Correct. For reference below, once the HFC had the report outlining serious allegations they were duty bound by the AFL’s protocol to hand over the report to the AFL integrity unit.
Since when has justice been responsive to what Damo thinks. Just BS what Damo thinks. Just BS.
Absolute ZERO !!!
Something that has never really been discussed is that maybe the HFC should’ve actually been commended for how they handled a sh*tty situation. The club has been taking pot shots from all corners since grand final week last year.
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Well we publicly said we would support them and then reneged and made them fight for the support. Not sure we have any leg to stand on here.
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Not sure that is true. Let’s move on and do what is right for now. Provide the welfare that is needed and should be granted without fear or favour.
Which part? The lawyer for some of the players has raised it a couple of times that we disputed the need to pay for costs of counselling etc. He claimed that we referred the player to the public health system rather than paying for his counselling to cope with the trauma he had to revisit. Im not ok with the way that aspect was handled.
That's fine for you to be dissappointed by that, and I agree that it'd be a decent gesture from the club to help out. But I'm not sure they're actually obligated to, certainly not to the extent that punishment of any form would be befitting.
I agree that it looks poor that who fronts the bill for counselling costs looks bad but there’s obviously a lot going on in the background that we all don’t know about. What’s to say that the club were advised not to pay for it by its lawyers because doing so would likely result in admitting to fault.
seriously had to watch this for quite a while before my brain realised it wasn't a real person that was being swung around. And not even by a baby
I reckon he’d break his pencil sized femur doing thatCrossing live to Damian Barrett…
The club stated that players would continue to receive support snd their welfare was the clubs priority. If you are going to ask people to relive trauma then you need to accept you are responsible and support people. We recognised this and promised to do it be then disputed the detail.
I understand what you are saying but as at september 2022 we were already providing some support and publicly stated continuing to support the players was our priority. Also consider, the reason for players re-experiencing trauma was because of our welfare check.I agree that it looks poor that who fronts the bill for counselling costs looks bad but there’s obviously a lot going on in the background that we all don’t know about. What’s to say that the club were advised not to pay for it by its lawyers because doing so would likely result in admitting to fault.
The club would obviously front the bill at the drop of a hat because that cost is absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things but the domino effect of other unknown legalities which could then be tied to it could be astronomical. Like I said earlier there’s a lot that we all just know and will likely never know and trying to connect the dots and fill in the gaps is impossible without knowing all the facts. This goes for the accused, accusers + the HFC and the only parties intentions you can really see all along in this saga is the corrupt AFL that has just wanted to pin the blame on us from the moment we handed them the report.
Of coarse the HFC would want to be providing counselling and paying for every cent of it too but sometimes it’s important to think why we might not be.
Using a slightly similar situation of fault as an example I had a while back we had huge rainfall up our way and a tree fell from my property into my neighbours place. The tree took out the fence and was only slightly touching my neighbours house. My neighbour actually came over to inform me what had happened and the first thing I asked was is if everyone was safe / unharmed and she said yes.
The next thing I was obliged to do was to ring my insurance which I did and they informed me that the SES would be there ASAP to clean everything up and to make sure it was all safe. With the tree falling from my place I actually felt responsible and bad for my neighbour who was a single mother (recently divorced) and asked the insurance person if there was anything I could do to help out and they told me that all I was legally obliged to do was to contact my insurance company which I was obviously doing and that she was to do the same thing. Being a single mother I knew she was struggling a bit so my good intentions was to see if I could maybe help out financially and the insurance person informed me if I was to do so and there was structural damage found to the foundation of the house then I could be held liable if she decided to take it to court.
Turns out my neighbour was actually pretty unstable psychologically so I’m glad I didn’t but anyways I just thought I’d give an example of maybe why the club hasn’t fronted the costs of counselling and only directed the players in the direction of where to seek it. Once again without knowing all the facts I think it’s important not to judge. Apologies for the huge rant
