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Let’s see what the Blues offer up. Will have additional incoming picks from the Dow & Fisher trades.
2023/2024 Gold Coast Draft & Trade periods
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Let’s see what the Blues offer up. Will have additional incoming picks from the Dow & Fisher trades.
We could include LOB if you need a wing replacement
Craig Cameron stated this when justifying the Bowes and pick 7 trade.
“A key component of our strategy this trade period was to pre-emptively position our list to attack the next phase of building our team, allowing us to be aggressive in future trade periods
Do we expect him to be aggressive as he states or lazy, I know what my money is on
What do I mean by lazy? I mean selling Hollands and Chol for unders. I mean, not getting significantly favourable return for pick 4
“A key component of our strategy this trade period was to pre-emptively position our list to attack the next phase of building our team, allowing us to be aggressive in future trade periods
Do we expect him to be aggressive as he states or lazy, I know what my money is on
What do I mean by lazy? I mean selling Hollands and Chol for unders. I mean, not getting significantly favourable return for pick 4
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You can't really think Chol or Hollands are actually worth anything?
What would you think is the correct return for them and pick 4?
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I actually think both are worth second rounders, as both are contracted (Hollands to 2024 and Chol to 2025). Chol has recent currency as GCS leading goal kicker and a nice highlights package, while Hollands has 1st round pick reputation and a stellar VFL GF game.
If a club really wants them, pay up. If not, oh well. We literally do not need the points this year if we trade out pick 4, and can just trade these players next year if we want to.
We can delist plenty of scrap before we are forced to trade these two if list spots become a problem…
I agree that both should secure a second rounder each. Why? clubs needing a ready to go tall forward that are in the window e.g. Melbourne he could be the difference in winning a flag
Hollands if played as an inside mid just proved in the GF that he has what it takes. Again if a club needed a ready to go inside mid, pay up.
If the offers aren’t good enough then keep them in case , Levi / King as forwards or Rowell / Touk as mids goes down
I don’t see why we underestimate the value of our players, Saad is a prime example
Aggressive trade period?
he just collecting what is ours.
And if he chasing future picks for Chol and hollands… just kicking the can down the road some more.
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Chol is a late second I would think, I would not pay a 2nd for Elijah in any way shape or form. Yes he had a good game on the weekend but that doesn't excuse an absolute shitful year from him. Wasn't good at any level. Him and Chol are both victims of laziness and it hampers any value they have. Easy to see on the field.
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Except for the fact that they are contracted. Club holds all power and should be flexing that power.
Other teams do it. Current news is Geelong want a 1st rounder for Ratgolea… like, seriously? Bloke is out of contract and never achieved anything. Absolute joke to even demand that! But you start high and haggle down.
So if we let them go for nothing, that is on the club. We literally have nothing to lose, yet will probably give them away for peanuts and the trade team will clap themselves on the back for the couple of hundred thousand they will save…
I can’t see any reason that our cap is in a difficult space. Surely these two players don’t break the bank. Now, if we were trading them out to bring someone in? Maybe a free agent? Then I guess. But otherwise, what value is there for us?
Big difference with Ratugolea is that Cats actually want to keep him.
If we decided that Chol and Hollands are not in Dimma's plans and we want to get rid of them and other clubs know it we don't get great deals. If both leave, I guess that's 800-850K off the book and possibly serious cap space for future. Targeting someone?
For me Hollands 20-30 (he does have talent although he rarely showed it), Chol 30-40, Burgess and Sharp 50+. For me both Hollands and Chol are often lazy, soft in contest.
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Big difference is for me is that Geelong are not a laughing stock at trade time, and believe their players are actually worth something (even when they are not). It’s about time we grew up and acted like a real club in October and stop doing dumb stuff.
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Hollands is expendable imo, but Chol (even with his faults) is a very useful player to have in reserve. And he would have a lot of value to other clubs too. Wouldn't let him go cheaply, especially as he seems to be the one pushing for the move.
Agree with most of this. Hollands can go as unless his attitude and fitness do a 180 he's just going to rot in the twos next year. Hopefully we can extract a F2.
Chol should have some value based on talent and positional scarcity but if Dimma doesn't want him then he has to go now as he doesn't give the impression he's going to be a great role model if he's playing reserves all year.
If you get their salary off the books ($800k?) and bring other players money forward you open up the cash for Dusty or an A grader next year when our window hopefully opens right up.
Sharp can go, never going to do anything if he stays here.
I'm not giving Burgess up for a 50+ pick, his versatility and being a team player make him the glue that holds the reserves together and if we get an injury at either end of the ground you can put him in the AFL team in a pinch.
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North targeting Chol now too. 4 way fight.
FIRST ROUNDER HERE WE COME
FIRST ROUNDER HERE WE COME
AFL just gave them the last pick in the 1st Rd... come in spinner. Scott Clayton owes us.
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Probably still not enough for Clarkson the sook
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So by the time the trade period rolls around, all 17 other clubs will be interested in Mabs according to ol’ Tommy?
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Chol for dud LDU swap
If you think it does not matter if the club wants to keep a player or not - not sure I can add anything to it
BTW, believe it or not even Cats ca make ordinary draft/trade when they don't want to keep a player who has not delivered yet. Cooper Stevens (pick 16) + pick 25 <-> Henry (pick 17).
Also call me crazy, but now when Suns concessions are over, I don't expect insane deals anymore. OK, let's see. I am maybe too optimistic.
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Also, hopefully this Bulldogs offer for our pick is legit, cos that assistance package reeks of the AFL trying to meddle and force our pick on North. The way they have worded those future picks means they are making North trade them now.
North would essentially get pick 5 as their priority pick, we would get some points for this year and points for next year through 2 future end of 1st picks (Craig Cameron loves him some future pick hoarding so he would be all over it.)
North would essentially get pick 5 as their priority pick, we would get some points for this year and points for next year through 2 future end of 1st picks (Craig Cameron loves him some future pick hoarding so he would be all over it.)
He loves future picks as he has no faith in his own ability to draft talent. This year is his wet dream. Just making picks that everyone expects him to make.
After last trade period Mark Evans said …and I quote. “I know the Bowes and pick 7 doesn’t look good, but judge us after the 2023 trade and FA period.” He acknowledged they were somewhat freeing cap for a reason… I’m yet to hear us linked to anyone of note.
If he wants to go and another club wants him, think we should let him go for a cheap pick.
Has done what was asked of him, has had 2 cracking VFL seasons, and barely got a game (3 games in 2 years).
No complaints or whinging that get out into the media. Just rocks up and plays.
Turns 28 soon.
If we are not playing him in the AFL, then we should let him go cheaply if there is a spot somewhere else.
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Agree, plus the way he rucked when Witts went down, he gave his all to the club but just isn't in our 22. Wish him well
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