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Aw yeah.

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Best South Australian in the draft

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From Knightmare 's phantom draft on ESPN: Knightmare's November phantom draft

4 North Melbourne then later 6 Collingwood - Darcy Fogarty
Height, Weight:
192cm, 95kg
Summary Profile: Powerful, but athletic utility with clean skills. If not for an injury-riddled 2017 he might be in the pick one conversation.

From Brett Anderson on SEN Brett Anderson's 2017 AFL Mock Draft

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6. Collingwood
Darcy FOGARTY
25-Sep-99 | 191.9cm | 94.5kg | Glenelg

The Magpies could go a number of ways with their first selection but opt for the talented South Australian inb a real toss of the coin. If Brayshaw falls through he could be the man, while they'll also look long and hard at Jaidyn Stephenson and Aaron Naughton. They've also been linked to Nathan Murphy. The whisper that has been doing the rounds in recent days is that they could take Ed Richards – that would throw things into chaos!
Who else? Andrew Brayshaw, Aaron Naughton, Jaidyn Stephenson, Nathan Murphy, Ed Richards

(what a crap discussion of the player - the whole paragraph is bet-hedging, for simplicity i've highlighted the bits discussing the player in green)


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From Bishop 's mock draft: Phantom Draft - Bishop's 2017 Draft Thread

Pick 5: Fremantle – Darcy FOGARTY

General Forward (Glenelg/South Australia)
05/09/1999 | 191.9cm | 94.5kg

Scouting notes: Strongly built forward that can push into the midfield. Played up forward for South Australia in last year’s Under 18 Championships booting seven goals. Fogarty played a strong game in the midfield for Glenelg in their finals last year and has been tried as a third tall defender at stages throughout 2017. Has the ability to kick off either foot and can lay bone-crunching tackles. He is more of a third tall than an inside midfielder at this stage. Was ruled out for the season with a meniscus tear in his knee.

In the mix: Few whispers suggesting that Cerra won’t be a Fremantle player which leaves the decision down to probably Fogarty or Naughton.



From zookota123 's mock draft: Zookotas 2017 AFL Phantom Draft Round 1+2

Pick 10 Carlton- Darcy Fogarty- Utility players like Darcy don't come around too often and when they do you should pounce. I haven't seen aggression in a player like Darcy in a very long time. It is a positive aggression that he uses well in his advantage for his gameplay. His balance is also impeccable and reminds me of Dustin Martin when he fends people off when the ball is in his hands and being tackled by three players at once and still standing on his feet delivering the ball with ease and no strain in his face making it look easy. He reminds me of a pitbull dog and will go attack that ball using his smarts,skill and fast pace evasiveness while showing great courage. In 2016 he was phenomenal and my clear number 1 for this years draft, but he suffered a knee injury this year which impacted on his whole year. I saw one of his videos this year with him talking about his footy and he is very mature and a level headed young man. He understood that he had a knee injury and that he could play without having any pain while his knee was strapped, but he also knew he could cause more damage to his knee if he over performed. He was in the catch 22 where he had to perform well to show recruiters his worth. If you are taking the best player in the draft and disregarding a teams needs than Darcy would be my clear choice and being a utility who could be an elite star for a long time. Look at past drafts with utility players such as Stringer, Bontempelli, Fyfe. Don't be surprised if he gets a free pass to go to Adelaide at pick 12.
 
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And whats amazing - is that we are equally shit as a team during those 8 games with only 3 wins from those 8 games.

So whats changed? All of those excuses that have been regurgitated the last 50 pages are still the same from a team perspective.

Its almost like FOG's form is 100% mental. Credit to him - he is having an 8 game purple patch. Lets hope we get that for an extended run.

Wait, what? What's changed? Tex has been hampered by injury, missed a block of time, so did Rankine and he's playing in the midfield otherwise.

I'm not even necessarily offering that as my reason, I do think that confidence is significant. In fact, that was my argument a few years back. You tried to ridicule the suggestion. But it has been a materially different situation. And his output is almost certainly still being limited by the team sucking.

But absolutely, yeah, his current form definitely vindicates the people who were saying he didn't have the traits, and leaves a mess the guys who said that this guy's got talent and should be backed in. Totally.
 

