Club Mgmt. Board of Directors as led by President Dave Barham

[BrunoV]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Just another idiot doubling down on delusion.

 

[Proffessor]

As someone with a fair amount of experience with committees. I'm confused about how Kevin Sheedy would have even had an opportunity to vote for James Hird to be coach as he has stated.

Typically the selection sub-committee would have come back with a selection report and associated recommendation that the board would then consider, e.g. that they appoint Brad Scott, which the board would have discussed then voted on, Y or N. In such a process, if Kevin wanted Hird to get the job he might get the chance to say it but not to actually vote for it, only to vote for or against Scott's appointment.

 

[Old Campaigner]

As someone with a fair amount of experience with committees. I'm confused about how Kevin Sheedy would have even had an opportunity to vote for James Hird to be coach as he has stated.

Typically the selection sub-committee would have come back with a selection report and associated recommendation that the board would then consider, e.g. that they appoint Brad Scott, which the board would have discussed then voted on, Y or N. In such a process, if Kevin wanted Hird to get the job he might get the chance to say it but not to actually vote for it, only to vote for or against Scott's appointment.

I can see it playing out exactly how you've described except for Sheedy wasting an hour of everyone's time insisting that the vote was rigged because Hird wasn't on the ballot

 

[Albertross]

Just echoing a few of the older fans on here in regards to sheedy and his early days. He really did transform us from a nice club to a nasty premiership winning powerhouse. Dad and I worshipped him in the early 80’s. His only focus was us. It then went to his head. First it was edelesten and his massive offer to coach sydney. Then he would threaten to leave every three or four years to richmond , where again he would get massive pay rises to stay.
He lost me around the 95/96 period, I call these the lunatic years. We were no longer his no.1 focus, it was all about him, self promoting, the books, the videos, Kevin time. Cash in time. The 2000 flag was the ideal time to go to richmond but it bought him more time ( thank the bullfrog mcmahon for that)
He went kicking and screaming in 2007, thank god, outstayed his welcome. It’s as if he is now on some stupid revenge mission. Who the * invited him onto the board ? Himself probably. Sinking copious amounts of red at game day functions and waving his bloody scarf clearly not enough to sate his ego. “ I’m Kevin sheedy, multi millionaire blue collar plumber, Essendon power broker” Saw through his schtick years ago.
Untenable. Dick Reynolds , your idol, would never act in this way.
Go away.

I'm an older fan. We weren't a nice club in the 70's, we were an irrelevant club, just as we are now.

Say what you want about Sheeds in the present day, but if it wasn't for him, who else was going to take us from where we were in the 70's, to where we ended up in 2000's?

In reality, we should have won more flags, 96/99/01. They are hard to win though.

Sheeds survived many challenges as coach, thats because he learnt how to play the game. Do you think Barry Davis or Bill Stephen would have achieved the same results if given time? (I cant remember any further back than that).

Sheeds wasn't just a good coach, he learnt to be a manipulator, thats why he lasted through the poor years.

He tried it one last time to get Jimmy back in the box, I dont begrudge him for that. Having said that, it's probably time for him to just move on and enjoy his legacy.

 

[yodellinhank]

Sub committee must have come back with Hird or Scott would be suitable. Hird the most suitable. Board took a vote on Hird which didn't pass, so they moved on to the next agenda item Brad.

Barham lied, as he has done since his appointment, and Sheedy set things straight. We'll be in a better place when the truth comes out.

 

[ghostdog]

* off Sheeds

The selection panel recommended Scott and the rest of the board accepted their recommendations except for Sheedy. Board members have a duty to the club and by rejecting the recommendations of the panel simply because Hird's done a lot of stuff at Essendon in the past is a blatant abdication of that responsibility. His job was to vote on the next coach, not who is the most Essendon person.

On Hird - you go into any job interview process completely unaware of who else is applying and how good they might be. It should have been obvious to all applying that they might not be the successful candidate. It should also be obvious that the panel would recommend a candidate and the board should back that recommendation - assuming they trust the panel which they established in the first place. If Hird has cracked the sads at not being the preferred candidate after 8 years out of the game (and the baggage he brings) then he is unquestionably not suited to the job.

