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You keep saying they trusted medical advice, which is a reasonable thing for a player to do. But that is not what happened. Doc Reid wanted to shut the program down. There are text messages between Hird and Corcoran describing how they have to go behind Reid's back and get him out of the loop...

So Brad Scott killed your shinboner?

All my posts in this thread have been about his Brownlow season - I haven’t said anything about his whole career. He played 16 seasons: using his best season doesn't "puts paid?" to anything. https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/puts%20paid%20to Don’t need to put it in “ “ marks. It’s a...

It was actually a very interesting study in human psychology to see Cotchin’s multiple transformations. When he was younger and mentally freer he was an incredibly well balanced, skilled and evasive player. You could then see him tighten up physically and mentally with the pressure of captaincy...

Cotchin was not a stat padder in 2012. As you say, winning the clearance or getting a linking possession could be a cheapie crab kick or ineffective handball. BUT, the stat that tells us whether these possessions are actually effective - that is whether they actually lead to chains of...

How many other Brownlow medallists (of the ones I said had seasons not as good as Cotchin's) averaged at least 27 possessions, 0.95 goals, and 5 clearances? Woewodin (2000) - no Akermanis (2001) - no Black (2002) - no Ricciuto (2003) - no Goodes (2003) - no Buckley (2003) - yes Cousins (2005) -...

I mentioned his 2012 season - I reckon Cotchin's was better (even though they obviously tied for votes)

Just had a random thought about the great man. How good was his 2012 Brownlow year, and how does it stack up to other Brownlow seasons. I would could confidently say Cotchin 2012 was > than: Neale 2023 Cripps 2022 Wines 2021 Neale 2020 Fyfe 2019 Mitchell 2018 Priddis 2014 Mitchell 2012 Judd...

Port Adelaide need more love in this thread. They have AA tall defenders (Aliir, Cornes); AA small defenders (Wanganeen, Burgoyne, Montgomery, Byrne-Jones), AA key forwards (Tredrea, Dixon), AA small forwards (Grey, Wingard), AA ruckmen (Lade, Primus, Ryder), and AA mids (Cornes, Francou...

Not sure if they’re in the top 4, but Dees definitely an outstanding team, when their 2021 team is topped up with forwards like Neitz, Farmer, Bruce, Green etc

I think the team listed by the OP would be better with Lynch in as a key forward (with Riewoldt), moving Richo to the wing, amd getting rid of Grigg. Also would bring in Shai Bolton and get rid of Astbury. That would bring in some outside speed and run

Geelong by the length of 2 Flemington straights. West Coast, Brisbane and Port all have outstanding teams, a shade better than Sydney for mine, due to midfield depth. Hawthorn and Collingwood also excellent, but not quite as star studded in their bottom few, which maybe suggests how...

You might be right. But we also know that Richmond did not win a single final from 2013-2022 (losing finals in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2022) outside of the years that Leppitsch and McRae were at the club, who both served 2017-2020. That could explain the drop off as much as the emotional impact of...

I think the Dees would have gone better this year if they went closer to your team and rolled out David Neitz to stand at full forward

So because Eddy Betts believed the accusations (on the basis of his life experiences) you believed the accusations? Just because racism is a thing, doesn’t mean that you go around believing any and all claims of racism to be true, when the other party strenuously denies them. There are lots of...

Why would you think the coaches are all lying? Obviously, there are any number of plausible reasons why the former players could be lying, why the couches could be lying, and why there could be genuine, honest misunderstanding. It's ridiculous that anyone would choose a side in this situation...

People like you are dangerous. Why on earth would you believe one party rather than another in a dispute over the facts, while knowing absolutely nothing first-hand about the events in dispute? Why would you have any beliefs on the matter at all? This is a point that is almost childlike in its...

No way on god's green earth that Betts gets in ahead of Aker or Stevie J Aker and Stevie may not have kicked as many goals as Betts, but they regularly lined up in a forward pocket and were simply far better and more accomplished players

It doesn't change what the people said, but it should influence how we make sense of what was said. You, and many others on here, were very happy to take what the players said as though it was factual. Many others on here have said that when you have only one side of a story, you should reserve...

The problem, though, is that if you look at Egan's report, he draws conclusions and make recommendations that are consistent with it being an investigation, not a report into how some people experienced something. He way exceeds his scope. This is the problem with 'truth-telling' exercises, in...

That’s because the 2 situations are not comparable. There have been many supporters of various clubs in this thread who don’t think Stewart should be in, since he’s up against all timers like Enright and Hodge. That’s not comparable to what I referred to in my post, which was Collingwood...

I have no problem with the posting, it just irritates me when people make out that somehow only one supporter base is responsible for its continuation.

Indeed, the top poster in this thread is a Geelong supporter, but apparently it’s Richmond fans’ fault that the thread drags on

Actually this derailment was started by Collingwood supporters insisting that Pendlebury should start on the ground instead of Martin, a view not shared by any poster in this thread other than Pies fans. Sadly Richmond fans took the bait, rather than ignoring the pathetic trolling drivel

This is a bit overstated. He averaged 1.5 goals and > 22 possessions in his 2nd season as an 18 year old. By his 4th year, he was 12th in the league for SI, while averaging 24 possessions. Players in front of him for SI that year: Jobe, GAJ, Swan, Stevie J, Boomer, Pav, Buddy, Roughead, N...

Pendlebury has been named on the ground in the AA only twice, Martin 3 times. Martin has been named to his actual position in the AA twice (starting on the ball or half forward), Pendlebury 0. I’m not sure that 4 x benchwarmer is enough for a team of the century

So you think every single person in this thread who has started Martin on the ground instead of Pendlebury is a ‘Dusty fanboy’? You’re a weird unit Fadge

How many times was Pendlebury named to his actual playing position in the AA team? Oh, that’s right. None

This guy knows

Jack ‘Skinny’ Titus. Richmond full forward. 5’9”, 65 kg - 970 goals (7th all time)