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I can't work out why this thread doesn't get bumped every week any more.

I definitely lost faith in him at the start of the year.

Would love to know what was holding him back early in the year. Easy to say it was delivery but it’s not like we’ve been great in that area recently anyway.

Is it as simple as confidence? And if so, how do we make sure he keeps it?
 
I didn’t realise he had a pretty solid vertical leap. He looks so much better than when he would turn every contest into a WWE match.
Yep, Fog looks close to unstoppable when leaping at the ball. Excellent set of hands on him

Worthy member of the leadership group
 
It's definetly always been between the ears for Fog, he's one of the most talented key forwards in the game ability wise.

Extremely happy that he's finishing the season strongly.
I'm a big G for him, going back to when we drafted him.
While he struts around like a 70s pr0n star, he is really a confidence issue with him.
He just needs to remember to keep working and keep presenting when things arnt going his way. I like that he is running further up the ground to get into the game, because he is a decent link player as well.
 
Wait, what? What's changed? Tex has been hampered by injury, missed a block of time, so did Rankine and he's playing in the midfield otherwise.

I'm not even necessarily offering that as my reason, I do think that confidence is significant. In fact, that was my argument a few years back. You tried to ridicule the suggestion. But it has been a materially different situation. And his output is almost certainly still being limited by the team sucking.


But absolutely, yeah, his current form definitely vindicates the people who were saying he didn't have the traits, and leaves a mess the guys who said that this guy's got talent and should be backed in. Totally.

As always there are a million and twenty excuses when his performance is sub par.

You all mock Vader for the good fog, bad fog - but its clear as dog balls that this has been what has plagued his career since 2022.

He is definitely having a great chunk of games, which is fantastic to see - especially since how poor his first 6 games were. Fingers crossed he can get to 40 goals this year and kick on from that with a consistent 2025 and become a dominant forward.
 
Ha, I love this revisionist thinking that because someone is doing well means criticism of them in the past was unwarranted.

FOG is looking ok now but has looked good for periods in the past too. We know he can play and that's most of the frustration with him. Everyone getting excited about his 13 touch, 3 goal game - he's a 1st round pick that arrived with great fanfare - that should be a par performance for him. Why a guy with his size and strength plays so passively most of the time, I have no idea. He could tear this competition apart but we're so used to mediocre performances from him that standard games are now lauded. Needs to be kicking 50+ goals a year to justify his talent level.
 

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Ha, I love this revisionist thinking that because someone is doing well means criticism of them in the past was unwarranted.

FOG is looking ok now but has looked good for periods in the past too. We know he can play and that's most of the frustration with him. Everyone getting excited about his 13 touch, 3 goal game - he's a 1st round pick that arrived with great fanfare - that should be a par performance for him. Why a guy with his size and strength plays so passively most of the time, I have no idea. He could tear this competition apart but we're so used to mediocre performances from him that standard games are now lauded. Needs to be kicking 50+ goals a year to justify his talent level.
Fair cal. For one poster to keep bumping “his boys thread” whenever Fog lives up to expectations is a little sad.

We all want Fog to be the greatest he can be. Kick 50-60 per year and fully - finally - takeover from Tex. He is still a long way off this level and sadly I don’t think he ever gets there. Tex is his 5th year (Fog now 7th) was ripping games apart and BOG in finals. Fogs ceiling seems much lower now than what I had hoped and expected. A 50 ish type return per year is still pretty good but not elite game changer level
 
Fair cal. For one poster to keep bumping “his boys thread” whenever Fog lives up to expectations is a little sad.

We all want Fog to be the greatest he can be. Kick 50-60 per year and fully - finally - takeover from Tex. He is still a long way off this level and sadly I don’t think he ever gets there. Tex is his 5th year (Fog now 7th) was ripping games apart and BOG in finals. Fogs ceiling seems much lower now than what I had hoped and expected. A 50 ish type return per year is still pretty good but not elite game changer level
He won't be as good as Tex but not many are. Tex is an ATG.

Between Fog and TT though we should still have a one-two punch that is quality.
 
He won't be as good as Tex but not many are. Tex is an ATG.