When did Hird sook it up? Reports I read were that he was happy because he had a go and now felt unburdened; that he could now rule a line under it all.

 

[Clark G]

If Sheedy had it his way Bolton and Henneman would be joining as assistant coaches.

 

[VelvetSledge]

Is Red Sash an Essendon supporter or a wolf in sheep’s clothing?!

He's a campaigner

 

[brutus76]

Time to go back to your own planet Kev

 

[Old Campaigner]

When did Hird sook it up? Reports I read were that he was happy because he had a go and now felt unburdened; that he could now rule a line under it all.

I can only assume he was pissed off because Sheedy had to reach out to him and assure him the decision to back Scott was not unanimous.

 

[MiguelM]

Sub committee must have come back with Hird or Scott would be suitable. Hird the most suitable. Board took a vote on Hird which didn't pass, so they moved on to the next agenda item Brad.

Barham lied, as he has done since his appointment, and Sheedy set things straight. We'll be in a better place when the truth comes out.

HaHa, so just like the saga, sit tight and all will be revealed!!

Fantasy land.

 

[Kong]

"This is what happens when you bring new people into the club"

That reads so similar to bigots. Just change “club” to “country”.

Adiós, Kevin. It's 2022 and you're no longer needed.

 

[Kong]

Sheeds kinda has unified the club, because his words have meant I'm 100% backing Scott now, and I bet I'm not the only one.

He’s given the club the Led Tasso treatment.

 

[Squeaky]

As someone with a fair amount of experience with committees. I'm confused about how Kevin Sheedy would have even had an opportunity to vote for James Hird to be coach as he has stated.

Typically the selection sub-committee would have come back with a selection report and associated recommendation that the board would then consider, e.g. that they appoint Brad Scott, which the board would have discussed then voted on, Y or N. In such a process, if Kevin wanted Hird to get the job he might get the chance to say it but not to actually vote for it, only to vote for or against Scott's appointment.

Everyone on the board were asked to vote yay or nay on endorsing the coaching committee's recommendation. The vote was 6 yays; zero nays; and one... Hird.
Bizarre.

 

[Goat Hird]

Love Sheeds but he's one of those legends that hurts his club.

 

[thepokey]

Red sash absolutely melting down on Twitter lol

 

[Happyskeret]

Without being to tinfoil hatty. I believe when Sheeds crossed the floor he knew full well that it was the worst time to look for candidates and that it would be the best chance of getting Hird back in the door. If Brad Scott didn’t throw his hat in the ring he would have been close to realising his wish imo.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Sub committee must have come back with Hird or Scott would be suitable. Hird the most suitable.

Don’t think so, Yze got the second interview, Scott the most impressive by some way by the sounds of it and was clear recommendation. They did Hird a favour by interviewing him. Sheeds was out of line even voting for him.

 

[HirdyLannister]

Sub committee must have come back with Hird or Scott would be suitable. Hird the most suitable. Board took a vote on Hird which didn't pass, so they moved on to the next agenda item Brad.

Barham lied, as he has done since his appointment, and Sheedy set things straight. We'll be in a better place when the truth comes out.

Surely this is a parody comment.

I couldn't think of such delusion

 

[windyhill]

I'm an older fan. We weren't a nice club in the 70's, we were an irrelevant club, just as we are now.

Say what you want about Sheeds in the present day, but if it wasn't for him, who else was going to take us from where we were in the 70's, to where we ended up in 2000's?

In reality, we should have won more flags, 96/99/01. They are hard to win though.

Sheeds survived many challenges as coach, thats because he learnt how to play the game. Do you think Barry Davis or Bill Stephen would have achieved the same results if given time? (I cant remember any further back than that).

Sheeds wasn't just a good coach, he learnt to be a manipulator, thats why he lasted through the poor years.

He tried it one last time to get Jimmy back in the box, I dont begrudge him for that. Having said that, it's probably time for him to just move on and enjoy his legacy.

