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If there have been no risky selections, then why not just go with the phantom draft and save ourselves a salary of several hundred k per year? Also, why does it have to be either/or? Clearly it is both. The difference is though that recruitment at our club have historically been a protected...

The difference is essendon’s recruiting goes from absolutely pathetic to acceptable/decent, whereas other teams go from good to great.

In virtually every other profession and industry, individual job incumbents are held accountable for fulfilling their respective responsibilities. E.g. If I let someone take over and pretty much make my key decisions for me, and I fail to perform as a result, well I would be sacked - and so...

I still think 1998 should be the year. That's ultimately when he became in charge of that department and so he should have accountability over the full period. He was getting paid well so it's fair game to assume he should be accountable. Barring maybe 1999 (by memory), the drafts from 1998 to...

Ok, that's fair enough. I agree 2005 is an arbitrary number and if we were to do this properly it should go back to when Dodo started in 1998.

I don't understand where you're getting your numbers from. The image referred to the year 2005. Here are the number of AAs for each of those teams since 2005: Geelong - 61 AAs West Coast - 41 AAs Sydney - 36 AAs Collingwood - 36 AAs Bulldogs - 32 AAs Hawthorn - 30 AAs Richmond - 26 AAs Port -...

This is actually not a very meaningful stat. What you’ve done here is selectively chosen the stat of number of AA players per team, whereas a more important stat is number of AA awards per team. If you actually examine the number of AAs awarded, then the successful teams like Geelong, Sydney...

I think you’re massively overrating the list. One of the reasons we have to play players out of position is because we have holes in the list that we need to cover for. That’s on Dodo. We still don’t really have a good key forward (Caddy isn’t there despite promising signs). We still don’t...

Have they been good enough to win a premiership or go deep into finals? If so, which team of his was good enough?

It isn’t. And therein lies the problem for Brad. No one will care and he’ll cop the blame anyway. It’s so depressingly predictable yet inevitable unless we drastically improve next year, which is very unlikely.

Doesn’t even come close to addressing my point but whatever. I’m not denying that Geelong have better development and that ours has been bad. Most people agree with that - Geelong are generally a better and more professional club than ours. But they’ve also had WAY better recruiting than ours...

I did not say that at all. I was pointing out that if all of our failure was due to bad development, as you claimed, why do some players make it and others not - when they receive the same level of development?

End of last year I believe.

No, it isn’t. Monfries and melksham also left to play for considerably superior teams which you seem to be forgetting. Also, while arguably melksham was a bit better for the first 2 seasons after moving to Melbourne, since then he has well and truly slipped back to his average self and for...

Lol, ok. So when players succeed it’s due to good recruiting. Yet when players fail it’s due to poor development. So basically dodo is a genius who can never fail.

Lol, so basically Z Merrett is a good recruiting decision and is nothing to do with development. Thanks for making my argument for me.

You’d only need a couple to count the players who improved after leaving as well. Also, if our development is really so bad, why do players like Z Merrett become champions when players like his very own brother and others can’t even make it? Did we just invest more resources into the...

Ryder, hibberd, saad, and Daniher were already guns before they left. That’s why so many supporters were gutted when they left. Houli, D’ambrosio, and Richard’s improved - although d’ambrosio already showed a lot of signs before he left. Melksham has always only been an average player. You’ve...

Lol, what? Can you explain how those players set the world on fire after they left? I’m genuinely confused.

Potentially. But if that were true, it would also be another indication of very bad recruiting by essendon.

He’s been the cause of our losing culture, not the scapegoat. Baring Houli who never really got a shot at essendon, the players who left and went on to win AAs were already good before they left. Most of them have not improved since leaving either: Gumby, monfries, fantasia, Carlisle, Francis...

I’m really not sure if this is a pisstake.

I really don't care if Dodo is a good bloke or if he loves the club. Those things are irrelevant. I would much rather someone who is not nice and who doesn't love the club if that person could actually do their job well and help set us up for success. I agree anger should be directed at the...

It will be a slow burn to recover from the mess that dodo has created. With a few exceptions, the last 5 or so years have been terrible in terms of recruiting and it will take a while to move beyond that. But still, at least now there is some light at the end of the tunnel. There are no...

I wanted him gone well before the saga. His record is atrocious throughout his entire tenure.

Well, the impact of dodo's involvement will be evident for several years to come yet, so yes that's correct.

About 15 years late, but better late than never. We can now finally move on. Will be celebrating tonight.

Not denying that. But at least development has seen some change to try and improve and most people only blame development to shift blame away from recruiting.

Please answer this: how do you develop a tiny mid into a tall and big bodied one? Answer: you can’t. How do you develop a non-indigenous player into an indigenous player? Answer: you can’t, and our lack of indigenous talent in some Dreamtime games is nothing short of embarrassing. Why do we...

27 years.