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I’m not aware of this performance but I will say she looked magnificent on grand final day
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highlights don’t do Jonty justice, his game style and presence is felt across four quarters of football.
No he isn’t a great mark but everything good for GWV through finals was through him, he (along with Hannaford/Ough) carried them to the Granny.
He’s always presenting and offering his team outlet options to relieve pressure, and while he won’t take a big pack mark (he’s perfectly fine on lead) he’ll halve the contest and than follow up at ground level either to create a stoppage or win the ball to a teammate.
And then he’ll do it again and again and again. He also hits the scoreboard and kicked huge goals in finals vs Falcons and Chargers.
Compare that to Armstrong, who is more talented and can take a pack mark (though he’s not Tom Lynch plucking everything, more like Ben Griffiths in that he has the ability in his kit bag and so it’s not unexpected when he takes one), but will often perform disappearing acts through out a game and you begin to wonder if he’s out there, especially concerning considering the midfield he had at Sandy. But very good at floating into space on turn over.
I think they’re actually a good compliment to each other, but I always wanted Jonty first as I trust his work rate and effort to present way more.
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Agree fully.
I remember watching the national championship games, and even at the time, I (and others on here) were left with the impression that Jonty Faull was the best KPF playing in the championship. I understand why Richmond rated him first.
They’re both our players now, but in comparison, I thought that Harry Armstrong was a bit lucky with his goals (right place, right time). Faull though worked hard for most of his goals and provided his team mates with plenty of relief at half forward with his work rate.
Yes, he’s not the best contested mark, but his competitiveness is understated. It’d be a huge asset for him at AFL level if he keeps it up. As someone said earlier on here, you can have all the skills you want as a KPF, but you’re not making it if you don’t have a competitive bone. We don’t have to worry about that with Faull.
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These are some wonderful strengths for Jonty Faull according to Rookieme’s analysis:
Fumbles the mark on occasions but does everything else very well. Work rate, competitiveness, mobility, set shot goalkicking. All great strengths.
Fumbles the mark on occasions but does everything else very well. Work rate, competitiveness, mobility, set shot goalkicking. All great strengths.
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Full games.
I've watched 5 games of his and nearly finished the 6th.
I appreciate he is competitive. You need more than that to make it at AFL level. VFL forwards can have work rate and be competitive. I'm not saying I see a bust. You could probably call him a medium floor prospect as he should be able to get the best out of his talent given his strengths.
I'm saying I'm skeptical (on games I've seen so far) that I see a high ceiling for him or high level AFL traits there to justify a pick 14 in a strong draft. I guess we will see in time.
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I don’t disagree with the commentary, I still like Harry a bit more. My issue is that I still think they are both second talls. Sims is the only one that has the size, frame and high marking strength to be the big dog forward. A lot of development needed before he could be that for us, I’m hopeful though.
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Could end up as a key back if he doesn't end up developing as a forward.
Brody Mihocek’esque?
Many scoff at that name, and sure, he’s not A grade. But an honest, high work rate player who’s got 100+ AFL games and 200+ goals is a solid effort. Do you want more from a first round draft pick? Probably!
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You’re making the mistake of taking too much notice of the pick number we secured him with.
We rated him as the best KPF prospect in the draft, which is a reasonable position to take, given the ‘next’ best KPF was also secured by us in the 20’s…. so I’d suggest we were one of MANY clubs who rated Faull the best.
So given we had so many picks, and given how badly we needed a KPF, a major focus this draft would’ve been to secure the player we regarded as the best KPF option, and bypassing him at 11 might’ve meant we lost him.
So I think there’s a decent chance we rated the likes of Berry, Allan or even Trainor as ‘best available’ at pick-11…. but we clearly rated Faull as best KPF and we didn’t want to leave a draft we had 8 x picks in the top-24 without our man.
Pick-11 isn’t as relevant as it would normally be so i wouldn’t worry about it - just pretend we got Armstrong at 11, Trainor at 18 and Faull at 23
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That's an incredible hand. But still to expect all those 8 to go onto 200+ game careers is probably reaching. If they do we will be in flag contention in 5 years!
