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[Sea fog]

Cleary said on the radio that they will vote for the captain at the camp but reckons will be announced within a few weeks. Moore said Pendles asked to be his room-mate. Looks like Howe is still on light duties.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I can't remember any Loren.

However, I do remember him doing some mid-season training with Remy.

Hope that helps.

It was Dolores.

 

[Jen2310]

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[KinderSmock]

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1. Freddie appears to be having fun. Hopefully, he can get better and be on the track soon

2. Darcy likely gets selected as captain given Pendles wanted to room share with him.

 

[joff]

Hi jen I saw a video that you put up of IQ,s younger brother will we have prior access to him like IQ and is he showing much thanks in advance

 

[Jen2310]

Hi jen I saw a video that you put up of IQ,s younger brother will we have prior access to him like IQ and is he showing much thanks in advance

He is overage. Went undrafted for the last few years. Used to play for another VFL club.


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Great shots mate.

Hey how do you find out the training schedule? I know they’re in Lorne at the moment but wouldn’t mind taking the kids down for a look at Olympic park oval at some stage

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Cleary said on the radio that they will vote for the captain at the camp but reckons will be announced within a few weeks. Moore said Pendles asked to be his room-mate. Looks like Howe is still on light duties.

What's with the sadface.

 

[cityslick1]

Who is more likely to play early/this year out of Ed Allan & Jakob Ryan?

Ryan imo. More physically ready - already one of the best runners at the club - and a back flanker spot should have less players in front of him, vs Allen, who will be gieven time to develop his midfield / wing traits

 

[cityslick1]

None of which can play the role he plays half forward and through the wing. He is super smart.

We're going for a flag, not just investing in the future champ.

If he was super smart, he’d be getting closer to 20 touches per game. He’s just more experienced, is safe with ball in hand, and isn’t slow, but also doesn’t exploit it. He bobbed up occasionally due to being lightly marked, but lacked confidence and was a leak link in our side last year… and multiple others will have gone past him by midway through this season, if not sooner. So that makes them more able to help us win a flag… this year

 

[TakingThePies]

If he was super smart, he’d be getting closer to 20 touches per game. He’s just more experienced, is safe with ball in hand, and isn’t slow, but also doesn’t exploit it. He bobbed up occasionally due to being lightly marked, but lacked confidence and was a leak link in our side last year… and multiple others will have gone past him by midway through this season, if not sooner. So that makes them more able to help us win a flag… this year

Incorrect.

His linking ability is great, he plays his role and none of which can play that role. No clue.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Incorrect.

His linking ability is great, he plays his role and none of which can play that role. No clue.

WHE is a ripper. Plays his guts out.
I can't see him getting dropped any time soon. Runs his opponents around and plays his role given by Fly.

 

[TakingThePies]

WHE is a ripper. Plays his guts out.
I can't see him getting dropped any time soon. Runs his opponents around and plays his role given by Fly.

Exactly, just too blokes that haven't played a single game or coached a game in their lives on here.

 

[Bramax]

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How is Tom Mitchell looking at training Jen?

 

[Albert Parker]

How is Tom Mitchell looking at training Jen?

Tom Mitchell is working really hard. He runs to good positions and often ends up on the end of the ball or at the end of chains of play, having perhaps started them initially. He also works pretty well to his shortfalls. He's not a 50m kick.

He's also playing a concerted leadership role around the club with the younger players.

I think this season he'll have a new lease of life relative to his season at Hawthorn last year.

Will be a great addition for us.

 

[Bianconeri]

Incorrect.

His linking ability is great, he plays his role and none of which can play that role. No clue.

If his forward wing role was so irreplaceable he wouldn’t be training in defence this pre season.

 

[Pistol Night]

I can't remember any Loren.

However, I do remember him doing some mid-season training with Remy.

Hope that helps.

Crikey he must be a real Fabio between the sheets to be able to class it as training

 

[sideswipe]

If his forward wing role was so irreplaceable he wouldn’t be training in defence this pre season.

The hyphen-baggers never fail to amuse.

He’s played 129 games for us over six seasons. Never been dropped - now under 2 coaches. Played 24 out of 25 last year and at 29 just signed a two year deal. That doesn’t sound like a bloke who has ever been outside our “best 22” and that doesn’t look like changing just yet.

So the choices are that the footy departments have been incompetent in their on-going selection of Will or that the Hyphen-knockers have let their opinions get the better of objective data.


