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hmm whats worse a ripper second half to the yr or a ripper first half only to fade away.classic house of cards maybe. just saying. anyway seems others have been there done that and its not worthy of discussion. as is your comments. me i think our list is crap and have done for a long time...

as a tiger supporter who for the last 15 yrs has thought we are no where near a premiership top 4 or god forbid a genuine top 8 side i can categorically state the following has nothing to do with sour grapes.im as critical as anyone of our team and with good reasons imo. im interested to know...

the only part of that post i object to is the first sentence. a broad statement about the supporters where every one is lumped together. there are many of us who have not rated the list for yrs now. what annoys me with the supporters who do overrate the side is they never ever seem to go thru...

They may not be the be all end all. They certainly remain very important though. Its still the place where you find your high quality players. now this is a sensible post its exactly what ive wanted richmond to do for the last 25 yrs. unfortunately at my club theres a cancer called delusion...

sheesh i suppose rioli and bruest dont fit your formula either. milne went with in a bad bounce of premiership glory.wce would probably have won back to back premierships if matera was not injured late in 2005. these blokes are all a part of an overall package. every side needs good sml fwds...

geez there are some shit stirrers on bf. eddie walked out and didnt want to be in melbourne any longer. carlton did the right thing by a player who had given them very good service and let him go. as for eddies pay packet hes an ELITE FWD sml or other wise. if 400k is now the ave then yes...

we could well be 2 and 8. the alarm bels were loud and clear when we were 3 and 10. not totally surprising for some of us. yet 9 in a row fooled the rfc and many supporters. the club had two ways to look at it at the end of last yr. we were really poor hence the 3 and 10 or the real richmond...

i dont expect much from the list at all. ive not rated it in hardwicks time. at the end of the day there are just 6 or 8 players (cant remember which) that were there before hardwick. it is basically hardwicks list. hardwick has got heaps wrong and he continues to do so. sadly a lot of what is...

how about the last 15 yrs remembering we have made finals just 3 times in that period and havent won a final since 2001. i really cant believe any thinking person would throw this up today. from 2000 frawley got 5 yrs. wallace got 5 yrs and now softwick is in yr 6. there hasnt been any rush at...

im hoping the club at least dont focus just on hardwick. yes he should go, but!!!!! they have to focus on all areas that continually fail. sacking hardwick atm and doing nothing else will resolve nothing.

did i say theres only fj.i was speaking about the nd and thus jackson recieves all the info looks at the players in question ranks em and ultimately has the final say. just where would you like the buck to stop when it comes to recruiting in the draft. we made him THE RECRUITING MANAGER . hes...

head of recruiting last time i looked is francis jackson. what does head of recruiting imply to you. he was at the club in 2005 as a part timer. thats important because in 2005 there was miller part time and jackson part time.. he was given the full time position of head recruiter in early...

bit harsh imo. me id like for my club to offer him a contract. i thought he had tracked along very nicely and was just starting to blossom in 2012 and early 2013 when he did his knee in rnd 5 or 6 i think. i know it was early 2013. reckon he has plenty to offer.just needs a good run at it now.

hmm chicken little. rather insulting to people who think for themselves and dont swallow hook line and sinker every bit of spin the club puts out. hardly chicken littles here mate most of us have been saying this stuff for yrs now. lol we have zero depth but our recruiting will fix it. your...

Thats fine Ron you have your opinon i have mine. Its also okay if you wish to interpret the debate as the above, But you know deep down your just being defensive and selective. Its all good ive put up with this sort defensive mechanism for many yrs now. I dont want to raze anything that would...

been saying this for 15 yrs. horse in front of the cart. while hardwick has lost direction, i thought he was on the right track his first 3 seasons the problem remains the list. its been the problem for 33 yrs. the club has to get the footy dept in order it has to be on a par with the best...

1/i didnt say we improved playing our youngest sides. i said hardwick cut an awful lot of those mid aged experienced players in his first and second yrs. the very same sort you think we shouldnt cut now because we will bottom out for too long. what rubbish. i do know we were very young in 2010...

you dont need to jog my memory ron. how did hardwick take us from bottom to competetive in three yrs. he cut middling players, he cut underachievers. he cut experienced players who performed just like a lot of the middling players we have now. he played younger blokes who looked likely. where...

and considers himself a tasmanian. geez petterd has a tassie link. his old man pedro or wayne was a tassie lad and a damn good player at hobart.

so its gone from cutting experience out to cutting the middle out either way what i said before stands. no one is calling for the middle to be suddnly gone . but we have to acknowledge a lot of the middle is not up to it. what the hell makes you think our list is significantly better than...

my argument is, if we dont go backwards to go fwd we will end up in shit regardless. richmond people and more importantly the club have to realise the list is ordinary. there is no depth, andd importantly too many of the older players are a part of the problem. imo we have got to this point...

yep it hits you in the face. theres not a lot of experienced quality to come in. what frustrates me is supporters are so focused on the right now.of course chaplin will give more than say an elton but we sure arent going anywhere with chaplin. id rather find out what elton may have to offer with...

last post on this. this is what id be aiming towards or something along these lines.with the players we have over the next 18months or so.clearly some areas still need addressing but better to go this route than persevere with a group of players who cant take us anywhere. b: vlastuin 21 -...

agree. we dont have the players.if a new coach came in there is a bit to work with and build on. the biggest problem is getting the club to accept we are miles away.we need to look to try players who may be a chance to make it, even if it means going backwards. at the same time keep a semblance...

no ones saying throw out 20 players in one yr. no ones saying that every bloke like houli should be cut today. we do have to recognise that they arent the answer though and have an eye to replacing them.the vast majority of our top 25 or so players are aged 23 or older. no ones wanting the...

1/ yes you are and im not getting personal. 2/ says it all. why the need to troll at all. 3/ we agree. 4/ we totally disagree. he was within his rights to do much more. only the fact hes a media personality prevented it imo. what a lousy position to be put in.

geez i know one thing, i wouldnt want at him at my back if some boof heads started some trouble.. you would get your head caved in while he procrastinated on weather my assailants deserved to be put in their place or not. worse hed probably walk away.

being harangued harrassed and your personal space invaded is every means for lashing out. and yes you are defending the port idiots behavior. but i expect nothing more from some people. look your obviously trolling. unlike those port supporters your doing so from the safety of a computer...

why not. why should he you or anyone have to put up with that sort of crap. no one has to sit still and do nothing.no one.time to put the onus back on these dip shits who have no respect for anyone or anything.they seem to think its their god given right to GO OUT GET PISSED act like a moron...

and if we are honest it should have been a whole lot more. you sir are an apologist for bad behaviour. are you seriously sitting there and saying you would accept that sort of carry on from anyone. even an ap[ologist like your self would be with in his rights to react. your having a go at...