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Seems similar to the a Fagan Bears strategy..... Vic Country boys stay pretty loyal, are hard, moan less and less likely to get homesick.We actually killed it so hard. All from vic and seem to all know each other and some actually genuine friends.
Talent is only one part of it, but having a close core group that consists of our spine and a few top of the line midfielders is such an insane thing to start with. They'll create a close bond, play for each other, want to create something at the club rather than looking elsewhere.
No point being greedy. Our haul is fantastic as it is.Twomey confirmed Smillie would have made it to 10. We could have picked Lindsay or Tauru at 7 and got Smillie and Hotton. Also no interest in Faull ahead of the likes of Berry and Reid. FMD!
No point being greedy. Our haul is fantastic as it is.
No way in hell he role played every scenario out. If we take one of the saints players they have to take someone else. Same with Melbourne, no way they took the time to talk through all the scenarios if we had taken Lindsay instead of smillie.
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f?ck, I nearly would do thatThe Swans put forward their two first-rounders this year, plus their future first-rounder, in exchange for the Tigers' pick 12 and two later first-rounders.
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Lalor pick 1
WHEN Richmond's recruiting team gathered at Blairgowrie two weeks before the Telstra AFL Draft to confirm its draft order, the Tigers' contingent had a huge decision to make.
Sam Lalor had become their favourite player in the 2024 draft pool – a big, strong, fending-off, powerful midfielder with a physical streak – but his place as the Tigers' No.1 pick still had to be settled. Thinking it was one thing, deciding it another.
They had been weighing him up against Finn O'Sullivan, the midfielder with the fast feet, overhead marking ability and exciting VFL performance late in the year when he auditioned for the Tigers.
They left the mid-week venture on Victoria's Mornington Peninsula with Lalor locked in, ready to make him the club's first top draft selection since Brett Deledio in 2004.
But that was only the first of many big decisions the Tigers had to make as they ruled the first round, using six first-round selections, executing the biggest trade of the draft and walking out with some of the highest-projection players in the draft crop.
Smillie pick 7
Smillie's drafting by Richmond had looked to be one of the top-10 certainties. But if he hadn't have gone at the Tigers' pick No.7, he likely would have gotten through to their next two picks, past St Kilda and Melbourne's selections. However, Richmond wasn't prepared to take that risk – or more accurately, risk another club swooping on one of St Kilda's picks and taking Smillie – and took the 195cm ball-winner at seven.
Hotton and Faull
Lindsay was also right in the frame for Richmond if he was available, while they also strongly considered Allan. While on the clock with their first of two picks in the teens, the Tigers were fielding multiple offers; North Melbourne's future first-rounder (with Harry Armstrong and Matt Whitlock still available for the Roos), St Kilda's first-rounder (as the Saints eyed Berry), a Gold Coast future first-round pick (with the Suns having interest in Taj Hotton, Berry and more) and also a big pick swaps offer from Sydney.
The Swans put forward their two first-rounders this year, plus their future first-rounder, in exchange for the Tigers' pick 12 and two later first-rounders. But the Tigers, knowing the high interest in Hotton in the few picks after them, grabbed the Sandringham Dragon first, before bidding on Kako and taking tall forward Jonty Faull. Faull and Berry were among the players in Sydney's sights, and the Tigers didn't think Faull would make it to their later hand of selections.
Trainor and Armstrong
Richmond, during this period, had taken a breath. But they had to be mindful of a batch of similar clubs having the next group of picks, starting with their own pick at No.21. It was for this reason the Tigers selected Luke Trainor next, knowing Sydney's interest in him with the following pick.
Geelong had floated interest in Richmond's selection, while the Bombers also checked in to see if there was any chance of a move. But the Tigers weren't shifting.
If the Tigers had taken Jesse Dattoli, who was also under high consideration, the Swans would have grabbed Trainor. But Sydney had ranked the small forward Dattoli ahead of the taller Trainor and was glad he was available to them, having already tried to get in earlier to secure him.
Richmond also knew Harry Armstrong was unlikely to be taken by Sydney, so opted to take Trainor first and hope Armstrong got through to their next pick at No.23, which eventuated.
North Melbourne, who had spent more time on the phone than a receptionist, had changed tack at this point. The Roos' offer of a future first-rounder had shifted, with the Kangaroos wanting something decent in return if they did indeed trade out their first pick for 2025.
Armstrong had been on their radar, while Matt Whitlock also remained on the board.
Pick 27
The Swans mulled over picking Shanahan at No.26, having had a gap between Faull and Trainor and their next group of talls, but instead opted for high-flying half-forward Ned Bowman.
Then, with the last pick of the opening night and Matt Whitlock still available, the Roos took one last swing at a deal and finally found a taker. The Tigers, after already securing six first-round picks, were the perfect trading partner.
North Melbourne swapped a future first-round pick for the Tigers' pick 27 and Richmond's future second-round pick, and then selected Whitlock. If the Tigers had held that pick and the Swans opted for Shanahan over Bowman, Bowman was considered a likely selection for the Tigers to add a point of difference to their forward mix.
