News NMFC & Tassie (the mass debate re our future there, the academy, attending advice)

[grimface_87]

Didn't see this in any of the comments above, massive for us and the ongoing relocation narrative:



New stadium needed for Tasmania licence: McLachlan - New stadium needed for Tasmania licence: McLachlan

 

[shintemaster]

Didn't see this in any of the comments above, massive for us and the ongoing relocation narrative:

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New stadium needed for Tasmania licence: McLachlan - New stadium needed for Tasmania licence: McLachlan

Kicks the can down the road either way (not necessarily a bad thing - I prefer a 5-6 year lead in). A new stadium would take years to build even if soil ready today. BTW - It's horse shit from the AFL. Whilst Hobart's current stadium is an issue as it is essentially in a residential area with no PT infrastructure it would still be possible to start a team out of that stadium and actually use the revenue and supporters of all teams to build a better option in the long term.

Masked Avenger said it best though. Tassie got screwed over by plain simple greed and hubris a decade ago and it will be hard for that to be undone.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Dan]

NOPE!

 

[big_e]

11 games in Melbourne and 11 in Tasmania.

So we never travel to Qld, NSW, WA or SA?

Yeah, rightio Eddie.

 

[Only Forwards]

I have no idea how he thinks other clubs would ever afford any club such a vast amount of advantage.

22 games over a maximum of what 3 venues?

With Draft and Salary cap concessions.

No way would what he’s suggested get legs.

 

[big_e]

I have no idea how he thinks other clubs would ever afford any club such a vast amount of advantage.

22 games over a maximum of what 3 venues?

With Draft and Salary cap concessions.

No way would what he’s suggested get legs.

He doesn't want it to get legs.

He wants it to get clicks.

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

11 games in Melbourne and 11 in Tasmania.

So we never travel to Qld, NSW, WA or SA?

Yeah, rightio Edd

I have no idea how he thinks other clubs would ever afford any club such a vast amount of advantage.

22 games over a maximum of what 3 venues?

With Draft and Salary cap concessions.

No way would what he’s suggested get legs.

If they signed off on that I must say I would consider it?

 

[BoomerRoo]

Yep, that's gone down well with us Tasmanians Eddie.......

 

[big_e]

If they signed off on that I must say I would consider it?

Fitzroy fans were told they would be guaranteed a certain number of Melbourne games each year and it has been slowly whittled away.

Also I think strategically we should continue to say a flat no. Don't even entertain it.

There is no deal good enough to convince members to move. None.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

11 games in Melbourne and 11 in Tasmania.

So we never travel to Qld, NSW, WA or SA?

Yeah, rightio Eddie.

And if you do the rudimentary maths, it requires 3 clubs to give up a home game to allow this hare-brained scheme to come to fruition.

 

[giantroo]

McGuire‘s radical plan to make North Tassie’s team

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/tasmanian-afl-team-eddie-mcguire-says-north-melbourne-should-play-11-games-in-tassie/news-story/6dd17d1ae93fbc5153d6bdc1cd4552b8

 

[giantroo]

Tasmanian AFL team: Eddie McGuire says North Melbourne should play 11 games in Tassie​

Eddie McGuire has warned plans for a stand-alone Tasmanian team are close to collapse and declared one of three current teams should consider making the Apple Isle home.

Glenn McFarlane

3 min read
June 15, 2022 - 9:45PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

0 comments




01:23
Is Tasmania ready for the AFL?
AFL boss Gillon McLachlan says Tasmania will need a new stadium if they are to be considered for a 19th stand alone team in the future.
View more related videos



Eddie McGuire has unveiled a radical proposal that could see North Melbourne play 11 games in Melbourne and 11 games in Tasmania each season with legendary coach Alastair Clarkson at the helm.
The former Collingwood president told Footy Classified on Wednesday his hybrid plan involving the Kangaroos could swiftly turn them from struggling club into football superpower, due to a raft of financial, drafting and coaching concessions he said could be on offer.
He stressed there was a growing number of AFL clubs reluctant to grant a stand-alone 19th franchise for Tasmania, which could torpedo the state’s dreams of having its own side.

North Melbourne has been steadfast in its resolve that it would never consider playing a large number of games in Tasmania and would never relocate.

The Tasmanian Government has also emphatically pinned its financial commitment to only a stand-alone new franchise.
But McGuire claimed his plan wasn’t a relocation, but a reshaping of the Kangaroos’ future with “22 home games” in two states, while still being based at their Arden St headquarters.
“This plan is to fast-track North Melbourne’s recovery and to give its supporters hope,” McGuire told the Herald Sun of his plan.

