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    News Media Thread, 2024: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

    The Australian Sports Media's obsession with crowd numbers baffles me. Pick any popular sport (AFL, Cricket, Rugby, Basketball) and there will be commentary around crowd numbers. Have never noticed this for overseas sporting events (e.g. Ashes in England). Honestly, WGAF. The story is what is...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Any relation to Kevin Caton (1 game for WCE in 88)?
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    There were elite skilled players in every era. But you really can't compare the players of the 80s and 90s to now. Remember getting flogged by Hawthorn in 88 (as a child). Dunstall kicked 7, but he had so much space in the F50. You only had to kick it within 5 meters of him and he would mark...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    It is going to be difficult to force a good trade for Oscar. Reason being, we don't want to match a 7+ year contract, as Oscar will accept this and stay with WCE. Then the only way a trade happens, is if both clubs benefit. Worst case scenario is he goes to Sydney on a 7+ yr deal. We then...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    I wish the AFL would do something for the benefit of all clubs, and designate a mandatory maximum contract length of 5 years (for all players). It would protect clubs from themselves, and it would also remove the media negotiation tactic used by players and managers ("I really need a longer...
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    List Mgmt. Welcome Bo Allan (Pick 16, 2024 National Draft)

    Welcome Bo, hope you have a great career with us. You weren’t my first choice. Here’s hoping you make me look like a fool. Also having Allan and Berry going in the 2 picks before Freo is just too good 👍
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    Competitions Draft Quiz - 2024

    1) Lalor 2) When will bids be made on the following Academy/FS players? i) Levi Ashcroft 5 ii) Leo Lombard 11 iii) Isaac Kako 12 iv) Sam Marshall 20 3) Tauru, Harry Armstrong 4) Murphy Reid 5) Pick 8 6) St Kilda 7) Noah Mraz 8) 66 9) Pick 56 or after 10) B Jack Ough 11) 5 12)...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Obviously with 13 or 14 included
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Surely the Berry interest is a bit of gamesmanship on our part. I've read Port and Freo are both interested in Berry. Maybe they can offer their 29 or 30 to move up to 12?
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Get the feeling that if our club rates a tall prospect as best available / best value (at whatever pick) they will draft the player (irrespective of list needs/balance). We do have a great record with recruiting talls. Only problem with that is, we end up trying to rebuild our midfield with...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Think I'd rather take all our existing picks to the draft, than do any more business with Richmond. We already bent over backwards to get them "fair" compensation for Baker. If our preferred target is available at Richmonds picks, they should let him slide to us. Might have to get Phil to...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Pat Maginnity was competitive. Just saying ✌️
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    Banter The No Dazzlering Big Cricket Thread

    I just wish the media would move on from writing stories about Bancroft. No need to keep dredging up the past and providing multiple justifications for his non selection (that don't include sandpaper gate). He's out of form and not making runs, no commentary is needed at all.
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    Society/Culture Why are young males now more right wing then older males?

    As the parent of 2 teenage male Trump supporters, I can add a few comments: They like him because they think he's funny He personally appears on all the platforms they like UFC etc They believe the surface level arguments from his camp (immigration, Harris has done nothing for the last 4...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    You may be giving our list management team too much credit. If anybody could tell us before the draft; who our preferred pick at 3 was (that wouldn't be there), it would make sense. However, they can't/won't. I am sure we will hear after the draft that, whoever Richmond draft at 1 was our...
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    List Mgmt. Leadership Qualities in Recruiting

    We hear every year how Player A - has excellent leadership traits, future captain etc ... My question is, how much of a role does leadership potential play in selecting a player in the draft? and Would a club ever choose, a lower ranked (on talent) player based purely on superior leadership...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Yep, pretty depressing really. To think we are picking in the same zone as Port (who finished in the top 4). Is there much of a drop off between 12 and 18 - 22? Are we better off swapping with Sydney to get two role players instead of 1.
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    I think Allan most resembles Brayden Maynard in style and physical attributes (perhaps with more endurance) This is Maynards Rookie Me profile pre draft https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2014/08/09/2014-draft-profile-brayden-maynard/ . The profile looks very similar to Allans'. Maynard is a...
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    News Media Thread, 2024: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

    Nothing wrong with the article. However, I do feel Duffield gets paid by the word/line. He writes great swathes of text that could be easily summarised into a few sentences.
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    We need to make sure Harley doesn't come out of contract. If by the end of 2025, he doesn't sign on (we offer to trade him in the 2025 trade period). That way we should get the best return. Trading him at the end of 2026 would be problematic, and would open the door to Geelong shenanigans.
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    Stock’s media release reads very condescending to me. At least own your mistakes. 3 for 12 and 14 was a poor deal however you spin it. It may have been the best offer at the time, in that case we needed to change our approach. We could have moved 3 into future picks or a combination of...
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    I hope you guys aren't getting your hopes up that Richmond will now offer us a favourable deal to get back into the draft. The quid pro quo was upgrading Freo's 18 to 14, so they could get 10 and 11. Now we have a pick before Fremantle and can take Allan (who they were keen on). Yes it...
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    List Mgmt. Welcome Liam Baker

    Wouldn’t never post hate on someone’s socials. However, still can’t comprehend why professional athletes allow public comments / direct messages on their profiles? Maybe it helps with hook ups or something, but you sure are going to cop some hate at times.
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    List Mgmt. Welcome Liam Baker

    Posters are angry, and who can blame them. Many believe Baker’s desire to see his previous club well compensated, contributed to our club making that ridiculous trade. I don’t think anyone will be booing Liam come round 1 2025. As for Phil “well if Sydney had won the grand final, posters...
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    List Mgmt. Welcome Liam Baker

    Hi Liam Welcome to the club. Hope you like playing for a bottom 4 side, as you and your Richmond mates have set our rebuild back years. I won't be booing you, but I can't say I wouldn't say some choice words to Matt Clarke if he dares to show his face in public in Perth.
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    I think this Warner talk is just a convenient way of excusing this appalling trade. If we were certain (Warner was coming next year) we could have traded 3 for a potential future top 5 pick and extras.
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    News Media Thread, 2024: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

    For years, we have paid slight overs and taken slight unders to get trade deals done. With the limited assets we have, we just can't afford to take this approach this year. We have good relationships with a number of clubs. I am sure if Baker played for Sydney or the Western Bulldogs the...
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    List Mgmt. Welcome Campbell Chesser (Pick 14, 2021 National Draft)

    HBF may be Chester's best chance to cement a position. However, I don't think we can squeeze him in there. Current defence: Ginbey Gov Duggan Hough Edwards Cole That's without considering: Witherden, Maric and Hunt. Then depending on if we draft (one of Lindsay, Travaglia or FOS), that...
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    We may select him if he is available. WCE love a player with good character.
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    Barrass for 14 and 30 14 for Baker and 24 Is acceptable (not great but OK). Any less than this (we are overpaying) Any down grade of pick 3 should be a separate deal
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