David Koch - The Chairman of the Board

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We should've buried Geelong after that 3rd quarter, don't hang your hat on that quarter Kochie, all it did is highlight everything that is wrong with this team at the moment. How dumb do you think we are? Why would we buy that absolute crap you are talking about?

That 3rd quarter wasn't something i took away from the game as a positive at all, in actual fact that 3rd quarter was the sole reason i was so angry during the 4th quarter. How can you play like that in the 3rd quarter, win a quarter by 41 points, Geelong were on the ropes and we had all the momentum and then absolutely bottle the last quarter. Really badly bottle the last quarter too, kicking only 1 goal and losing the quarter by 19 points (10 goal swing from the previous quarter). It was an absolute joke and it sickens me to read comments about how good the 3rd quarter was and how good we were to get that close to Geelong, get absolutely fckd. We should've won by 5 goals after that 3rd quarter.

We haven't been able to pull off a comeback all year but previously the case that's been pushed is that we just ran out of time, this time around against Geelong we actually got in front with a quarter to go and still stuffed it up. We are mentally weak and that has been the issue for a very long time.
 
This guy celebrates losing. It is that simple.
He celebrates trying, that's the bit that annoys me so much. As long as the players & coaches are trying really hard Koch is happy. Like it's something to celebrate in a elite, professional sport.

Koch is the cancer of the club, he enables Ken and won't ever make the move against him as it will reflect on his massive ego and his need to be the smartest person at Alberton.

We get rid of Koch we may get our club back, while he's there we're stuck with trying really hard being acceptable and all of that crap.
 
We should've buried Geelong after that 3rd quarter, don't... How can you play like that in the 3rd quarter, win a quarter by 41 points, Geelong were on the ropes and we had all the momentum and then absolutely bottle the last quarter....

Because the whole thing was on the back of their ruck getting injured and us not playing traditional rucks, that were able to completely disrupt their two gamer and midfield unit with the unorthodox approach. Soon as Geelong had time to reset, they did, and we were nullified. If Stanley didn't get injured or they had a more experienced backup, it doesn't happen.
 

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Because the whole thing was on the back of their ruck getting injured and us not playing traditional rucks, that were able to completely disrupt their two gamer and midfield unit with the unorthodox approach. Soon as Geelong had time to reset, they did, and we were nullified. If Stanley didn't get injured or they had a more experienced backup, it doesn't happen.
Yeah but this is not the first time something like this has happened this year.

Even that win against Sydney, we put on 6 goals in the first half of the 3rd quarter to open up a huge lead and then didn't score another goal for the next 1.5 quarters. If Sydney were any good that day we were ripe for the picking to lose another close one.
 
that's it. someone take him out

I got this...

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Our AFL-appointed chair and AFL-controlled board are merely following their master's directives. Constitutionally we aren't members, we're customers. Until that situation changes finishing 8-12 with the promise of a competitive game most weeks is where we'll stay.

It's not even Koch's fault. If it wasn't him it'd be another AFL puppet. We're kidding ourselves if we think we're getting a "Port person".

The only answer is buying our Club back. How could that happen?
 
Our AFL-appointed chair and AFL-controlled board are merely following their master's directives. Constitutionally we aren't members, we're customers. Until that situation changes finishing 8-12 with the promise of a competitive game most weeks is where we'll stay.

It's not even Koch's fault. If it wasn't him it'd be another AFL puppet. We're kidding ourselves if we think we're getting a "Port person".

The only answer is buying our Club back. How could that happen?
Brian Cunningham as Chairman?

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Nothing saves him or Hinkley from being remembered as anything but the campaigners who ruined our club forever. Co-captains to ten years of Hinkley to crying about a sticker.

Their entire era will be looked back at with complete disdain by anyone who isn't a big bash style blow in theatre goer.
 
Our AFL-appointed chair and AFL-controlled board are merely following their master's directives. Constitutionally we aren't members, we're customers. Until that situation changes finishing 8-12 with the promise of a competitive game most weeks is where we'll stay.

It's not even Koch's fault. If it wasn't him it'd be another AFL puppet. We're kidding ourselves if we think we're getting a "Port person".

The only answer is buying our Club back. How could that happen?
This, I never looked at from this perspective before, you are so right.

Constitutionally we aren't members, we're customers.
 
I think there's a very good argument to be made that we've already lost our club and that it's never coming back.

The club is a low performance boys club. Even those who aspire to high performance operate within that bubble. Everything about the way the club is set up from the unelected board to the dependency on AFL money means the club is not accountable to its supporters in any meaningful way. So on and on we go, never really achieving anything, purporting to chase certain goals (greatness?) but in reality all we do is chase our own tails. The people at the club continue to be employed in high salaried positions whilst the supporters are expected to just keep turning up and believing in something that is an obviously lost cause to anyone who is paying attention. Unfortunately though, in this day and age, there are enough theatre goers to sustain the club without them needing to rely on and appease the old school style supporter who expects success.

The Prison Bars issue is to me the best representation of this. Such a simple and easy thing to achieve if the club was run by people who were aggressive, aspirational and looking to do the best by the club rather than themselves. The outcomes they get on that issue really speak volumes about where their priorities lie (ie themselves and their continued gainful employment in the industry).