This is actually about giving them something, not taking things away from them.
“Under this plan, the Kangaroos would end up essentially with 22 home games while still being based in Melbourne and the other clubs would have to suck that up.

“It means North Melbourne’s future would be secure and Tasmania would get a team that could come into the competition in a meaningful, highly competitive way from the outset.”
Under McGuire’s plan, the Kangaroos would receive:
● A GUARANTEED 11 games each season in Melbourne (one fewer than this year) and 11 games in Tasmania
● A $20 MILLION cash injection from the AFL as well as the possibility of financial support from the Tasmanian Government and the option for private investment
● SIGNIFICANT draft concessions for three consecutive drafts as well as academy access in Tasmania
● THE option of an ambassadorial/senior coaching role for four-time premiership coach and former Kangaroos player Alastair Clarkson, which he says would be akin to the recruitment of master coach Ron Barassi in the early 1970s, resulting in the club’s first two flags.
● COMMERCIALLY beneficial fixture arrangements for blockbusters matches in Melbourne and Tasmania as well as premium slots in the next TV rights deal
● FREE access to streaming platforms such as Kayo for its members.
McGuire said the AFL would need to help bankroll an aggressive attempt to land Clarkson, who is desperate to chase a fifth AFL premiership as coach.
He said the league would also need to allow for most of his $1 million-plus salary to be outside the soft cap to bolster the coaching team around him.
“Getting Clarkson would be like Barassi going to Arden Street in the early 1970s and instead of the 10-year rule the Kangaroos used back then, this time the AFL would give them significant draft concessions,” he said.
“I think Clarko would do this in a heartbeat if you gave the club all those draft concessions.”
McGuire also said embattled Kangaroos coach David Noble could potentially stay on at the club in a director of football role.
McGuire said former Carlton president John Elliott had a plan to access the Sydney market in a similar way when he led the Blues at a time when the Swans were under serious threat.
He too had a similar thought for Collingwood on the Gold Coast after North Melbourne knocked back moving to Queensland in 2007.

Eddie McGuire says St Kilda is one of the clubs which should be considered for relocation.

“This is not about relocating the North Melbourne Football Club,” he said. “It is about giving them the best chance for success while still being based in Melbourne.

“It is also about getting more football in Tasmania.

​

“If they do this deal, they would go from a team without much hope to a team that would become one of the exciting teams of the competition.”

McGuire said his plan would also be an option for other clubs including potentially St Kilda and Hawthorn, who have had connections to Tasmania, and could be enacted for the start of the next broadcasting deal.

 

[Mr Taswegian]

Tasmanian AFL team: Eddie McGuire says North Melbourne should play 11 games in Tassie​

Eddie McGuire has warned plans for a stand-alone Tasmanian team are close to collapse and declared one of three current teams should consider making the Apple Isle home.

Glenn McFarlane

3 min read
June 15, 2022 - 9:45PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

0 comments




01:23
Is Tasmania ready for the AFL?
AFL boss Gillon McLachlan says Tasmania will need a new stadium if they are to be considered for a 19th stand alone team in the future.
View more related videos



Eddie McGuire has unveiled a radical proposal that could see North Melbourne play 11 games in Melbourne and 11 games in Tasmania each season with legendary coach Alastair Clarkson at the helm.
The former Collingwood president told Footy Classified on Wednesday his hybrid plan involving the Kangaroos could swiftly turn them from struggling club into football superpower, due to a raft of financial, drafting and coaching concessions he said could be on offer.
He stressed there was a growing number of AFL clubs reluctant to grant a stand-alone 19th franchise for Tasmania, which could torpedo the state’s dreams of having its own side.

North Melbourne has been steadfast in its resolve that it would never consider playing a large number of games in Tasmania and would never relocate.

The Tasmanian Government has also emphatically pinned its financial commitment to only a stand-alone new franchise.
But McGuire claimed his plan wasn’t a relocation, but a reshaping of the Kangaroos’ future with “22 home games” in two states, while still being based at their Arden St headquarters.
“This plan is to fast-track North Melbourne’s recovery and to give its supporters hope,” McGuire told the Herald Sun of his plan.

This is actually about giving them something, not taking things away from them.
“Under this plan, the Kangaroos would end up essentially with 22 home games while still being based in Melbourne and the other clubs would have to suck that up.

