Prediction 2023 - Best 23

[Bianconeri]

Can’t understand the hyperbole around Frampton. You’d think we recruited McGovern when he’s far closer to Corey Gault. In fact he’s arguably achieved less.
Perhaps after learning structure in the McGoos he gets a look.
But he’d be a serious bonus if he came on.

This is the hyperbole I don’t get.

Also, surely the 23rd man has to be selected for versatility or at least the ability to create versatility. Don’t see any point selecting a Hill, Noble or Cox in that slot.
You need to look at poly filler type players; perhaps Carmichael, Ruscoe or Bianco that you can throw into different roles, much as we used to with Goldsack and Lockyer.

I’d have all of Hill, Noble and Cox selected before the 23rd man but we have plenty versatility in the side I don’t see the need for a specific swingman regardless. We’re better off just picking the best player available.

I also don’t see how Rucsoe’s more versatile than Noble or Bianco more than Hill.

 

[noideaatall]

I don't see why Cox or Cameron can't play more game time. Just because we didn't last year doesn't mean we can't this year. I expect we will with McStay supporting.

Swap out a ruck forward for a forward ruck. What we gain forward we lose in the ruck. If that is the plan we would have kept Grundy.

 

[ramalamabama]

Can’t understand the hyperbole around Frampton. You’d think we recruited McGovern when he’s far closer to Corey Gault. In fact he’s arguably achieved less.

He's got a rock star name with a body to match, he looks like Tarzan and moves like Jane, his coming was foretold in ancient scripture, his birthname in ancient Norse translates to 'the rock you shall not pass'. Cave paintings dating from the Neolithic period show him seated on a throne of cups.

 

[The Phantom]

Thread derailment in process.

I wish we’d recruited Ironman instead of Thor.
Way cooler.
Better toys.

 

[RobJD]

2 games back in 2017. He did well as you say. Still can he at age 32 be a solo ruck with a non ruckman in support for a full season.

Thing about the Cox/Cameron combo is unlike most rucks they remain a forward threat when not rucking. If they can contribute 1-1.5 gaols per game over the season, McStay do the same and Mihochek go for 1.5-2 goals a game suddenly we have a much more potent big man contribution forward than we have been used to and a strong ruck division.

Cox and Cameron are much more impactful forwards than most rucks, thats our advantage.

Another key impact is their marking around the ground - D50 contested marks late in games is essential to controlling game tempo when it matters most.

 

[No SPIN]

Talls take time, and maturity is another issue in players achieving their potential. Further, the quality of development programs has a huge impact in bringing out the best in young players.

People ignoring these issues to bag Frampton is difficult to understand.

 

[Juan Ide]

Swap out a ruck forward for a forward ruck. What we gain forward we lose in the ruck. If that is the plan we would have kept Grundy.

Our willingness to lose Grundy was surely more an issue of salary cap management than of preferring a particular ruck role combination, which somewhat neuters your argument, doesn't it?

 

[Quicky]

Can’t understand the hyperbole around Frampton. You’d think we recruited McGovern when he’s far closer to Corey Gault. In fact he’s arguably achieved less.
Perhaps after learning structure in the McGoos he gets a look.
But he’d be a serious bonus if he came on.

Also, surely the 23rd man has to be selected for versatility or at least the ability to create versatility. Don’t see any point selecting a Hill, Noble or Cox in that slot.
You need to look at poly filler type players; perhaps Carmichael, Ruscoe or Bianco that you can throw into different roles, much as we used to with Goldsack and Lockyer.

Joking?

 

[Shofeld148]

B: Maynard ,Moore , Murphy
HB: Quaynor , Howe , Crisp
C: JDaicos , Pendlebury , NDaicos
Foll: Cameron , De Goey, Mitchell
HF: Hoskin-Elliott, McStay , McCreery
FF: Elliott , Mihocek , Ginnivan
INT: Frampton , Sidebottom , Johnson , Lipinski
Sub: Carmichael

 

[The Phantom]

Joking?

Gault has had a fair WAFL career.
Frampton has displayed few games at afl level, just as Gault did. None of them notable for either.

 

[Quicky]

Gault has had a fair WAFL career.
Frampton has displayed few games at afl level, just as Gault did. None of them notable for either.

Frampton has already bettered Gaults AFL career and his SANFL form equals Gaults WAFL form. That comment is a stretch imo.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Charlie Dean will be a revelation this year.
I'm feeling it.

 

[Matrix10]

Charlie Dean will be a revelation this year.
I'm feeling it.

Dean will get a gig before Frampton, Dean is a lockdown first full back , then go and be creative , we already have the attacking defenders covered , Moore. Howe ,Quaynor Whisper, Noble , Matrix when he is not in the middle. Dean is da man to do the shutdown role .

 

[The Phantom]

Frampton has already bettered Gaults AFL career and his SANFL form equals Gaults WAFL form. That comment is a stretch imo.

You may be right that Gault may not be the perfect comparison to illustrate this.
But without splitting hairs, Frampton is being rated very highly for a player with very few runs on the board.

 

[ramalamabama]

Ready to soar.

 

[The Phantom]

Let’s all hope Super Frampton is that good.

