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Get off your high horse mate. This moral grandstanding makes me want to throw up.

What the whole basis of your argument is that you know more aboriginals than me? Hahah. I grew up in a rural town in North QLD with people who were 100% aboriginal. Not 20% like the supposed 'aboriginal academics' running around Canberra are. I take it you have probably lived inner city your...

^ point i was trying to make.

So by your logic it is alright for a black person to call a white person a white C***?

There is no difference at all. In fact, the implication of suggesting that there is a difference is racist.

Mate stop your moralising and grandstanding over nothing. Build a bridge and get over it. I really don't see how being a black c*** is "a put down to individuals and their race." I would love to see you out here grandstanding up on your soap box when someone is called a White c***. But I suppose...

I tend to agree, it really isn't racism in the true sense of the word. I personally don't have a problem with it in that sense. Someone can be white and also a C***. The n word is another story.

India got lucky as usual - doctored pitches and a gift of a draw. Overrated at all levels of cricket. Any australian side of the last 12 years would have made mince meat of them.

The little man needs to be moved on immediately. I don't believe he is the right man to move the club forward. I applaud him for his efforts in engineering the hawthorn football clubs premiership in 2008, but his tenure needs to end. The best assets of our team are buddy and roughy. Both...

totally agree. the problem is you got 6 players who are probably in the top 20 players in the competition but we got 12-14 who are in the bottom 20 in the comp. no depth whatsoever and clarkson trades away kennedy and mighty mouse. what a tool

bulls sh^t the little jockey clarkson has to go immediately. game plan is in shambles and seems to think its a great idea to handball to people in trouble and slow the ball up rather than kick it long and direct to the two best fowards in the comp with rioli at their feet. that potato barker...

two of the best power forwards in the comp with rioli at their feat and his game plan is to handball and muck around in the backline until someone gets tackled or to hold the ball up as much as possible and wait for the other team to flood back and triple team buddy. also a top move going in...

The training reports are much appreciated - thankyou to those that posted them. Living in Queensland it is always difficult to get any news on how the team is training.

A total lack of respect for a great champion of the club. Those saying crawf should hang it up need to take a good look at themselves. He has given the club 17 years of great service, it should be his decision and his decision only. Its a good thing he probably wouldnt listen to the idiots on...

not worth it. 28yo coming to the end of his career. there is no room for him in our side and he would prove to be an expensive waste of time. for those that suggest we should pick him up, whose position in the forward line would he take?

i was waiting for someone to make a thread on how good osborne was in the GF - thanks for that. he had a very underrated game in the GF and has had a terrific season. well done ossie.

geelong are a team of chokers. their whole club is just one big arrogant joke. geelong wont be able to even come close to hawthorn in 09. we still have young developing kids to come through while geelong has a team of old washed up chokers.

geelong fans bow down on your knees and worship the greatest club of all time.

i see u getting all emotional that the powerhouse that is the hawthorn fc won the premiership while your pitiful club stays losing.

lol at the geelong football club. wat a joke they are.

i totally agree. both on and off the field we are miles ahead of the other supposed big 4 clubs.

Re: mclaren lost the farm at the tab today the muppets tried their best to keep the cats in the game. abosultely pathetic umpiring performance.

ellis played an excellent game and just showed why he is rated so highly at hawthorn. once he puts on that extra 5-10kg he will be one of the best midfielders in the afl (if he isnt already)

Re: Even with a damaged thumb and guard, is Buddy still too good for Bomber to risk playing Scarlett expecting king buddy to dominate scarlett.

Why is Boyle getting a game over someone such as Thorp? Boyle has no match practive and is unlikely going to be fit enough to run out the game. Now would have been as perfect time as any to bring in Thorp or even dowler for a run. Does this say something about how highly the match committe think...

Lmao... he can't get a run for the firsts yet you are touting him as the next captain of hawthorn. I don't doubt his leadership qualities, but until he can perform at AFL level i think it is a bit early to be saying he will be the next captain.

They are built totally different. Hodge's probly got a good 12 kg on young Ellis. For that reason i don't think Ellis will be able to do some of the things hodgey does.

match review panel is a disgrace. should never have been sited.

Re: Walls and Sheahan are disgusting walls and sheahan are washed up pathetic losers. nearly everything that comes out of their mouthes is garbage. they just love hearing the sound of their own voices.

birchall is very important to the team structure. he tends to fly under the radar of other teams and opposition supporters a little bit, which is good. well done on his 50 games.