“It means North Melbourne’s future would be secure and Tasmania would get a team that could come into the competition in a meaningful, highly competitive way from the outset.”
Under McGuire’s plan, the Kangaroos would receive:
● A GUARANTEED 11 games each season in Melbourne (one fewer than this year) and 11 games in Tasmania
● A $20 MILLION cash injection from the AFL as well as the possibility of financial support from the Tasmanian Government and the option for private investment
● SIGNIFICANT draft concessions for three consecutive drafts as well as academy access in Tasmania
● THE option of an ambassadorial/senior coaching role for four-time premiership coach and former Kangaroos player Alastair Clarkson, which he says would be akin to the recruitment of master coach Ron Barassi in the early 1970s, resulting in the club’s first two flags.
● COMMERCIALLY beneficial fixture arrangements for blockbusters matches in Melbourne and Tasmania as well as premium slots in the next TV rights deal
● FREE access to streaming platforms such as Kayo for its members.
McGuire said the AFL would need to help bankroll an aggressive attempt to land Clarkson, who is desperate to chase a fifth AFL premiership as coach.
He said the league would also need to allow for most of his $1 million-plus salary to be outside the soft cap to bolster the coaching team around him.
“Getting Clarkson would be like Barassi going to Arden Street in the early 1970s and instead of the 10-year rule the Kangaroos used back then, this time the AFL would give them significant draft concessions,” he said.
“I think Clarko would do this in a heartbeat if you gave the club all those draft concessions.”
McGuire also said embattled Kangaroos coach David Noble could potentially stay on at the club in a director of football role.
McGuire said former Carlton president John Elliott had a plan to access the Sydney market in a similar way when he led the Blues at a time when the Swans were under serious threat.
He too had a similar thought for Collingwood on the Gold Coast after North Melbourne knocked back moving to Queensland in 2007.

Eddie McGuire says St Kilda is one of the clubs which should be considered for relocation.

“This is not about relocating the North Melbourne Football Club,” he said. “It is about giving them the best chance for success while still being based in Melbourne.

“It is also about getting more football in Tasmania.

​

“If they do this deal, they would go from a team without much hope to a team that would become one of the exciting teams of the competition.”

McGuire said his plan would also be an option for other clubs including potentially St Kilda and Hawthorn, who have had connections to Tasmania, and could be enacted for the start of the next broadcasting deal.

The Tasmania government has said they are only interested in a home grown team or nothing.

 

[Nylex]

Keep Walkn Eddie

 

[prodigalson]

You can see the brown smelly stuff dribbling from his lips

 

[big_e]

Tasmanian AFL team: Eddie McGuire says North Melbourne should play 11 games in Tassie​

Eddie McGuire has warned plans for a stand-alone Tasmanian team are close to collapse and declared one of three current teams should consider making the Apple Isle home.

Glenn McFarlane

3 min read
June 15, 2022 - 9:45PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
0 comments




01:23
Is Tasmania ready for the AFL?
AFL boss Gillon McLachlan says Tasmania will need a new stadium if they are to be considered for a 19th stand alone team in the future.
View more related videos



Eddie McGuire has unveiled a radical proposal that could see North Melbourne play 11 games in Melbourne and 11 games in Tasmania each season with legendary coach Alastair Clarkson at the helm.
The former Collingwood president told Footy Classified on Wednesday his hybrid plan involving the Kangaroos could swiftly turn them from struggling club into football superpower, due to a raft of financial, drafting and coaching concessions he said could be on offer.
He stressed there was a growing number of AFL clubs reluctant to grant a stand-alone 19th franchise for Tasmania, which could torpedo the state’s dreams of having its own side.

North Melbourne has been steadfast in its resolve that it would never consider playing a large number of games in Tasmania and would never relocate.

The Tasmanian Government has also emphatically pinned its financial commitment to only a stand-alone new franchise.
But McGuire claimed his plan wasn’t a relocation, but a reshaping of the Kangaroos’ future with “22 home games” in two states, while still being based at their Arden St headquarters.
“This plan is to fast-track North Melbourne’s recovery and to give its supporters hope,” McGuire told the Herald Sun of his plan.

This is actually about giving them something, not taking things away from them.
“Under this plan, the Kangaroos would end up essentially with 22 home games while still being based in Melbourne and the other clubs would have to suck that up.