All of this is also in the context of being the smallest club in the smallest market in an 18 team league that is significantly weighted to advantage 10 clubs from a certain state. The only advantage we ever had as a club was the expectations of our supporters which pushed the club to achieve. This was true in the SANFL but it's absolutely essential in the AFL. Without it, we are a minnow club. A tiny, irrelevant club that exists to put a game on the fixture and that will never, ever win a premiership.

All that we are really left with is yelling at clouds on BigFooty, longing for a club that simply doesn't exist in the way that it used to and times that have come and gone and will never come again.
 
I think there's a very good argument to be made that we've already lost our club and that it's never coming back.

The club is a low performance boys club. Even those who aspire to high performance operate within that bubble. Everything about the way the club is set up from the unelected board to the dependency on AFL money means the club is not accountable to its supporters in any meaningful way. So on and on we go, never really achieving anything, purporting to chasing certain goals (greatness?) but in reality all we do is chase our own tails. The people at the club continue to be employed in high salaried positions whilst the supporters are expected to just keep turning up and believing in something that is an obviously lost cause to anyone who is paying attention. Unfortunately though, in this day and age, there are enough theatre goers to sustain the club without them needing to rely on and appease the old school style supporter who expects success.

All of this is also in the context of being the smallest club in the smallest market in an 18 team league that is significantly weighted to advantage 10 clubs from a certain state. The only advantage we ever had as a club was the expectations of our supporters which pushed the club to achieve. This was true in the SANFL but it's absolutely essential in the AFL. Without it, we are a minnow club. A tiny, irrelevant club that exists to put a game on the fixture and that will never, ever win a premiership.

All that we are really left with is yelling at clouds in BigFooty, longing for a club that simply doesn't exist in the way that it used to and times that have come and gone and will never come again.
We have been turned into Australia Post.
 
Even accepting that the third quarter was the result of the players buying into the program, what does that make the rest of the game? Coac...it's bad coaching, right?
Was more about Stanley going off and geelong unable to correct.

then Scott reset at 3/4 time and we did what we always do and that’s shit the bed.
 
The government clamp down on scammers doesn't appear to have had much effect yet, I have been getting the current `Amazon' scam on both my landline and mob most days for at least 3 weeks now, and sometimes multiple times on the same day.

Like no doubt many I now let numbers I don't recognise ring out or go to message bank which is obviously extremely inconvenient if you are expecting a one off call from eg a tradie, but how scammers not based in this country can continually use what appear to be Telstra phone numbers with the Sydney area code for long periods of time without being shut down doesn't make any sense, as there must be 1,000's reporting them as scams.
Further to this non stop scamming BS, I am still getting the Amazon scam and they are now so brazen they leave actual voice messages, and it appears they have now infiltrated sites like Gumtree.

I advertised a car yesterday and in less than 15 minutes got contacted via email by someone calling themselves `Scott Wilson.'
`Scott' said he is in the Australian army based in Canberra, but he was on a ship in some top secret location, so he could only communicate briefly, and only via email.
The email which contained two long paragraphs was chock a block with poor spelling, words out of context and numerous grammatical errors, literally everything to raise the alarm that it wasn't genuine.

It contained an offer that was more than 1k above my asking price :rolleyes: plus $300 if I would take the add down immediately because he wanted the car for his son's graduation gift, all I had to do was supply my bank details so he could transfer the fund (his terminology) - yeah right!

My response, `thankyou for your generous offer Scott, and how is the weather in Mumbai today?'
Crickets since - maybe `Scott's' ship is now out of range! :think:
 
I think there's a very good argument to be made that we've already lost our club and that it's never coming back.

The club is a low performance boys club. Even those who aspire to high performance operate within that bubble. Everything about the way the club is set up from the unelected board to the dependency on AFL money means the club is not accountable to its supporters in any meaningful way. So on and on we go, never really achieving anything, purporting to chase certain goals (greatness?) but in reality all we do is chase our own tails. The people at the club continue to be employed in high salaried positions whilst the supporters are expected to just keep turning up and believing in something that is an obviously lost cause to anyone who is paying attention. Unfortunately though, in this day and age, there are enough theatre goers to sustain the club without them needing to rely on and appease the old school style supporter who expects success.

The Prison Bars issue is to me the best representation of this. Such a simple and easy thing to achieve if the club was run by people who were aggressive, aspirational and looking to do the best by the club rather than themselves. The outcomes they get on that issue really speak volumes about where their priorities lie (ie themselves and their continued gainful employment in the industry).

All of this is also in the context of being the smallest club in the smallest market in an 18 team league that is significantly weighted to advantage 10 clubs from a certain state. The only advantage we ever had as a club was the expectations of our supporters which pushed the club to achieve. This was true in the SANFL but it's absolutely essential in the AFL. Without it, we are a minnow club. A tiny, irrelevant club that exists to put a game on the fixture and that will never, ever win a premiership.

All that we are really left with is yelling at clouds on BigFooty, longing for a club that simply doesn't exist in the way that it used to and times that have come and gone and will never come again.
This is the best summary of our current situation and future that I have seen. I agree that the club we remember isn't coming back. This is the present and future of the franchise previously known as the Port Adelaide Football Club.
 

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