Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVI

[MiguelM]

Maybe they got the wrong review and someone spelt Rutten with an A?

 

[fairbump_playon]

Nah he won't apply, it's not Essendon

Hird will train them so hard the white falls off their jerseys

There’s no therapy like directing all those frustrations into your rebound fling

 

[citizen-erased]

that's.....puzzling.

How many teams want this Reid kid.

 

[Lore]

Trade post-mortem: AFL to consider tweaks for the ‘salary dump’

The AFL will review the trade period to consider refining the rules around salary dumping and consider whether to extend the length of elite players’ first contracts from two years to three.

www.theage.com.au

There you go TheGrizz, must’ve read your post

Where you draw the line on what a salary dump is, and what is a regular trade, would be debatable, as often a traded player can take revised lower terms at a new club, or have a large portion of his contract paid by his club to play elsewhere.

Potentially, a demarcation line would be based on whether the recipient club gives up a worse pick than the one they are receiving for taking on a big contract.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Hird?

Would be following in his grandfather's footsteps...

 

[Eleven 38]

Has to be more to the story than just s**t results, the timing makes no sense

Well they sacked Scott Watters on the 1st of November, according to wiki

I'm pretty sure Ross Lyon is the only person to coach St.kikda more than 5 years...

 

[naraku]

Timmy Watson leaving Ch7 sports desk to take over Saints!


But seriously, could see them with Bucks.

 

[Vander18]

My guess is that, perhaps unusually for them, they are working to a plan.

Walsh knows what he is doing and is ruthless. It’s an unpleasant thing but these are the sorts of decisions that sometimes have to be made. Clearly the review was quite scathing of Ratten.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Well they sacked Scott Watters on the 1st of November, according to wiki

I'm pretty sure Ross Lyon is the only person to coach St.kikda more than 5 years...

Richardson coached for 6 seasons and is, incredibly, their longest serving coach after Jeans.

Truly the madhouse of the AFL. We've got nothing on them.

 

[MiguelM]

 

[BrunoV]

My guess is that, perhaps unusually for them, they are working to a plan.

Walsh knows what he is doing and is ruthless. It’s an unpleasant thing but these are the sorts of decisions that sometimes have to be made. Clearly the review was quite scathing of Ratten.

It's just another example of how boards confuse inertia with stability: "if we hold on to our coach we'll be Geelong!" As though there is nothing else.

St Kilda is a mature team and has weapons but barely gave a yelp when it came to making finals. 2 failures in a row.

What conceivable reason was there to re-appoint Ratten when they did?

The review didn't really need to be more than looking at the age of the team and the results of the last 2 years.

 

[faible]

The review didn't really need to be more than looking at the age of the team and the results of the last 2 years.

Except you know, Richmond did the opposite of this when they reviewed their program.

 

[MiguelM]

Watch Ross the Boss suck up all the media attention again without committing!

 

[Nifft]

Watch Ross the Boss suck up all the media attention again without committing!

I'd love it if they reached out to him about the job, and then told him he'd have to go through a process.

 

[crackers65]

God bless the saints. They always find a way to muck it up.

 

[Runk]

GET YOUR OWN SHAMBLES ST KILDA!! WE DID IT FIRST YOU COPYCATS!!!!!

 

[BrunoV]

Except you know, Richmond did the opposite of this when they reviewed their program.

Something like 43 wins in the 3 years priors helps with that.

 

[Zach Package]

Except you know, Richmond did the opposite of this when they reviewed their program.

You can’t really use Richmond as a model though, yes they kept Hardwick and a core of players post that review but Hardwick then had to toss essentially everything about himself, completely break his existing game plan and it somehow miraculously worked.

You don’t plan for that.

 

[faible]

You can’t really use Richmond as a model though, yes they kept Hardwick and a core of players post that review but Hardwick then had to toss essentially everything about himself, completely break his existing game plan and it somehow miraculously worked.

You don’t plan for that.

It identified that the head coach could / would change with different support around them.

The whole point of a detailed review is to be better than a superficial review that turfs the head coach but changes nothing else if other areas are failing.

 

[Zach Package]

It identified that the head coach could / would change with different support around them.

The whole point of a detailed review is to be better than a superficial review that turfs the head coach but changes nothing else if other areas are failing.

That review can’t have possibly identified ‘yes this is the right man but all of his values, tactics, philosophies and beliefs are completely wrong and need to be put in the bin’

Clubs looking to emulate this are chasing a ghost that was kissed on the proverbial.

 

[BomberFan355]

Personally I’d like to see Hird coach them.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Regardless of whether he got a job, I'd love to see Hird throw his hat in the ring for coaching positions outside of Essendon (assistant or senior).

 

[boncer34]

GET YOUR OWN SHAMBLES ST KILDA!! WE DID IT FIRST YOU COPYCATS!!!!!

Why are you shouting?

 

[Runk]

Why are you shouting?

To all the Saints people over at their board?

 

[Dave]

Richardson coached for 6 seasons and is, incredibly, their longest serving coach after Jeans.

Truly the madhouse of the AFL. We've got nothing on them.

That’s truly diabolical.