 

[nahnah]

B: Maynard ,Moore , Murphy
HB: Quaynor , Howe , Crisp
C: JDaicos , Pendlebury , NDaicos
Foll: Cameron , De Goey, Mitchell
HF: Hoskin-Elliott, McStay , McCreery
FF: Elliott , Mihocek , Ginnivan
INT: Frampton , Sidebottom , Johnson , Lipinski
Sub: Carmichael

I like this, would probably switch one of WHE or Johnson for Bobby tho

 

[Doc1763]

Assuming everyone is fit;

B: Maynard, Dean, Murphy
HB: Quaynor, Moore, Howe
C: J.Daicos, Crisp, N.Daicos
HF: Adams, McStay, McCreery
FF: Elliott, Mihocek, Ginnivan
Foll: Cox, De Goey, Mitchell
INT: Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Hoskin-Elliott, Lipinski
Sub: Carmichael
Emerg: Cameron, Hill, Macrae, Johnson

I'd be happy to swap Hoskin-Elliott for Hill or Johnson, but I think Will deserves first crack.

 

[whiskeytown]

Some have him at full back in their best 2023 team… but I think Moore returns to his half back intercept and rebound role.

Having him at full back playing so defensive is like using the Ferrari for grocery shopping

Frampton more chance of playing full back regularly than Dean for mine

Frampton is taller, heavier, athletic and mature age… he is as close as a like for like replacement for Roughead… that’s why they recruited him and we were linked to him early in trade period

Dean is still only 21… how many 21 year olds line up at full back in the AFL? It’s a position for mature players…

And Dean hasn’t played a lot of footy in the the last 12 months after repeated injuries

When Dean comes in to the lineup it is likely due to injury and likely in a Murphy type role to begin with

 

[Jen2310]

Sone have him at full back in their best 2023 team… but I think Moore returns to his half back intercept and rebound role.

Having him at full back playing so defensive is like using the Ferrari for grocery shopping

Frampton more chance of playing full back regularly than Dean for mine

Frampton is taller, heavier, athletic and mature age… he is as close as a like for like replacement for Roughead… that’s why they recruited him and we were linked to him early in trade period

Dean is still only 21… how many 21 year olds line up at full back in the AFL? It’s a position for mature players…

And Dean hasn’t played a lot of footy in the the last 12 months after repeated injuries

When Dean comes in to the lineup it is likely due to injury band likely in a Murphy type role to begin with

I agree re:Moore. Now we have both Frampton and Dean (fit) we shouldn't need to see Howe or Moore at FB. That was only out of necessity after roughy went down/retired.

 

[ramalamabama]

Sone have him at full back in their best 2023 team… but I think Moore returns to his half back intercept and rebound role.

Having him at full back playing so defensive is like using the Ferrari for grocery shopping

Frampton more chance of playing full back regularly than Dean for mine

Frampton is taller, heavier, athletic and mature age… he is as close as a like for like replacement for Roughead… that’s why they recruited him and we were linked to him early in trade period

Dean is still only 21… how many 21 year olds line up at full back in the AFL? It’s a position for mature players…

And Dean hasn’t played a lot of footy in the the last 12 months after repeated injuries

When Dean comes in to the lineup it is likely due to injury band likely in a Murphy type role to begin with

Yep, Frampton/Roughead

Dean/Howe

 

[Finnishpie]

B: Quaynor Murphy Howe
HB: Pendlebury Moore Maynard
C: J.Daicos Mitchell N.Daicos
HF: Sidebottom Mihocek Hill
F: Elliott McStay Ginnivan
FOLL: Cox Crisp De Goey
INTER: Adams Bianco Hoskin-Elliott Lipinski Noble

No Cameron for me. He'll get schooled a few times early in the year and then be dropped.

 

[Jen2310]

B: Quaynor Murphy Howe
HB: Pendlebury Moore Maynard
C: J.Daicos Mitchell N.Daicos
HF: Sidebottom Mihocek Hill
F: Elliott McStay Ginnivan
FOLL: Cox Crisp De Goey
INTER: Adams Bianco Hoskin-Elliott Lipinski Noble

No Cameron for me. He'll get schooled a few times early in the year and then be dropped.

Wouldn’t be surprised if we go with the same ruck set up as 2022
Also.. no mccreery?


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[Wearmouth]

Gault has had a fair WAFL career.
Frampton has displayed few games at afl level, just as Gault did. None of them notable for either.

Beg to differ. Frampton’s round 5 and 6 games against the Tuggers and Fleabags in 2022 were very notable and would have him in their best players in those wins. Or part of the reasons why they won. And both those teams have formidable forward lines.

Frampton barring injury in the preseason is a lock. And will be a revelation of the year. Just like Roughead was.


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[TakingThePies]

Dean will get a gig before Frampton, Dean is a lockdown first full back , then go and be creative , we already have the attacking defenders covered , Moore. Howe ,Quaynor Whisper, Noble , Matrix when he is not in the middle. Dean is da man to do the shutdown role .

lol. I can guarantee you Frampton plays Round 1 and Dean doesn't. Dean is an intercepting defender, he doesn't lock down.