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  1. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Discussion (cont in Pt 2)

    Any athletic testing available for D Fog? How does he rate for speed & endurance? Looks like a great power athlete but how much work is he going to need to do on his tank to get up to AFL standard? If there's nothing major wrong there will be hard to go past him at 8.
  2. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Discussion (cont in Pt 2)

    Take 2 of Rayner, Dow, LDU, Cerra, Brayshaw, Coffield of Stephenson if there. We are guaranteed at least 1 of these and will likely have 2 available. Ideally one of those two is Cerra/Brayshaw in which case I'm not worried about taking a Coffield/Stephenson as a utility type with the other...
  3. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Discussion (cont in Pt 2)

    Jack Higgins debate has me wondering if there's a similar player type available for our later picks. What are people's thoughts on Brent Daniels as a moneyball midget for p45? Speed, agility & touch needed for a small fwd and seems to know how to find it too. Knock seems to be that he...
  4. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Discussion (cont in Pt 2)

    I reckon we bring Lamb in to play as a winger.
  5. CommonGround

    2017 Trade & FA Targets - The Last Supper #Ameetos

    I like the look of some of the kids expected to go late 1st/early 2nd. Murphy, Petruccelle, OBrien, Moore could all add that something different to our list. Would prefer to turn Hickey into a 2nd rather than trade down on 8 though. Think we can get 2 guns for 7 & 8.
  6. CommonGround

    2017 Trade & FA Targets - The Last Supper #Ameetos

    That's OK. We need list spots for all our FA signings
  7. CommonGround

    2017 Trade & FA Targets - The Last Supper #Ameetos

    Getting late in the piece now so I want to see us do some housekeeping and get smart about re-positioning our lower picks to 2018. Points mean nothing this year because there are very few f/s or academy stars. It won't be the same next year. We should be pushing our 3rd & 4th round picks into...
  8. CommonGround

    2017 Trade & FA Targets - The Last Supper #Ameetos

    Change it up a bit on this selecting a destination club issue. If at the end of a contract the player & club can't get a deal done with the club of choice then let the go to the draft (ND only - no PSD option). If they are picked in the draft the club they are leaving gets the next draft...
  9. CommonGround

    2017 Trade & FA Targets - The Last Supper #Ameetos

    Resign Paddy on a long term deal - give him 4 years. Front load the contract to buggery and fill up the 2018 cap. Only risk is with concussions not talent, workrate or loyalty so worst case scenario he retires early and we have only a small amount of cap taken up for last couple of years. All...
  10. CommonGround

    2017 Trade & FA Targets - The Last Supper #Ameetos

    Our priority now should be to upgrade our later picks (43, 57 & 61) into either a pick in the 20s this year or a future 2nd. As they stand now the low picks have basically no value to us. Anything below 40 and I'd be using 7&8 in the draft + a rookie upgrade only. With limited list spots and a...
  11. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    His ability to break out of a pack with the ball with pure strength in some of the Sandy games was a level above the other guys. It just didn't happen often enough. If he can work on the speed over the first few steps when escaping so he can really nail his kicks and he can just get himself...
  12. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    As stated in the post I agree with you that in Jack's case his value to the team will be higher than his trade market value. With the number of half backs we have surely in the next year or two there will be at least one that has more value to someone else than to us.
  13. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    I don't know why consideration for trade is seen as having a crack at the player. There are a few untouchables on every list (and not always the best players), but after that each player should be assessed in terms of what value they add to the team v their trade value on the open market. Team...
  14. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    Ruck depth is an area I think we can start to change our strategy on as we get closer to the top. Rucks are generally able to generate more value at the trade table, particularly developing rucks likely to be able to take the No.1 ruck role. I think taking 4 developing rucks is OK during our...
  15. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    We have to be careful not to be so intent on keeping best 22 players that we miss out on getting genuine star quality in. In trades we need to be willing to let something go to improve the top end of the list. The McEvoy trade was a great example of this. So many of the best 22 or even u23...
  16. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    I suppose it depends on your definition of Marquee. By the definition of 4 that are top 10 in a premiership side quality maybe marquee is the wrong word, either way there are a few players around. We know we are short on mids but I still think we are 1 KPP short too. Without the runs on the...
  17. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    2016/2017 long range strategy. This is based on my assessment that we still have 4 of our top 10 players in our next premiership yet to join the club. I.e. we are still 4 genuine A graders short. These players will need to come from primarily trade and FA and are needed to replace our older...
  18. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    Just watched Coughlan's 2014 highlights. Love the way he uses both feet. Great asset to have in any position but particularly in defence with the forward press teams are putting on these days. Have seen way too much in recent years of saints coming out of defence with great run but then having...
  19. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    Go Tahana or Glen then.
  20. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    Just watching back at the draft and something seems wrong with the either the bidding or the graphic used for the Richmond bid on Hipwood. Graphic says pick 14 and 39 for picks 36 and 37. Should be bid 14 (1161 pts less 20% = 929 owed) Brisbane use pick 36 (502pts) now owe 427 Brisbane use...
  21. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    And on we goe to the Rookies! I'm a fan of (in order): Tahana Glass-McCasker Glen Parsons Snelling Nyuon Holmes & O'Kearney look like they could be OK as depth players too (and may be better players now than some of the above) but I can't see as much scope for improvement. Trout seems to...
  22. CommonGround

    Review National Draft 2015 Discussion

    Targets for the Rookie? Of the names still floating around I like Glass-McCasker, Holmes, Crocker, Parsons and wouldn't be against trying out the Gach as a mobile ruck.
  23. CommonGround

    Review National Draft 2015 Discussion

    Our boys Tucker and Matho go interstate. Let's see if the queries turn out to be true and if not go get them when they want to come home. Weller Tucker Matho all OOC end of 17. Will complete the 2018 premiership team.:D
  24. CommonGround

    Review National Draft 2015 Discussion

    What if no bid for Rice at all. Can we get him as an automatic rookie selection?
  25. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    Agree on the future looking bright for the Sudanese boys. The athletic profile of the seems to be fantastic so as more guys make it around to AFL lists and lifts the participation numbers, I think we'll start to see some guys with both the athletic capability and genuine football nouse. They...
  26. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    I'm a fan of Gresham. I think the clean hands, balance and composure he shows in the pack from his metro highlights are more important than size. Just looks like a genuine footballer. I think sub 180 height is really only a problem as a defender. With Armitage already there, if we can get Acres...
  27. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    I see where the AFL is coming from but if our rd5 pick moved up the order after the academy picks and became worth some points then by not having it we could unfairly carry debt next year. All unlikely given rd3 and rd4 should cover rice points safely but if the bid came at pick 20 it could be...
  28. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    Final draft order released by AFL. Can anyone tell me why we don't keep our 5th round pick in the order? If we match a bid for Rice that uses our 3rd and 4th surely our 5th rounder would then be higher than our 4th which gets moved to the back of the draft.
  29. CommonGround

    Prediction Pick 14/Draft Night Predictions

    Names in our range that come up for me (that I'm keen on) are: Matho Tucker Ah Chee Bonner Milera Balic Oliver Burton Of the first 3 i can't decide which I'd prefer. The fact that these guys will start getting picked anywhere from 5 onwards but we can't seem to pick which ones will still be...
  30. CommonGround

    List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

    Sadly that'd be my guess too. Wouldn't be surprised if both he and Roberton are playing roaming utility roles next year. Roberton probably more wing, Gilbert more inside when he goes into middle with still 60%+ time down back. I think something we can take from Hawthorn's game is the way they...
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