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[Scodog10]

What's with the sadface.

You would hope it’s in reference to Howe, but….

 

[Albert Parker]

The hyphen-baggers never fail to amuse.

He’s played 129 games for us over six seasons. Never been dropped - now under 2 coaches. Played 24 out of 25 last year and at 29 just signed a two year deal. That doesn’t sound like a bloke who has ever been outside our “best 22” and that doesn’t look like changing just yet.

So the choices are that the footy departments have been incompetent in their on-going selection of Will or that the Hyphen-knockers have let their opinions get the better of objective data.


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Objectively, across that period he's never placed in the top 10 in the Copeland Trophy, despite playing a lot of games and that trophy's results strong bias towards games played, versus standout performances. By contrast, other less heralded players like Josh Thomas, Tom Phillips, Chris Mayne and John Noble have all managed to do so.

WHE's been durable and he's also been consistently selected, which is a credit to him. I think he also had his best season since 2018 in 2022.

But if you believe that our depth has been significantly improved this season and you take note of his shift to half back in the pre-season training, then you could conclude that he is more at risk of not featuring as regularly in our best 22 this season. McStay and Hill have come in to our forward mix and Mitchell is an almost certainty in our midfield. Then there is improvement in younger players to consider - McInnes, Draper, Allen, Carmichael.

Like the top 8 on the AFL ladder, you'd expect to have change each season. It's inevitable. I can see why WHE is nominated by many as part of the Pies inevitable change in their Best 22 in 2023.

 

[Ted Parker]

Is it just me or is anyone else looking forward to watching the VFL this year?

Top 4 / VFL flagpies (AFL listed Tom Wilson wasn't on the list)

 

[RobJD]

The hyphen-baggers never fail to amuse.

He’s played 129 games for us over six seasons. Never been dropped - now under 2 coaches. Played 24 out of 25 last year and at 29 just signed a two year deal. That doesn’t sound like a bloke who has ever been outside our “best 22” and that doesn’t look like changing just yet.

So the choices are that the footy departments have been incompetent in their on-going selection of Will or that the Hyphen-knockers have let their opinions get the better of objective data.


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Agree completely with what you're saying - I admit that I don't understand the value that WHE provides, but accept that he adds something to the team structure that the coaches highly value, maybe I need to watch a game and simply focus on what he does.

 

[sideswipe]

Objectively, across that period he's never placed in the top 10 in the Copeland Trophy, despite playing a lot of games and that trophy's results strong bias towards games played, versus standout performances. By contrast, other less heralded players like Josh Thomas, Tom Phillips, Chris Mayne and John Noble have all managed to do so.

WHE's been durable and he's also been consistently selected, which is a credit to him. I think he also had his best season since 2018 in 2022.

But if you believe that our depth has been significantly improved this season and you take note of his shift to half back in the pre-season training, then you could conclude that he is more at risk of not featuring as regularly in our best 22 this season. McStay and Hill have come in to our forward mix and Mitchell is an almost certainty in our midfield. Then there is improvement in younger players to consider - McInnes, Draper, Allen, Carmichael.

Like the top 8 on the AFL ladder, you'd expect to have change each season. It's inevitable. I can see why WHE is nominated by many as part of the Pies inevitable change in their Best 22 in 2023.

Quite possibly- his time, like everyone’s, will eventually come. And the busted clocks who have been calling for his head for seasons will finally be right.

But signing a 29yo for two years tells me the coaches expect a bit more from him.

Reckon he’ll make it to 200.


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[Abdul_The_Bull]

Agree completely with what you're saying - I admit that I don't understand the value that WHE provides, but accept that he adds something to the team structure that the coaches highly value, maybe I need to watch a game and simply focus on what he does.

Much of what WHE does (and offers) will likely not show up on broadcast vision. You really need to attend games to watch what he does off the ball.

 

[Bianconeri]

The hyphen-baggers never fail to amuse.

He’s played 129 games for us over six seasons. Never been dropped - now under 2 coaches. Played 24 out of 25 last year and at 29 just signed a two year deal. That doesn’t sound like a bloke who has ever been outside our “best 22” and that doesn’t look like changing just yet.

So the choices are that the footy departments have been incompetent in their on-going selection of Will or that the Hyphen-knockers have let their opinions get the better of objective data.


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I’m not a WHE hater just pointing out the facts.