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I heard he fell out with the big money man at SB who wields a fair bit of influence (obviously). Of the recruits Black brought in, all on very big money, many didn’t really fire a shot. Also questions over selection including selection and use of his own son. They really wanted to win this...

It used to be possible to keep a club in a league against their will. NFL did it with Heidelberg. Who knows if it’s even possible any more, AFL Vic doesn’t seem to have a process. They just let clubs go where they want. Which isn’t a good thing - there’s no thought of the future or health of...

The wide shots here are amazing. Looks brilliant.

Somebody should do a team of all ex FTG players and juniors currently playing elsewhere. Would probably win the Premier Div flag.

That's all fine. If people want to view things that way and it becomes the prevailing narrative, that's up to them. None of these sites represent the official records of the Football League or the Premier League. Carter wants the AFL to change their official records to co-opt and include VFA...

Recognised by who? You’ve just quoted some random website. Go and start your random website and make a table showing whatever you like. It’ll be exactly the same. The league’s official records don’t do this, and nor should they. What you’re so frustrated about is narrative. So go and change...

Everybody just building empires.

A thing of beauty. Remains unchanged from 1888-89 apart from expansion and 3 points for a win, both overwhelmingly positive changes. Pos Team P W D L GF GA Pts 1 Preston North End 22 18 4 0 74 15 40 2 Aston Villa 22 12 5 5 61 43 29 3 Wolverhampton Wanderers 22 12 4 6 50 37 28 4...

Geelong can claim whatever it likes. It’s their business. Demanding the AFL change their own records to reflect it, however… please.

People can accept what they accept. You can say whatever you like. So can your club. I don’t know why it wouldn’t be “okay” to say it. Essendon has won 20 flags. It’s okay to say that. It’s a fact. Nobody else cares. But you won’t see the Premier League acknowledge ManU as 20x title winners...

Look at your list and try to work why Colin Carter doesn’t agree with you.

There is no independent “official” tally of premierships. In either sport. In England the Premier League does the Premier League. The Football League (now the EFL) does the Football League. The overriding body is the FA, but they don’t get involved in these things. The Premier League records...

He talks about shaping up or shipping out but really, it’s just empty rhetoric as we’re not placed to do anything meaningful in terms of shipping out. I’ll say it again, our list is in quite a bad spot. Laverde and Stringer aren’t tough decisions, they’re just the most obvious, logical moves...

The whole 50 club goal is a mirage anyway, it won’t last, Glen Waverley folded, Forest Hill and Nunawading possibly not too long for this world when you look at how they’re going. The bigger picture is clubs plundering each other isn’t going to work, all of Nunawading is going to Norwood, all...

Another one from Nuna to Norwood, James Lever. Interesting approach from Norwood, not sure it’ll help them much. As for Nunawading they’re clearly being gutted and are a watch I’d say.

🤣 no chance, they’ll be off looking for more clubs again straight away

Here’s a funny one - have it on very good authority that Doncaster East have and are looking to sign multiple top-line VFL players. These players are permanent VFL fixtures and have made it clear they will not train or play for Doncaster East. They’ll never even set foot in the joint. Most...

They’ve been saying the exact same thing for two years. Just stop with this shit and get to work building a squad that can win a flag.

Good get for Kilsyth with former Basin / Berwick key forward Jackson Drake - if he can get over his injuries.

Sign a contract, see it out. Pretty simple.

I am secretly CEO of Essendon, ya got me 🤫

I mean you read it and responded to it, so it wasn’t all in vain 👍

He wants to travel the world young. His missus doesn’t like footy 🤣 It’s a two-way street. Somebody in Joey’s position is a very, very valuable resource and a lot of people rely on him. It’s not an individual sport. Just see out your contract. It’s not all about you. Agree to disagree.

Nah, more than a few players have left Essendon and won flags. That’s footy, doesn’t bother me. It might if they beat us in a GF, but that’s not happening!

Phoning it in would indeed be selfish, but there’s more than one way to be selfish. Winning is a huge team effort - you commit to a team to see it through. Don’t like footy? Fine. Don’t sign the contract. List management is a tough caper in the tight confines of the AFL. Brisbane have...

Just for a bit of balance, let’s be clear - Joe doesn’t like footy and only cares about one thing - Joe. That extends to signing contracts. He tried to weasel out of his Essendon contract and now he’s walking out of his Brisbane contract. Nobody ever forced him to play footy - his father and...

Lot of love for Joe, I can’t really get around it. All about how “he’s walked out on a huge contract” like it’s totally selfless. I mean, they pay him for a reason. He is part of the team and they need him to be at their best. What is wrong with, ya know, fulfilling the contract you signed...

Really interesting to read back Yoda_ Caldwell and Durham the huge bolters I don’t think anybody really saw it coming. Our CBAs as posted in the Hobbs thread: Zach Merrett (23) 521 Sam Durham (22) 305 Jye Caldwell (23) 300 Darcy Parish (12) 212 Jake Stringer (23) 204 Archie Perkins (18) 178...

That’s all true, but if you ask anybody, it has 100% had an impact. Players are being paid less than they were 10 years ago. So while it may not be adhered to, it seems like it is having an effect.

He’d have to play for that to be the case. And play where he was picked to play, in the midfield. If these stats are right - I think they are - it shows exactly where he is. Centre Bounce Attendances (2024) Zach Merrett (23 matches) 521 Sam Durham (22) 305 Jye Caldwell (23) 300 Darcy Parish...