Between Fog and TT though we should still have a one-two punch that is quality.
Fair call man. I had hoped he would be as good as Tex as very similar players in many ways and Fog was being talked about as a possible 3-5 when drafted (Shifter Sheahan after the draft thought he would have biggest AFL impact of all players drafted that year).

The facts appear to be that he is a couple of levels below Tex but still an above average KPF, just not elite. Agree with TT who becomes the dominant plank and Welsh hopefully a Darling like 3rd tall, then it’s still a top quartile forward line - just not headlined by Fog which was my perhaps my unrealistic expectations

7 years in and he has barely performed to expectations overall averaging 1.7 goals per game in just under 100 games. Heres hoping New Good Old Fogs recent form is his new baseline
 
As always there are a million and twenty excuses when his performance is sub par.

You all mock Vader for the good fog, bad fog - but its clear as dog balls that this has been what has plagued his career since 2022.

He is definitely having a great chunk of games, which is fantastic to see - especially since how poor his first 6 games were. Fingers crossed he can get to 40 goals this year and kick on from that with a consistent 2025 and become a dominant forward.

Yeah, it's not just Vader we mock. You both engage in the dull hate riding, you both decided the guy didn't have the traits necessary, you were both well off, and you both refuse to own it by seamlessly trying to pretend that you didn't do that and you were actually on with someone else.

Here you are having a melt about excuses when you declared that there were no different variables, when they were obvious.

'Since 2022'.
 
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Ha, I love this revisionist thinking that because someone is doing well means criticism of them in the past was unwarranted.

FOG is looking ok now but has looked good for periods in the past too. We know he can play and that's most of the frustration with him. Everyone getting excited about his 13 touch, 3 goal game - he's a 1st round pick that arrived with great fanfare - that should be a par performance for him. Why a guy with his size and strength plays so passively most of the time, I have no idea. He could tear this competition apart but we're so used to mediocre performances from him that standard games are now lauded. Needs to be kicking 50+ goals a year to justify his talent level.

Oh nonsense.

This thread spans back to his first year and is full of people just like you rocking up and claiming he didn't have what it takes. One of them liked your post. It was a deeply divided thread. The idea that 'everyone's always accepted he could play and were just frustrated' is the revisionist retreat.

Those of us who supported the player through years of his 'earn it in the SANFL' droppings, moves to key defence and midfield, and everything else who said he obviously has traits and should be backed in were right. And those who rocked up and said he didn't have AFL qualities, and could never be a player, were wrong. And we're entitled to say so, and will.

God, it wasn't that many years ago you'd get a bunch of likes in this thread by outright lying that you had an inside source that told you that he wasn't going to get a new contract and would be gone from our list.

And even at the start of this week the thread got a weekly bump from the deathriders, who get upset that others won't hate on the guy like they want to.
 
Fair cal. For one poster to keep bumping “his boys thread” whenever Fog lives up to expectations is a little sad.

We all want Fog to be the greatest he can be. Kick 50-60 per year and fully - finally - takeover from Tex. He is still a long way off this level and sadly I don’t think he ever gets there. Tex is his 5th year (Fog now 7th) was ripping games apart and BOG in finals. Fogs ceiling seems much lower now than what I had hoped and expected. A 50 ish type return per year is still pretty good but not elite game changer level

If he maintains the post-showdown level he's exactly at that level. That was the very content of the bump you found so sad.
 
Oh nonsense.

This thread spans back to his first year and is full of people just like you rocking up and claiming he didn't have what it takes. One of them liked your post. It was a deeply divided thread. The idea that 'everyone's always accepted he could play and were just frustrated' is the revisionist retreat.

Those of us who supported the player through years of his 'earn it in the SANFL' droppings, moves to key defence and midfield, and everything else who said he obviously has traits and should be backed in were right. And those who rocked up and said he didn't have AFL qualities, and could never be a player, were wrong. And we're entitled to say so, and will.

God, it wasn't that many years ago you'd get a bunch of likes in this thread by outright lying that you had an inside source that told you that he wasn't going to get a new contract and would be gone from our list.

And even at the start of this week the thread got a weekly bump from the deathriders, who get upset that others won't hate on the guy like they want to.
Didn’t claim he doesn’t have what it takes or that he doesn’t have AFL qualities, actually the complete opposite.
 

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