westy and Weightman forward pressure is really helping our side!
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Not sure West pressures enough when the ball isn’t around. Will have a better look this week seeing him live. He certainly is good when the ball is in the vicinity but that’s only half the modern game.
 
Dale4captain said:
Not sure we watched the same game. West was brilliant and his off-ball pressure was elite. When he tackles, the ball is locked in. Mcneil played well but he's still prone to letting people break his tackles easily.

Westy's hands around the stoppage are also very creative. McNeil is nowhere near his level of footy IQ.
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Maybe my TV is different to yours as I find it hard to judge off ball work when not at the ground. Footy IQ perhaps but as I originally pointed out both statistically and in rating points both Macs played better. That does not mean West played badly just that the independent analytics does not back your assessment in last nights game
 
lachy said:
Given they play very different roles what is the value of this debate. West is bringing a whole lot more to his role now almost redefining it and is a contested player with clean hands and improving skills.

McNeil is an outside player who has speed as well as high pressure skills when they have the ball

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It’s BF there dosent need to be a point but now you mention it my underlying point is that there have been multiple glowing reviews of West on here and other socials and don’t get me wrong I’m not saying he played badly just that others did better if your looking at the independent stats and ratings
 

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