Player Watch Nick Daicos

[Anzacday]

Nick is looking at him like, let me know when you’ve calmed down and we can discuss your concerns

 

[Chrispiesssss]

‘It’s gone too far’: How fiery Daicos plans ‘blew up’ on Swans as flag slider ‘lost balance’

‘It’s gone too far’: How fiery Daicos plans ‘blew up’ on Swans as flag slider ‘lost balance’

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[loki04]

He was plenty influential in the last quarter when moved into the midfield

Having an influence with handballs vs being damaging by foot moving the ball inside 50 or having scoring shots is different.

He's going excellent for a 20 yo 30 game player it was not a dig at him but they did blunten his overall effectiveness across the whole game.

 

[beez]

Great analysis on First Crack about the futility of tagging Nick and how the team benefits from his football IQ at stoppages.

The problem with this kind of analysis is a lot of it is predicated on the result.

You could find the same number of examples where the tactic failed and Clarke or another Sydney player was able to take advantage of how the situation unfolded. If Sydney had have won, David King et al. would have been lauding the tagging tactic saying John Longmire is a great coach and why Sydney are a great team.

There are numerous examples over the last 30 years where a hard tag has been super effective. I don't think the argument is whether a hard tag is the right way to go, the argument is how does the opposition plan for the midfield battle. Clarke is a super-effective run-with (or hard tag) player and the way Sydney approached Daicos I'd argue was the correct approach (including roughing him up early).

Collingwood won because we are the better team. And we were the better team on the day. Sydney didn't lose because of the Clarke/Daicos match up.

 

[jimmy35]

What I absolutely loved was his teammates came from everywhere to support their young mate, nothing stupid but there was no doubt about their intent to let the Swans players know he was one of them. Later in the game after Nick and others went to the fumbling Swan to let him know about it and he’d cost them a goal there was a token show from one teammate.

Side by side.

 

[jonbe54]

The problem with this kind of analysis is a lot of it is predicated on the result.

You could find the same number of examples where the tactic failed and Clarke or another Sydney player was able to take advantage of how the situation unfolded. If Sydney had have won, David King et al. would have been lauding the tagging tactic saying John Longmire is a great coach and why Sydney are a great team.

There are numerous examples over the last 30 years where a hard tag has been super effective. I don't think the argument is whether a hard tag is the right way to go, the argument is how does the opposition plan for the midfield battle. Clarke is a super-effective run-with (or hard tag) player and the way Sydney approached Daicos I'd argue was the correct approach (including roughing him up early).

Collingwood won because we are the better team. And we were the better team on the day. Sydney didn't lose because of the Clarke/Daicos match up.

I think you miss the point a bit beez - Clarke is very good at what he does but sending him to Nick all match whilst Nick still gets 25 and has a strong influence on the result in the last quarter whilst Clarke does virtually nothing is losing football every day of the week.

 

[#23 Hill]

Are we starting Nick at half back to keep him near Maynard?

 

[Pistol Night]

I think you miss the point a bit beez - Clarke is very good at what he does but sending him to Nick all match whilst Nick still gets 25 and has a strong influence on the result in the last quarter whilst Clarke does virtually nothing is losing football every day of the week.

A good effort is keeping Nick to 25. And we had a low disposal count yesterday also. Oppo clubs might as well give up trying

 

[sr36]

The problem with this kind of analysis is a lot of it is predicated on the result.

You could find the same number of examples where the tactic failed and Clarke or another Sydney player was able to take advantage of how the situation unfolded. If Sydney had have won, David King et al. would have been lauding the tagging tactic saying John Longmire is a great coach and why Sydney are a great team.

There are numerous examples over the last 30 years where a hard tag has been super effective. I don't think the argument is whether a hard tag is the right way to go, the argument is how does the opposition plan for the midfield battle. Clarke is a super-effective run-with (or hard tag) player and the way Sydney approached Daicos I'd argue was the correct approach (including roughing him up early).

Collingwood won because we are the better team. And we were the better team on the day. Sydney didn't lose because of the Clarke/Daicos match up.

The issue is that if you do want the hard tag to include stoppage, you are open to having the opposition manipulating positions at stoppage. There is no two ways around it. It's why tagging has become increasingly rare. Bucks stopped using Greenwood that way, because WCE used it to get a bloke free and kill us at stoppage.

 

[Pistol Night]

The issue is that if you do want the hard tag to include stoppage, you are open to having the opposition manipulating positions at stoppage. There is no two ways around it. It's why tagging has become increasingly rare. Bucks stopped using Greenwood that way, because WCE used it to get a bloke free and kill us at stoppage.

Fly has been 2 steps ahead of all this all along. Begging clubs in his pressers to tag him. Genius

 

[sr36]

Fly has been 2 steps ahead of all this all along. Begging clubs in his pressers to tag him. Genius

It's why they've moved him to stoppage when getting tagged. He either loses the tag at stoppage or they concede us someone in space.