Sims
The wheeling and non-dealing continued on day two, as Richmond put up its first pick of the night for sale. North looked again – this time to reunite the Whitlock twins at Arden Street – and offered two future second-round picks as part of a deal, but the Tigers' held to take Thomas Sims.
why?AFL rules meant we couldn't trade back pick 11(14) to Freo's pick (17). Otherwise could have traded pick 14 for pick 17 + 30 and still got Faull ahead of Sydney.
i like how Lord Wings seems to know exactly how it would have played out if we took Lindsay or Tauru with 7, those teams who picked them after we got Smillie, what would have they done? picked no one and passed?
Been mentioned many times that Sydney were keen on Faull but hey lets see if he drops to our later pick after them on a personal hunch.
Ridiculous thinking.
Twomey who knows a lot more than you or me said Smille would have got past the saints.
They even drafted a ruck from Dodson's team lmaoWas it Twomey who was suggesting Geelong were one of the teams keen to get their hands on our first pick of the second night cos they were keen on Dodson…. Only for them to use two more picks (well beyond #28) on players other than Dodson?
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Twomey who knows a lot more than you or me said Smille would have got past the saints.
They even drafted a ruck from Dodson's team lmao
Probably.
But what if a club like West Coast or GWS who may have rated Smilie at one or two (some clubs actually did) traded up to get in before us at pick 10? What then?
In this new world of recruiting, it’s multi faceted in that, the next pick isn’t generally decided until it is.
We had Smilie ranked very high. We didn’t want to take a risk.
Like Faull. We had him as our number one KPP, why risk not getting him at our pick?
Blair is up there with the best if not the best in the business.
Think you are missing the key ingredientThat Faull pick scares me. Tested poorly among key forwards at combine and I doubt that he is actually is 195cm. Looks smaller than most of his opponent and the smallest out of Trainor and Armstrong in the club videos.
Game is revolved around effort, fumbled marks with 2 hands on it, plays from behind a lot. In some of his best games people point to I see quite a few lucky free kicks. Little things like that. I see more upside in Armstrong and Simms.
They rated him at #1 for key forwards and his output overall stats wise was quite good so I guess we back them in.
dont underestimate the impact back stress fractures on his ability to get fit. As they said, literally had to sit on his ass for 6 weeks, comes out kicks 5That Faull pick scares me. Tested poorly among key forwards at combine and I doubt that he is actually is 195cm. Looks smaller than most of his opponent and the smallest out of Trainor and Armstrong in the club videos.
Game is revolved around effort, fumbled marks with 2 hands on it, plays from behind a lot. In some of his best games people point to I see quite a few lucky free kicks. Little things like that. I see more upside in Armstrong and Simms.
They rated him at #1 for key forwards and his output overall stats wise was quite good so I guess we back them in.
Perfect. Our missing ingredientThat Faull pick scares me. Tested poorly among key forwards at combine and I doubt that he is actually is 195cm. Looks smaller than most of his opponent and the smallest out of Trainor and Armstrong in the club videos.
Game is revolved around effort, fumbled marks with 2 hands on it, plays from behind a lot. In some of his best games people point to I see quite a few lucky free kicks. Little things like that. I see more upside in Armstrong and Simms.
They rated him at #1 for key forwards and his output overall stats wise was quite good so I guess we back them in.
That Faull pick scares me. Tested poorly among key forwards at combine and I doubt that he is actually is 195cm. Looks smaller than most of his opponent and the smallest out of Trainor and Armstrong in the club videos.
Game is revolved around effort, fumbled marks with 2 hands on it, plays from behind a lot. In some of his best games people point to I see quite a few lucky free kicks. Little things like that. I see more upside in Armstrong and Simms.
They rated him at #1 for key forwards and his output overall stats wise was quite good so I guess we back them in.
I appreciate everyone’s entitled to there opinions but i feel this is very tough on a kid who hasn’t even been at the club for a fortnight.That Faull pick scares me. Tested poorly among key forwards at combine and I doubt that he is actually is 195cm. Looks smaller than most of his opponent and the smallest out of Trainor and Armstrong in the club videos.
Game is revolved around effort, fumbled marks with 2 hands on it, plays from behind a lot. In some of his best games people point to I see quite a few lucky free kicks. Little things like that. I see more upside in Armstrong and Simms.
They rated him at #1 for key forwards and his output overall stats wise was quite good so I guess we back them in.
Thought you had him confused with someone else. The only thing I was worried about is his lack of leap. Just needs to use it in game now.I appreciate everyone’s entitled to there opinions but i feel this is very tough on a kid who hasn’t even been at the club for a fortnight.
I don’t see any merit in questioning his size, there’ll be no issues with his size/height in being the required size to play KPF at AFL. He also had the equal fifth highest vertical leap at the combine.
like katie perry in one of her performances ?Just put springs at the bottom of jonty’s boots so when he jumps he’ll launch up like a rocket