“It means North Melbourne’s future would be secure and Tasmania would get a team that could come into the competition in a meaningful, highly competitive way from the outset.”
Under McGuire’s plan, the Kangaroos would receive:
● A GUARANTEED 11 games each season in Melbourne (one fewer than this year) and 11 games in Tasmania
● A $20 MILLION cash injection from the AFL as well as the possibility of financial support from the Tasmanian Government and the option for private investment
● SIGNIFICANT draft concessions for three consecutive drafts as well as academy access in Tasmania
● THE option of an ambassadorial/senior coaching role for four-time premiership coach and former Kangaroos player Alastair Clarkson, which he says would be akin to the recruitment of master coach Ron Barassi in the early 1970s, resulting in the club’s first two flags.
● COMMERCIALLY beneficial fixture arrangements for blockbusters matches in Melbourne and Tasmania as well as premium slots in the next TV rights deal
● FREE access to streaming platforms such as Kayo for its members.
McGuire said the AFL would need to help bankroll an aggressive attempt to land Clarkson, who is desperate to chase a fifth AFL premiership as coach.
He said the league would also need to allow for most of his $1 million-plus salary to be outside the soft cap to bolster the coaching team around him.
“Getting Clarkson would be like Barassi going to Arden Street in the early 1970s and instead of the 10-year rule the Kangaroos used back then, this time the AFL would give them significant draft concessions,” he said.
“I think Clarko would do this in a heartbeat if you gave the club all those draft concessions.”
McGuire also said embattled Kangaroos coach David Noble could potentially stay on at the club in a director of football role.
McGuire said former Carlton president John Elliott had a plan to access the Sydney market in a similar way when he led the Blues at a time when the Swans were under serious threat.
He too had a similar thought for Collingwood on the Gold Coast after North Melbourne knocked back moving to Queensland in 2007.

Eddie McGuire says St Kilda is one of the clubs which should be considered for relocation.

“This is not about relocating the North Melbourne Football Club,” he said. “It is about giving them the best chance for success while still being based in Melbourne.

“It is also about getting more football in Tasmania.

​

“If they do this deal, they would go from a team without much hope to a team that would become one of the exciting teams of the competition.”

McGuire said his plan would also be an option for other clubs including potentially St Kilda and Hawthorn, who have had connections to Tasmania, and could be enacted for the start of the next broadcasting deal.

140 years at Arden Street but we'll throw it all away for a free Kayo subscription.

Thanks Ed, such a generous man.

 

[Engimal v3]

Sounds like Tassie's bid has unfortunately lost some gusto after Gutwein retired

 

[Ry009]

Eddie slowly morphing into Trump.

 

[Liam Boy]

the "North Melbourne's future would be secure" shit is so ****ing insulting. What North Melbourne?

Eddie cannot think outside of his capitalist business brain. Despite his love for Collingwood he can't conceive of football clubs as anything other than profit-making ventures, even though for the overwhelming majority of the history of our game, they were public institutions. Football as a public institution is the reason these clubs still have supporter bases in the corporate age. Hopefully footy will survive past capitalism and the world will outgrow the need for Eddie McGuire.

 

[Spud11]

Fitzroy fans were told they would be guaranteed a certain number of Melbourne games each year and it has been slowly whittled away.

Also I think strategically we should continue to say a flat no. Don't even entertain it.

There is no deal good enough to convince members to move. None.

Can keep saying a flat no, that’s fine. But I wish Roos fans were as passionate about actually attending games as they were about not moving. Because it starts becoming a real issue.

No one cares that we have a bajillion members and no debt when all they see is Hans Moleman and a tumbleweed rocking up to our games.

 

[Liam Boy]

Can keep saying a flat no, that’s fine. But I wish Roos fans were as passionate about actually attending games as they were about not moving. Because it starts becoming a real issue.

No one cares that we have a bajillion members and no debt when all they see is Hans Moleman and a tumbleweed rocking up to our games.

And what are they going to ****ing do? Write another article? Do another pathetic segment on their dying TV networks? We don't have to listen to these people, they have no power. They'll talk and talk and then they'll shut up when our club starts winning again and miraculously hasn't had to merge or relocate because there's absolutely no business case for it and it can't happen without the members.

 

[Spud11]

And what are they going to ******* do? Write another article? Do another pathetic segment on their dying TV networks? We don't have to listen to these people, they have no power. They'll talk and talk and then they'll shut up when our club starts winning again and miraculously hasn't had to merge or relocate because there's absolutely no business case for it and it can't happen without the members.

I love your passion. If only the 40k members rocked up to actual games with the same attitude.

 

[nicko74]

The only bit that made sense

 

[Liam Boy]

I love your passion. If only the 40k members rocked up to actual games with the same attitude.

There are 18 clubs in this league that struggle to pull a crowd when their club's doing poorly onfield.