I think I used the words worship. Early days. Transformed us ,turned us into a powerhouse. Lost focus.

 

[windyhill]

So, what, he sobered up enough from 96 to 2000 to deliver ANOTHER flag while cashing in on his success? The devious bastard!!

That 2000 team was on auto pilot

 

[ant555]

Truck knew as soon as Barham had power that he was a dead man walking.

Your insiders would have told you the same.

So what. You still just sack the guy and not have the circus. It is called good leadership. Blunt and to the point.
There would have been 90% less crap if we just fronted up on Monday morning and sacked him. That is how you operate if you are a strong leader.
It was a circus. It was poor.
He has been okay as he has gone along but that week was average and they had to walk back a few comments. He did not have to say in the media we sacked him as we thought we needed an experienced coach either. All that did was allow conjecture over the selection process the whole way through.
If he just says we did not think the side was playing to a level we want and sack him on the Monday it looks a lot smoother and not like a monkey trying to **** a football.

 

[ant555]

Without being to tinfoil hatty. I believe when Sheeds crossed the floor he knew full well that it was the worst time to look for candidates and that it would be the best chance of getting Hird back in the door. If Brad Scott didn’t throw his hat in the ring he would have been close to realising his wish imo.

I am not so sure. I get the feeling Barahm was anyone but Hird as he really wanted as much experience as possible.
Sheedy thinks he is playing a great political game but he has limit power now and his stunts are just making him look like a stupid old man. It is pretty clear he is / has been the one in Robbo's ear as well.

 

[Happyskeret]

I am not so sure. I get the feeling Barahm was anyone but Hird as he really wanted as much experience as possible.
Sheedy thinks he is playing a great political game but he has limit power now and his stunts are just making him look like a stupid old man. It is pretty clear he is / has been the one in Robbo's ear as well.

No I don’t think Barahm wanted Hird in particular but his group did want Rutten out. It was pretty obvious from the outset Sheeds did not want Clarkson and I think he was another reason why Lyon was staying away from us even though he said he didn’t want to go through a process.

I don’t think the process made Sheeds select Hird I believe he had made up his mind beforehand.

I agree with your earlier point that they should have sacked Rutten straight away though.

 

[DERO]

Just echoing a few of the older fans on here in regards to sheedy and his early days. He really did transform us from a nice club to a nasty premiership winning powerhouse. Dad and I worshipped him in the early 80’s. His only focus was us. It then went to his head. First it was edelesten and his massive offer to coach sydney. Then he would threaten to leave every three or four years to richmond , where again he would get massive pay rises to stay.
He lost me around the 95/96 period, I call these the lunatic years. We were no longer his no.1 focus, it was all about him, self promoting, the books, the videos, Kevin time. Cash in time. The 2000 flag was the ideal time to go to richmond but it bought him more time ( thank the bullfrog mcmahon for that)
He went kicking and screaming in 2007, thank god, outstayed his welcome. It’s as if he is now on some stupid revenge mission. Who the * invited him onto the board ? Himself probably. Sinking copious amounts of red at game day functions and waving his bloody scarf clearly not enough to sate his ego. “ I’m Kevin sheedy, multi millionaire blue collar plumber, Essendon power broker” Saw through his schtick years ago.
Untenable. Dick Reynolds , your idol, would never act in this way.
Go away.

I was a child of the 80’s and grew up with Sheeds and my views are very similar. I reckon I’ll find it easier to forgive him then to stay angry but 100% agree that we need to push him out.

 

[mike14]

I was a child of the 80’s and grew up with Sheeds and my views are very similar. I reckon I’ll find it easier to forgive him then to stay angry but 100% agree that we need to push him out.

I'm in a similar boat. Sheedy was Essendon to me growing up, and I'll always have a fondness for that time and everything he did for the club. But his actions yesterday were really disappointing, and he really shouldn't be able to stay on the board if that's how he's going to behave. Especially considering that as a board member he should understand the importance of presenting a united front

There's no 'i' in team, but there really is in 'Kevin'...