Mihocek is a great footballer imo.
Considering the currency the Pies got him, he's been a gem for them.
As you say not glamorous but high effort and gets consistent results.
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Imagine if pies had big sexy and Mihocek? He'd be a great foil to a gun FF.
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Edit: That hasn't worked out half as good as I intended when your numbers didn't appear in my quote.
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His shit.
Did you mean he’s or were you referring specifically to his defecation
Lets have a look at the highly rated KPF in this draft
Shannahan , JWhitlock , Armstrong , Faull , Sims
Armstrong was the highest rated and we got him
Then we had our choice of the next 2 of the remaining 4 and cherry picked the 2 we wanted and the other 2 went even later
Our recruiters would have done a mountain of work and forensically gone through every touch these boys had during the last 2 years of football.
Now its all about development and with Gray , Fawcett , Lefau , Sims , Armstrong , Faull all on our list
We need a really good KPF development coach to teach these kids the art of good foward play and not just leave it to an assistant coach.
We need a great specialist coach
Dermie , Lloyd anybody that is a specialist in the art of KPF craft
Shannahan , JWhitlock , Armstrong , Faull , Sims
Armstrong was the highest rated and we got him
Then we had our choice of the next 2 of the remaining 4 and cherry picked the 2 we wanted and the other 2 went even later
Our recruiters would have done a mountain of work and forensically gone through every touch these boys had during the last 2 years of football.
Now its all about development and with Gray , Fawcett , Lefau , Sims , Armstrong , Faull all on our list
We need a really good KPF development coach to teach these kids the art of good foward play and not just leave it to an assistant coach.
We need a great specialist coach
Dermie , Lloyd anybody that is a specialist in the art of KPF craft
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Based on the 25 draft classes from 1995-2019...
Pick 1
200.1 avg. games
16% Premiership players (4)
40% All-Australians (10)
44% B&F Winners (11)
4% Brownlow Winners (1)
4% Norm Smith Winners (1)
Pick 7
155.9 avg. games
24% Premiership players (6)
32% All-Australians (8)
20% B&F Winners (5)
4% Brownlow Winners (1)
Pick 12
114.9 avg. games
20% Premiership players (5)
24% All-Australians (6)
16% B&F Winners (4)
4% Norm Smith Winners (1)
4% Coleman Medal Winners (1)
Pick 14
105.7 avg. games
16% Premiership players (4)
12% All-Australians (3)
4% B&F Winners (1)
Pick 21
86.7 avg. games
4% Premiership players (1)
8% All-Australians (2)
4% B&F Winners (1)
4% Brownlow Winners (1)
Pick 23
77.8 avg. games
8% Premiership players (2)
12% All-Australians (3)
12% B&F Winners (3)
Pick 28
80.4 avg. games
28% Premiership players (7)
8% All-Australians (2)
4% B&F Winners (1)
Pick 58
62.4 avg. games
12% Premiership Players (3)
8% All-Australians (2)
8% B&F Winners (2)
8% Brownlow Winners (2)
Edit: Dane Swan and Lachie Neale were both pick 58's.
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We reached for Faull. Should have taken Reid or Berry.
Sydney know what they are doing
If we didnt take Faull at 14, they would have snapped him up
Faull will be a fan favourite, beast competitor, with sneaky elite athleticism
Will surprise a few
If we didnt take Faull at 14, they would have snapped him up
Faull will be a fan favourite, beast competitor, with sneaky elite athleticism
Will surprise a few
I could sort of understand whinging about Faull as a reach if he hadn’t kicked goals but he kicked plenty after recovering from a rough injury
Not sure there’s really anything to whinge about with that pick. If we’d gone small again and both he and Amstrong had been taken before our next selection the balance of our draft would have been significantly worse
Not sure there’s really anything to whinge about with that pick. If we’d gone small again and both he and Amstrong had been taken before our next selection the balance of our draft would have been significantly worse
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Pick 1...
Thought it was weird he went before Armstrong but we've ended up with both anyway.
