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would look a lot different if the afl didn't rob us of Mac Andrew.

a) I've done nothing. Gary Pert has. b) No. 'compensation' by definition also applies to receiving draft picks in response to an top line player wanting to leave. c) I don't think any of these people would be unwilling to fall on their sword. Roffey already did and Brad Green has already called...

no they're not. Smith's are worse. Coming off an acl too.

a future 2 is in a worse draft and you lose a 1 year of development. You could be right though. but it's way unders.

who came 3rd that year? Was it Shane McAdam? i.e. the spud that you wanted a 2nd rounder for. Adelaide fans are in no position to talk about talent.

bit of a difference between 7th and almost winning it...

3rd in any BnF is a good player. Carlton scraped into finals after losing to stkilda and won only 2 more games than us. Not exactly a position to be gloating from.

3rd in our Bnf tonight. Very close to winning it.

huh? Pulled what? Really odd post. Keeping a guy to his contract? Yeah, imagine keeping one of the best ever demons players because we won't accept trash compensation lol.

his accolades speak for themselves/defend themselves. Only pretty basic people watch/care about/give credit to the Brownlow. It means nothing to me. Oliver has won the more credible awards. Awards that Cripps can't win.

agreed. but the afl screwed us over by not allowing the trading of future picks (2 years in advance).

You say considerably different yet don't go on to explain any differences. Geelong clearly think they can turn Oliver around. Melbourne will back themselves in to do the same. They just don't want to pour the resources into him. And rightly so.

haha comparing Oliver with Stengel and Mitch Clark. Gotta love Bigfooty. The Geelong board was frothing over getting him, it went into overdrive with about 10 pages in 1 day. Now that he's staying, Geelong fans criticise the dees' decisions :) Embarrassing stuff.

are you listening to yourself? Petracca wants to go to Carlton. Is he going to Carlton? No. Why? Carlton have no picks. Same thing with Oliver.

huh? what are you banging on about. 'to do whatever he wants'...yeah, that's why we're shopping him around..your logic is deeply flawed. You realise if Oliver goes to Geelong, then you'd be the ones paying him 10 million? lol. The Gift that keeps giving? Yeah the 2021 gift was great.

What do you expect? the guy was waking up in ambulances, snapping windscreen wipers and rocking up to pre-season 10kg overweight. Don't put this on Melbourne! This is 100% on Oliver. Fancy expecting to feel wanted after his behaviour.

umm yes. twice the player. Multiple BnFs, AA's, and 2x afl coaches award. Awards coming out of his ears. I would rephrase the question, you're in your flag window and you can only take 1 player for the next 3 years, which one are you taking? Clearly it's Oliver.

You don't understand. Melbourne is stuffed whether we keep Oliver and Petracca or not. So we may as well wait for a time that suits us, not other clubs. Everyone was wrong on Petracca. Those people have gone quiet. And I suspect it's the same people now that are certain Oliver is going.

yeah. and he could be the best player in the game again. Oliver was a standard setter with his training standards for many years. Clearly he's gone off the rails. So the question is all risk v return. You're picking up Bailey Smith who you'll give up pick 15 for. Bailey Smith is coming off an...

we will always be able to get a late first for him next season from most contending clubs. Oliver is worth 2 first rounders right now. Clearly he has trade value. You don't pay a guy $6 million dollars who has no currency. You realise how silly that sounds. Opposition coaches still tagged him...

yeah thats fine. Oliver will always have currency. Even if he has another poor season there will always be clubs who will roll the dice on him.

haha. Kozzie loves the melbourne footy club. he's staying. Stop making up stuff. Oliver will stay. Everyone said Petracca would go too. what happened with that? He stayed.

lol at all the Geelong fans who got so far ahead of themselves listing Oliver in their beat 22 for Round 1 next year. 🤣 Come on now. You've got nothing to give us. Clearly we can wait a year and by then Geelong will have better picks.

The irony that a future 1st round pick from Geelong would probably mean the dees end up targeting Tairon Ah-mu, a guy in the dees nga academy that the afl made up some technicality to ensure we couldn't draft him. Off the back of Mac Andrew being ripped from us. Add in the mix that the afl...

1. Hawks 2. Brisbane 3. GWS 4. Sydney 5. Geelong 6. Carl 7. Port 8. Dogs 9. Frem 10. Adel 11. Ess 12. St Kilda 13. Gold Coast 14. Coll 15. North Melbourne 16. WCE 17. Melb 18. Richmond

Regardless, if I'm Melbourne, we'd want something in this years draft, not next years. I can't see this getting done.

yeah, it does. I'm not demanding 2x top 10 picks. You're offering the same for Bailey Smith who has equal, if not more risk considering his history and now coming off an acl.

because, he's been a head case. You don't lose your talent though.

You're comparing Grundy to one of the greatest mids in the game. please. Grundy is a spud and I saw that first hand when he was at the dees.

He was All-Australian in 2022 as well as being voted the game's best player by the AFL Coaches. Do your research before you post. Next