 

[Pistol Night]

It's why they've moved him to stoppage when getting tagged. He either loses the tag at stoppage or they concede us someone in space.

And left Pendles of all people unmanned at a stoppage

 

[jonbe54]

A good effort is keeping Nick to 25. And we had a low disposal count yesterday also. Oppo clubs might as well give up trying

Fly has already said straight out that they have a bag full of tricks to keep Nick relatively clear of even the best taggers.

 

[sr36]

And left Pendles of all people unmanned at a stoppage

That's the thing - we get to choose - Nick just has to run across and block the bloke matched up on Pendles - the tagger has to switch to Pendles or leave him free, but that's often going to be a bit late and Nick has also gotten some space on the tagger.

 

[legendstatus]

Cant help but think this will make Nick an even better player, on another note he has avg around 25-27 touches in the last 2 weeks and club/Media think they have him covered, second year kid .........................WOW

 

[beez]

I think you miss the point a bit beez - Clarke is very good at what he does but sending him to Nick all match whilst Nick still gets 25 and has a strong influence on the result in the last quarter whilst Clarke does virtually nothing is losing football every day of the week.

Not really. There are myriad examples of where a champion player wins the tagging contest and his team loses. But I agree, Clarke is very good at what he does and he lowered his colours yesterday. Daicos had a very good game. Collingwood won the midfield match up and the game.

The issue is that if you do want the hard tag to include stoppage, you are open to having the opposition manipulating positions at stoppage. There is no two ways around it. It's why tagging has become increasingly rare. Bucks stopped using Greenwood that way, because WCE used it to get a bloke free and kill us at stoppage.

Agree. Correct.

It's a good argument to have. I'm sure the Sydney match committee ummd and ahhd about it. I'm not inherently agreeing or disagreeing with the decision to go a hard-tag on a player.

The examples that King used to demonstrate how a player manipulates stoppages was insightful. It was good footage. I enjoy seeing that. I think it educates us as a fan. It shows that Nick is both a natural footballer and is a well-coached footballer. In his examples though, they weren't all necessarily the fault of Clarke, or Sydney (or the good play of Collingwood), they were circumstances that arose due to the nature of the game. He was implicitly arguing that Clarke should not go for the ball or tackle a player other than Daicos.

King conflates result with action all too often. If he showed that kind of footage without arguing whether it is positive or negative, he would be a much better analyst.

 

[sr36]

It's a good argument to have. I'm sure the Sydney match committee ummd and ahhd about it. I'm not inherently agreeing or disagreeing with the decision to go a hard-tag on a player.

The examples that King used to demonstrate how a player manipulates stoppages was insightful. It was good footage. I enjoy seeing that. I think it educates us as a fan. It shows that Nick is both a natural footballer and is a well-coached footballer. In his examples though, they weren't all necessarily the fault of Clarke, or Sydney (or the good play of Collingwood), they were circumstances that arose due to the nature of the game. He was implicitly arguing that Clarke should not go for the ball or tackle a player other than Daicos.

King conflates result with action all too often. If he showed that kind of footage without arguing whether it is positive or negative, he would be a much better analyst.

Yep. It's cherry picked footage attempting to argue the point. But those contests didn't decide the result and I guarantee if Sydney won, the tagging would have hailed as a match winning move across the media.

And frankly, I didn't see the footage as over-tagging the way he was suggesting, I thought it was clear that Sydney were onto the tactic and were trying not to have the tagger get sucked to a 2 on 1, but the tagger is still learning the craft and was indecisive - stuck in no man's land a few times.

 

[legendstatus]

These are the culprits we should send to either the AFL or police for the assault investigation

 

[Fat Jesus]

These are the culprits we should send to either the AFL or police for the assault investigation

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Weak Prix posing as tough guys.

 

[legendstatus]

And this one



And him

 

[Pistol Night]

And this one

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And him

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Nick - I told you dickheads, no autographs until after the game

 

[Axl the great]

Do GWS tag heavily?
My Sportsbet cash out on ND brownlow is dropping and I'm concerned.

 

[Pistol Night]

Do GWS tag heavily?
My Sportsbet cash out on ND brownlow is dropping and I'm concerned.

DeBoer gone isnt he?

 

[Fat Jesus]

Nick - I told you dickheads, no autographs until after the game

They are so scared of Nick that it is becoming hilarious.
A very stupid Swans Coach made the call for these tactics.
Fly would never command his players for this sort of crap.
Embarrassing

 

[Pistol Night]

They are so scared of Nick that it is becoming hilarious.
A very stupid Swans Coach made the call for these tactics.
Fly would never command his players for this sort of crap.
Embarrassing

The attempt at intimidation was cringeworthy. Then Bruzzy showed the wimps how its done